Betrayal, Forgiveness, and the Full Circle with Carmen Hunter

I’ve been waiting to have Carmen on since this podcast started! She helped 10x my coaching business, and I can’t wait to share what she has to say with my audience. Carmen Hunter is a certified health coach, trusted health coach mentor, and founder of the health coaching institute that’s transforming the industry, the Institute for Functional Health Coaching™.

She teaches health coaches how to break through their comfort zones, build up their confidence, implement a low-risk, investigative health coaching approach that allows them to work with any client who comes to them, and maximize their income and impact. 

In this vulnerable conversation, Carmen and I do not focus on her amazing Institute or coaching business, but on her growth and discoveries during one of the most traumatic times in her life. If you’ve been betrayed - or been the betrayer - this episode will bring compassion, understanding, support, and love to your situation. We’re all human beings, and this conversation is necessary for every one of us to hear.

Episode Highlights

2:55 - Carmen's core beliefs on coaching

4:30 - Freddie's biggest takeaway from his education

7:14 - The mental and physical impacts of discovering your partner's affair

14:14 - The worst thing about betrayal

18:52 - A major source of healing from betrayals

19:41 - Managing stress and betrayal on your body

22:06 - Trauma isn't what happens to you, it's how your body reacts

24:17 - Dealing with the shrapnel in loss

29:00 - Carmen's takeaway that shocks her clients

33:06 - Impacting generations through healing yourself

36:00 - Addressing the misconceptions of breakups on the children

39:05 - Does marriage work today?

45:43 - Have the courage to talk to your partner

48:13 - Developing a life you love

49:54 - The importance of offering grace to yourself

53:07 - Finding compassion for the betrayed and betrayer

55:47 - Those betrayed are not victims

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel and Carmen Hunter (00:00.046)
There are no guarantees because of a piece of paper, but the guarantee comes when you are solid in yourself, you understand what attachment you are, know what your attachment style is, learn why boundaries are really powerful, keep yourself grounded in who you are, know that you're enough. And if someone comes in to compliment that and understand that and work through your wound with you and then you trigger their wound and they work through theirs, that's a partnership. No piece of paper is gonna do that for you.

Freddie Kimmel and Carmen Hunter (00:29.1)
Welcome to the Beautifully Broken Podcast brought to you by AmpCoil. I'm your host, Freddie Kimmel, and on the show, we discuss the common thread survivors share after walking through the fire, the practitioners making a difference, and the treatment modalities that deliver healing back into the hands of the people who need it most. Witness the inspiration we gain by navigating the human experience with grace, humility, and a healthy dose of mistakes. Because part of being human is being beautifully broken.

Freddie Kimmel and Carmen Hunter (01:03.138)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the beautifully broken podcast. I am here with an amazing guest. I can't believe I went a whole year without getting her on the podcast because when I started this mission, I was like, Carmen, will you do my show? And this is one of my, I got to speak to Carmen Hunter. She's one of my mentors. She's the woman who took my coaching career and really, for lack of a better word, just 10x'd.

the volume and the quality and the sustainability of my business. I really owe that 110 % to the Institute of Functional Health Coaching to which she is the creator and the chair and it's her brainchild. So Carmen, welcome to the show. Thank you so much. I talk about you pretty much maybe three, four times a week. So I'm still talking about you and your successes and just what a sheer joy you are and our story about how you were like,

I'm about to be on stage, I have to go. I'm like, oh, okay. Oh my God, I love it. I'll frame that for everybody. Cause as you know, when you start searching something, like, let's say I'm looking at, you know, functional health training, coaching, 10Xing my income. Of course you get these ads pop up on your Facebook social media feed. So I see Carmen's ads start to pop up and I'm in the middle of a production of a Christmas Carol in Boston.

And I'm like about to run to stage and she answers like my Facebook message and I'm like, is this school legit? Are you real? Is this a scam? And she's like, listen, she's like, here's what I can tell you get. Here's what you won't get. Here's the deal. If you want to do this, you're in. If not, it's fine. Go explore something else. And I was like, that was I just knew from the resonance in your voice that it's like it was the place I was meant to be caught. Yes. Yes. I'm solid in my belief in what we do and what we offer.

It's so good. It's so good. So let's give the audience a little, let's give them a little backstory about the Institute for Functional Health Coaching because you truly are, you know, have such a unique voice and you've created a place for students to train. Go get in there. What are your core beliefs about coaching? Okay, so my core beliefs are that we need to, we need to stop overwhelming people and start underwhelming them by getting back to the basics of what it means to start a health journey.

Freddie Kimmel and Carmen Hunter (03:22.594)
So, you know, what I teach my coaches is, you know, it's great to be handed all of these complex, you know, things to help with all these chronic conditions and problems. But what's really happening is we've got two kinds of people that are looking for a standard American people and overwhelm symptom chasers. And it's my responsibility as the founder of the Institute for Functional Health Coaching to teach coaches how to store that wonderful knowledge that they've gotten from all the studying and their own health journey, store it in their mind.

But really remember who we're working with here. Let's start using language that people understand. Let's start meeting people where they are and get them to where they want to be based on their intuition and what they think is best for themselves. Way too often, I've seen people coming out of schools with an agenda of how to help people and it's a stamp and rinse and repeat process. Do this elimination diet, do this cleanser, this detox, and then you get back with me in a month. When in reality, that's not how people need to be helped. We need to get more connected. We need to communicate better. need to

Remember that we were all that person that started at one point without the knowledge that we have right now. And just take a deep breath before we sit down with people and just start to show up as real people helping real people. So that's the goal of the school. Yeah. Yeah. I'll offer this, you know, before we get into some of the fun stuff. When I used to meet people in Starbucks, you know, for a trade, they would like, I'll buy you a coffee. Tell me all you know about health and wellness. You know, I would sit there for like two, three hours.

giving these people like my 10 years of knowledge that I had learned because I felt I had no value or didn't have who am I to give someone, you know, up leveled information about health and wellness. And not only would I not get paid for like some of the energy exchange, but I would sit there and people would be so overwhelmed. They would walk away from that session. They wouldn't do any of it because

You know, I was going off on like all these high level detoxification pathways in the body that needed to be opened up and happen. And they just look at me like, uh, and there was no, there was no repeat business. was no coaching relationship. There was no session two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. And what, what Carmen, I think you taught me is that you've got to go simple and realize that you're meeting a person that's there just dipping their toe in the water. Maybe it's just.

Freddie Kimmel and Carmen Hunter (05:39.0)
they're reaching out for help, so meet them where they're at. Don't overwhelm. You're gonna structure something. This is like a, it's a long-term relationship you're wanting to get in. You don't give away everything on the first date or they're not coming back. So it was like this, and to get people to a place where they can make a decision, oftentimes there's a huge portion of the one hour, two hours that you're working that's about education.

It's about bringing understanding. It's not about information. often say this my biggest takeaway from your school is that we are drowning in information. We're starving for knowledge. Yeah, because so many somebody that can put it in practice and I think that if you can speak that way to a human being which it's very rare that you go find help that delivers that you're you've got a gold you've got a niche you've got you will not want for clients and that's one thing

after, I'm seriously like five months, I never wanted for a client. There was never a time when I was like, I need more money. Like it was like, my God, what am I gonna do to receive all these people and open up the doors? Yeah, yeah, I remember. And you were always my example. I'm like, you guys, do you see Freddie in here on Wednesdays at 1230 anymore? Is he popping into the student page very often? He's not because he's taken everything he's learned and he's out there, he's working with people. That's what we need to do, right?

I miss that student page. You have such a unique, wonderfully dynamic group of students that you attract to your school. And it really is. They're very, very special people. I'm sure you feel that way. do. I love them. They're like my little family. Yeah. Yeah. So Carmen, while we were while we were going through the process of training and then eventually I worked with the Institute of Functional Health Coaching, you know, we did some we just we made some magic together and the business side of things. And while while we were going through this process,

You were going through some really heavy personal things that you alluded to, but you never got into. You know, you would hint and say, when I'm ready, when you guys are ready to sit your ass down in a seat and receive, I'm gonna shock everybody. And there's some stuff I've got to talk about going on in my life. And I think you've moved through some of that. And now I think we're gonna get into that a little bit on this episode.

Freddie Kimmel and Carmen Hunter (07:57.388)
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get into it. Yeah, and and you're right. You're absolutely right. I I was being very protective of my child and Myself and my emotions that were wrapped up in one of the you know The top traumas that any any I dare say women but men go through this too But the majority of them are women what we experience Yeah, so I didn't handle a lot of things great during that time for my own personal self. I made a lot of mistakes

And I look back and I think, I should have done that different, right? But the one thing that I did do was I did not put my life out on social media because I was angry and hurt. It's one of the things that I like to talk, you know, I see women all the time and I say, pull that down, don't put that up there.

Freddie Kimmel and Carmen Hunter (09:08.844)
well known. was the health coach in town that talked about things that nobody else talked about. Members of the country club, know, nice house, nice neighborhood, smart kid, owner of my husband's

Freddie Kimmel and Carmen Hunter (09:28.642)
But behind the scenes, was very little, if any, at all. Lots of fighting, a dynamic dance that was going back and forth that was very toxic for the two of us until it exploded one night. And I always have to backtrack because it's been a whirl of time the last couple of years.