Binding Toxins, Bioactive Carbons and CellCore with Dr. Jay Davidson

This episode will help you understand how CellCore supports different Chronic disease states and biotoxin illnesses. My top three takeaways from the show are as follows! Number 1: Find out the environmental toxins that are more possibly harmful than heavy metals and why they have to be dealt with in a specific order to achieve balance. Number 2: Discover why reducing toxicity in the body yields an improvement in symptoms, especially with Lyme. Number 3: Learn the role parasitic infection can play in modern disease and how a simple herb can help restore our natural gut barrier function. Enjoy!

Episode Highlights

03:15 Why Dr Jay is in the field of Health, wellness, vitality and, detoxification

06:07 About Cellcore nutraceutical company

10:02 The problem that Cellcore is trying to solve in the world

14:37 How Dr Jay’s wife battled Lyme disease and got to the other side

29:42 How the body utilize some of the heavy metals

33:19 Why Cellcore uses specific acids and carbons

44:07 Carboxy product and how it helps to reduce mycotoxins and mould exposure

54:06 How to get started with health awareness in Cellcore and make the body have a steady ground to work on

59:00 The timeline for people with chronic diseases in Cellcare

01:01:07 Why parasites are needed to be addressed early on

01:10:20 The importance of using distilled water in detoxification

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (00:00.12)
Two years before my daughter was born, my wife wouldn't get on a plane because the anxiety was so heavy. It was so hard, like just thinking about flying. So we had all these warning signs, but it took a crisis for us to start changing paths. So I really feel like, you know, this is the path I'm supposed to be on. This is the path I'm to be on is to help the world with health, to really connect the dots and change the world.

Welcome to the Beautifully Broken Podcast. I'm your host, Freddie Kimmel, and on this show we explore the survivor's journey, practitioners making a difference, and the therapeutic treatments and transformational technology that allow the body to heal itself. Witness the inspiration we gain by navigating the human experience with grace, humility, and a healthy dose of mistakes, because part of being human is being beautifully broken.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (01:00.174)
Through my healing journey, I've become increasingly aware of the way environmental toxicity affects my body. In the past, I've tested high for mercury, lead, cadmium, glyphosate, and mycotoxins from mold. I've experienced this as fatigue, full body neuralgia, and brain fog. And after years of conventional treatments with limited results, I knew I needed to ask different questions if I wanted a different answer. Now around this time, I was introduced to the Ion Cleanse by AMD.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the beautifully broken podcast. We are here with a guest that has been on the community wish list for a long time, a long time. have Dr. Jay Davidson, and we're going to talk a little bit about Cellcore. Jay, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Freddie. It's great to be here. It's an honor on my side. So before we get into detoxification and bioactive carbons,

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (03:07.874)
Can I ask very candidly, why are you in the field of health and wellness and vitality and detoxification? What lights up in you that makes you commit to this for your time on planet earth? Well, my path was chosen for health. I was big into sports growing up, played everything. My mom thought, you know, if I wasn't going to be a professional sports player, I'd be a commentator. And she recently told me that, which I was really interesting. basically, as I

Eight breathe love sports, like watch played all the time. It's like all I did. had a injury of my knee and then it just repetitively, I actually dislocated my knee cap and repetitively did that to the point where I had to go in for surgery when I was 16. And when I went in for surgery, quite an experience, a knee immobilizer for six weeks. You know, I got out of that basically leg immobilizer, right? So you couldn't bend the knee. I got out of it and my.

quad muscle on my left leg was the same size as my calf muscle on my right leg. And it was like, Oh my gosh. Cause I didn't move, didn't move the leg for six weeks. They didn't want me to. And then I went to physical therapy. And when I was going through physical therapy, I was like, man, I want to be a physical therapist. the physical therapist actually told me, he's like, no, you don't want to be a PT, be something like a PA or do something else, but you don't want to be a PT. I'm like, okay. And that was coming into.

It was like coming into my senior years after baseball season so I could recover for the next season, my senior year. And I just never actually recovered from that until the last few years. I figured out a lot of stuff on my leg. Uh, and that's been amazing now, but it was definitely a lot of stress. So I went to college and was basically searching for what should I do in the health field? And I became very interested in like nutrition and vitamins and exercise and, know, just progressed. And then my mom one day said, Hey, why don't you

go visit my chiropractor when you're on break from college. I'm like, okay, sounds good. Literally sat down with him. He was talking nutrition about the body can heal itself. I'm like, this is what I want to do. And that was, that was that moment where I went to chiropractic school. That's incredible. I have the, you know, I've had the same experience with having touched on a couple of different practitioners where it was, is opposed to a disease management.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (05:30.21)
They're more talking about these building blocks, these essential building blocks of the body that can really yield better health. And the body has the innate capability to do this on its own. That stuff has always lit me up to that kind of line of questioning. so now today brings us to like 2021. Sounds so weird to say out loud, but here we're sitting and now you're working with a company called Cellcore, which is something I know a lot about. But again, you know, if we're in

Let's say we're on one of the long transfer escalators in Dallas airport, and you've got to tell me what Cellcore is. What would you say to me if I was a stranger? it's essentially a nutraceutical company. Nutraceutical sounds weird, so you could say supplement, but it is built on carbon technology. So the question always is like when you're taking a supplement, right? You're looking for the added benefit. Think in the world supplement, the word supplement comes from the fact you can't get something from food.

So you're having to supplement that. So I'm a really big fan of like quality food. That's your base. And then you're, you know, supplementing your diet with supplements. The big question is, is what's in the supplement that is protecting and delivering that what's helping that? Because once you swallow a capsule and it opens up in your stomach and the stomach acid tears apart the herbs and you lose 90 % of it and you only get 10 % absorption in the small intestine. Cause you know, our digestive tract broke a lot of it down. The question really comes into, well, what can I do to help protect

and deliver those products so that they're more effective. What can I do to take products that have more of what I would consider like plant energy, like real energy in them to get into the cell cells, to get out of the cells. And that's really what our focus is at Cellcore Biosciences is we have a team of scientists, a couple of different laboratories that basically take these fulvics and humic acids and we extract them. And we have very proprietary

places in the U S where we get them. So nobody else has it, but we, take the extracts or we take the full VIX and the humics and when we extract them in specific pieces, because full VIX acid is essentially the ultimate adaptogen. has more different configurations and abilities than anything on the planet. Like you hear about ashwagandha and rolly rhodiola and you know, this and that for the adrenal, you know, adaptogen it's like full VIX acid hands down is the thing. And so we extract and basically change

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (07:52.226)
things about it, depending on what the product's for. So we have like an iodine supplement that is for obviously giving the body iodine and iodide, you know, two different forms that the body needs, but iodine gets kicked out of the body from chlorine, bromine, fluorine, right? So just the stuff we're drinking in our water to touching our electronics with flame retardant on brominated, you know, whatever flame retardant on it, that's going to compete for iodine. And so we have carbon, carbon technology within the iodine product.

to actually help bind on to the halogens that are overtaking iodine to bind on to chlorine, fluorine, bromine, that's actually built into the product. not only does the carbon technology help to bind on to toxins that the body doesn't want, but also helps to deliver and protect the iodine and iodide through the stomach acid. Cause again, that's a very harsh environment. So that's really our focus is detoxification in proper protocol order that

You can take amazing stuff. If you go in the wrong order though, oftentimes you don't get the result. It's about putting the protocol in the proper order and taking effective stuff. And that's what changes lives, which has changed my life, changed my wife's life. We didn't really get into this at all, but my wife nearly died of Lyme disease twice. And that's what really shifted me from more of a chiropractic structural chiropractor to more of this functional medicine to dive in, to then connect the dots and then.

Dr. Todd and I, Dr. Todd Watson, myself formed Cellcore Biosciences and are teaching practitioners about this stuff to obviously focus on changing the world as what we're going through in the last year or two has been a little chaotic. in the end, if we just have our health, the world changes. The world changes. We become so capable as human beings, which man, the world really is calling for us to step up right now. I just, see that in every headline. like, man, we really need people at a hundred percent. Yep.

You know, we really need it. I would take that one step further, that question. And so we, now we like, have 30 more seconds to walk down this long transfer in Dallas airport. So what would you say, what's the problem that cell core is attempting to solve in the world? Toxicity. So as you, and this is not a popular opinion. So take some of this, the listener with a grain of salt, that this will be probably a little intentionally disruptive, but.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (10:14.356)
The idea that it is that bugs are out to kill us or that some virus is going to take us down, like it's silly. I mean, we have tons of bacteria in the body. have tons of viruses in our body. We have way more of those things than we do actually human cells. And to think that those are designed to take us down and we need to shift our focus into, it's about the toxin. It's about the chemicals. Right now, the EPA actually was looking yesterday as I was getting together a presentation

for a practitioner seminar that's coming up. And there's over 86,000 chemicals registered to the EPA alone. These are manmade chemicals currently right now in the United States. Hardly any of them have ever been tested on safety, let alone how they interact with each other. And there's no focus on chemicals and toxicity. And on the flip side, I've had people say to me, well, that's why we have a liver and kidneys. Like we don't need to detox. That's what our organs do.

But the problem is, is we're bombarded with it. And when we're overwhelmed with toxins, not just from food, drinking water, environment, I mean, basically the whole country of Canada seems to spray their forests with glyphosate. It's unbelievable. So the question is not, are you exposed to toxins? It's how much, and then what are we doing to actually detoxify? And that's the whole purpose of Cellcore is actually to detoxify the chemicals out of the body that are wreaking havoc and causing

of these microbes to change form to then become pathogenic. So it's not as if I caught a bug and all of a sudden I'm sick. It is you created an environment for the bugs that are already in our bodies to change form. And in science it's called pleomorphism. Change form, become pathogenic. And then what we would consider to be an infection, it's not just about then killing the bug. It's about removing the source of why those bugs actually mutated and pleomorphized in the first place.

And as we focus on that, that's where true health really lies. That's what our focus is about. That's beautiful. You know, that resonates with me because it's something I firsthand walked through. And I talk about this a lot on the podcast. And if anybody hears this episode new, know, essentially Lyme disease to metastatic cancer to five or six surgeries, heavy metal toxicity, Epstein-Barr, you know, all the viral titers in the world and resulting in severe, severe chronic fatigue and full body myalgia and

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (12:37.886)
when I started to, what was offered me through allopathic was opioids, you know, that was really painkillers and the pain was so actually intensified by some of those medications and domethicine, you know, things to shut down the immune system, like hydroxychloroquine. But what I found through functional medicine was looking at these incredibly high levels of heavy metal, mercury, lead, all my minerals were off as far as the balancing in my body.

And it was like, had this perfect Petri dish for these things to exist. And when I started to do things that make my body sweat more or long periods of fasting or doing specific, we'll talk about the word binders in a minute, binding certain toxins out of my body, I started to feel better. And now I have more energy than anybody I know. Now I don't take any painkillers.

not any prescription medications for any of the things that I mentioned. It's all been through these life-giving supplements and some energetic tools as well. talk about pulse, electromagnetic field and light, but really leaning into a natural lifestyle. I've, again, I always say I'm not a doctor, I'm not a scientist. It's something I've lived and I felt extreme benefit. I'm so, I want to yell it from the rooftops. When people come in and they

message me on social media or the podcast. these people, they send you these stories of them being bedridden for five, six years. And it's usually when they find a company like Cellcore or they do some intervention that changes their life and they become these evangelists too. I really want to get into the weeds around the whys and the hows of this, like you said, nutraceutical line and why you guys are having

success before we do that. I would love to just hear the, just a little heartfelt moment about what happened with your wife and that experience with Lyme disease. Because, you know, again, it's like something I never remember being bitten by a tick. I just know that's something along my road of severe dysfunction that I found in my blood work from sending my blood away to California in this fancy lab. But I'd love to hear what happened and how she got to the other side. Yeah. It's a, guess that's probably fitting with your

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (14:59.838)
podcast title, huh? Beautifully broken. A little beautifully broken. So my wife, we met in undergrad, already decided I wanted to go to chiropractic school. She decided she wanted to, and she was actually going to go to a different school and decided the day before she dropped out of that school and we went to the same school. So that's kind of solidified our relationship. And so we actually went to school together. So my wife's also got her doctorate of chiropractic and we were in practice doing healthy, what we viewed as healthy things, you know,

Vitamix and juicing and you know, what we thought was detoxing and exercise. And we taught this stuff to our patients at the time in our clinic in Wisconsin, where we practiced and my daughter was born in 2012, actually on my wife's birthday. They're both fourth of July babies on my wife's 30th birthday. She was born. And I remember leading up to that in the chiropractic office, my wife telling our staff, just give me a week and I'll be back. Cause we're like, we have no problem with working hard.

And basically the labor was tough, natural birth, but it was like 25 hours in a no painkiller. So my wife was like an absolute champion, but then her body just didn't recover. And after, two months, her body was pretty much shutting down to the point where she couldn't, she stopped producing milk. And we started going on Weston a price homemaking our formula, if you will, goat milk and all this concoction stuff.

And as soon as we did, what was interesting is our daughter immediately stopped crying and she would, mean, she was a crier and it was like adjusting her and just trying to do all the natural things that we knew to let the body express itself. But it was like, my wife was going through so much pain. I'm sure that was just passing on chemically through the milk and just causing disruption in my, in my wife or my daughter's body. And, as my wife's body shut down, she became allergic to everything. So even,

piece of lettuce would swell her throat up. she stopped eating basically. She just drank water. And at the time, so this is back in 2012. So quite a while ago before the whole fasting thing caught caught, would say more mainstream, but we heard about bone broth, traditional bone broth. is before the protein was out and started making that. And she basically water fast or bone broth fast, just water and bone broth for 17 days. She dropped a lot of weight. She dropped.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (17:22.115)
pretty much like 40 pounds in that time period, which I would not recommend, but her body was shutting down. And what happened is it dropped inflammation a tremendous amount. Then as we got feet underneath and there was just many nights, it's hard for me to go back to this place because I like it. It brings me such a, like a emotional place, but I remember laying next to her in, our house in Wisconsin, just not wanting to go to bed. Cause I didn't know if she'd be alive when I woke up in the morning. Like it was that, it was just that it was that.

monumental and it was thankfully, right. Recovered from this acute. Then we were pretty much into this chronic, like our body just didn't seem to be functioning, not doing well. We have this newborn brand new parents, really busy practice. I'm hardly home. Uh, and it was a challenging time and basically figured out it was a Lyme flare up that was triggered by toxins and what we thought at the time, heavy metals, we did some heavy metal detoxing and seemed to really make a big difference a lot more than actually.

going after Lyme. As I look at it now, I think there's actually a lot of other toxins that are more important than heavy metals. Heavy metals are kind of like the Hollywood get all the attention, but they're really not the main ones that move the needle on detoxing. But basically through this challenge in her life coming back, was like, she kind of kept rising up and then our patients in our clinic are like, what, is she doing? Cause they saw where she was and she disappeared. And as she was coming back to life, then it was,

Like, my friend's going through the same thing. Can you help them? And then I started basically coaching people on what we were doing with my wife, you know, more of a functional medicine side. And then it just got so busy that it was like, okay, I've got this practice and you know, this more functional medicine coaching. So we sold the practice, went full-time into that coaching side. So I worked with Chronic Lyme cases for quite a few years before starting the supplement company with Dr. Watts. And that's how that's, I mean, that's a big portion. Like what motivates me is.

getting to the optimal level. know that my wife, she went from like 5 % function to what feel like 100, but it was probably only 60. And what we've seen is that just the lights just keep coming on and on and on. And it's like every time people that know her, friends and family see her, it's like, my gosh, what are you doing? It's like, she's more alive now than the world. for me to have, so my daughter's nine years old now. So this is nine years, a over nine years ago that all this went down.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (19:47.617)
And we have warning signs. Two years before my daughter was born, my wife wouldn't get on a plane because the anxiety was so heavy. It was so hard, like just thinking about flying. So we had all these warning signs, but it took a crisis for us to start changing path. So I really feel like, you know, this is the path I'm supposed to be on. This is the path I'm to be on is to help the world with health, to really connect the dots and change the world. Well, I'd be listening to you speak your truth in the story. I think.

What comes up for me is what an incredible asset to have the empathy that a caretaker would go through when you're working with patients. Because I know that was one thing, not in an evil way, but sometimes I'm like, I wish the doctor, whatever, detached and aloof or just very compartmentalized. And it's like, I wish I could gift you how I feel in my body for 24 hours. And just because you wouldn't speak to me this way. It was just like,

man, I wish you knew the severity because I feel, in my experience, it feels like I'm worried I'm not going to make it home. Your brain feels so confused or lost or the fatigue is like... I'm like 28 years old. I shouldn't feel like there is a thousand pound weight on my back trying to walk to the subway. there's no way you can explain the experience until you've been through it or seen it firsthand. that...

And what an, you're like the perfect person to be on this team for cell core, just from your life experience. So not, and I don't, you know, I don't want to, I'm not glad you went through that, but it really is, you know, I am happy that you're using it for good. We're grateful of all of this. Cause if it wasn't for this experience or these experiences, we wouldn't be doing or where we're at or be to the level of health and happiness.

Like we would never have achieved that. It oftentimes takes a crisis. And when you're going to the crisis, right. It never feels awesome. But when you come out and you actually look back and to get to an appreciation and gratitude for it, it's, it's such a beautiful place to be. It's incredible. we can now, now we can pivot to something light. Now we can pivot to like, you know, and you said you're like, one thing that was really interesting to me, said the metals in the body are like,

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (22:08.953)
you know, the Hollywood stars of chronic illness. Like we all want to look to mercury toxicity and lead and cadmium. And, you said, you know, there's, there's greater offenders out there. Let's visit that ideology for a second. Yeah. So this again, not a popular topic because people love to talk about heavy metal toxicity, but even just the first thing of all heavy metals are toxic is a mistake. So there's different oxidative states of metals.

Right? Heavy metal, like iron is a heavy metal in the body. We need it. We basically need the periodic table of elements in our body, obviously to different degrees. That's why they were all created. There is a purpose to them. Now, clearly there's toxic forms, inorganic, free-floating, heavy metals that are very dangerous and damaging. But when you actually look at those people that can't recover from health, heavy metal detoxification isn't the game changer. It is the other chemicals. So one of the chemicals

that's very important to deal with. And it usually comes from drinking water. And again, this is going to be a little, I'll get arrows thrown at me as well too, but unless you're drinking distilled water, you're probably drinking radioactive elements in your water. Radioactive elements are cesium, uranium, thorium. The one big one is radium. Just look up radium built in Wisconsin and you'll be like, huh, there's Lyme disease very prevalent in this area. The same area where you're drinking massive amounts of radium in your body.

And so if you actually look at like lime and what triggers it, lime is primarily driven, I believe, by toxins, glyphosate, which is, you know, active ingredient of Roundup, essentially. Radioactive elements are big too. So radioactive elements, if you were to take, if you have a campfire and you're to take a coal out of the campfire and you were to swallow it, that's basically the effects of radioactive elements. So radioactive elements is, it is a element that's basically giving off energy.

that's damaging your DNA and damaging your mitochondria inside the body. So it's basically like taking a hot ashen and that's continuing to burn inside the body until you remove it. And some radioactive elements have half-lives of years, hundred years, thousands of years. unless you're actually, and these are science estimates, so you can obviously get a little picky on, we don't know the exact amount. Well, no, but if they hang around,

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (24:29.207)
You know, if their half life is a hundred years, that means if you were to swallow a hundred milligrams of a radioactive element in a hundred years, you're going to have 50 milligrams still in your body. So that's what half life means. So we look at these half lives. They're really long, which means they're continually causing damage. so for instance, lead heavy metal gets attention for osteoporosis, you know, because lead competes for calcium in the bone, right? There's some similarities. Well, the reason why is

So lead is more of an effect. It's not the actual cause. So if I'm drinking water that has radium in it, radium is a bone seeking radioactive element that'll then compete with calcium, kick it off and it'll go into your bone. Well, if I'm going to go to the doctor, I'm not going to get x-ray done. What are they generally, if they want to do an x-ray, let's say of my chest, they're going to generally shield other areas. What are, what's on that shield? What's the shield made out of Freddie?

lead. So the question is, is, well, why do they use lead? It's not that if lead is like when radiation gets shot out of an x-ray machine, that lead reflects and doesn't get absorbed from in the body. It's the lead's actually absorbing the radiation. So when you shoot a lead vest with an x-ray, the lead's actually absorbing that. So when people heavy metal detox and they've done a hundred EDTA chelation, know, IV chelations, and they're like, I just can't get rid of lead.

It's because lead is an effect. It's not the actual cause of your health issue. The reason why you have lead toxicity oftentimes is that you have high amounts of radium in the body. So the lead is going to go to the area where the radium is because it's trying to absorb that radioactive energy that's being given off. And so you can actually make somebody worse in my mind, trying to detox lead. If you're not actually getting to the radium that's underlying it. And now we associate lead, right? Osteoporosis, cause it's in the bone.

But the main culprit of what's causing the damage in the first place is actually the radioactive element in the bone called the radium. And then that's what's suppressing the immune system. And if your immune system suppressed, guess what you can have? You can get Lyme and all kinds of other co-infections. And that's the interesting thing is when somebody has Lyme disease, they don't just have Borrelia bordorferi. They have Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella, Ehrlichia, Mycoplasma, know, EBV and Blastocystis hominis, H. pylori, right? The list goes on. It is not.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (26:55.735)
I have a bug issue. is you, your immune system compromised because of a toxin that's in the body. And that kind of goes back to all bugs, pleomorph. So stop me if this is too far, but let's look at the microbiome for instance. If I am drinking chemicals, I have good bugs in my body that's trying to help me digest. As soon as I'm exposed to a chemical, depending on that chemical, certain strains of bugs or a strain of bug will change form. It'll pleomorph into a path, a lot of pathogenic form.

to try to bio degrade the poison. Yes. If I'm continually exposed to that poison, let's look at C. diff for instance, if I'm continually exposed to that poison, the bugs that are naturally harmonious commensal, they're all fine in my body. They're going to continually be pleomorphic and changing form into this pathogenic form because it's trying to bio degrade the poison. So if.

All we focus on is, my gosh, you have C. diff, take this antibiotic. Well, it's like, wait a minute, C. diff is there because of a poison or a toxin and it's changing form. So how does taking another poison antibiotic, anti-life is really what that means. How does taking another poison to try to kill the bugs that are caused from another poison make any sense? And granted there's times where you have a raging infection and you need to bring it down. I'm not saying not to address it.

But the focus is get to the underlying toxins and radioactive elements are a massive form of chemicals within the body. Actually more of the industrial and environmental toxins are a lot more prevalent and more damaging than heavy metals as well too. So that could be like byproducts of petroleum industry. That could be byproducts of plastics. That could be the anti-stick chemicals on

pans that leach into our environment and we're exposed to or we cook with, right? All those things. And then the other, another really big one is the toxin that the mold colonies produced called a mycotoxin. Those are horribly damaging. So when somebody talks about heavy metals, I'm like, okay, you know, that's the Hollywood, but let's actually talk about the real things that are causing problems in people's body because we know clinically when you remove those real things,

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (29:13.057)
Magically, you don't have to address heavy metals like we're we've all been taught with the DMSA, the DMPS, EDTA, all these chelation old school type forms that are supposed to target that. So yeah, it's fascinating. I had somebody explain it to me like this one time we were talking about toxicity, have a lot of experts on the show on toxicity. And you know, there's been a consensus that the metals are almost like these junk car parts that the body is like, well, I can sort of use that.

You know, I can sort of bring that into a bone or I can sort of use this, you know, mercury sort of will fit in a receptor site that magnesium might use. And so the body's doing the best it can with what's available, but there's other things that are creating these disruptions, like you're saying upstream that have a greater effect on total body health. Does that sound possible, that theory? Yeah. So it's when you look at

elements. So there's a lot of research on fulvic acid, for instance, being able to change an oxidative state. let's say you have a, so all minerals are metals, and then there's certain metals that are heavy. So all minerals, right? I don't want metals, but I want minerals. Well, they're actually the same thing. So just for clarification. And then all minerals or metals will actually deplete oxygen.

which is why it's important if you're going to take minerals that the product's actually saturated in oxygen, otherwise it'll take oxygen from the body. That's just chemistry. So as we look at different minerals or metals, there's research that shows that fulvic acid can actually change the oxidative state. in just simple terms, if I have iron and there's an oxidative state called two plus or minus two or zero, right? And it's basically orbital shell chemistry stuff.

that there's certain forms that the body needs and there's certain forms of the body doesn't need and that are, you know, more dangerous to the body, for instance. Well, the fulvic acid can actually change the oxidative state of elements. So it can transmutate or it can trans configure them. It's also been shown in literature that it can actually change an element. And this is the craziest thing. You can change a mineral or a metal element to a different one. That's transmutation. So the answer,

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (31:36.875)
Isn't always, I have to clear out this mineral or metal if you're, if it's in the wrong form or it's an excess, sometimes it's just changing it to the form that's usable or changing it to changing the form of what it needs. mean, there's literature back a long time ago where they don't feed. They specifically didn't feed the chickens any calcium at all. And yet there's tons of calcium coming out in the eggshell and they're like,

The chicken itself has to be able to transmutate or transmutate the actual elements into other elements. so the human body is amazing. The human body is amazing. So is there junk car parts like in your analogy that the body might be able to use? Yeah, probably. Cause it could probably change the form of a American, probably alter them to some degree. Obviously there's things in literature, like I mentioned fulvic acid that are primary contributors of being able to help that, which I mean, that's in soil.

So if you're gardening and you, you know, you don't scrub all every little inch of the dirt off and you're consuming food that's clean. mean, you could just be naturally getting that in your diet too. Incredible. if we, if we kind of pivot back to this, we've mentioned this a couple, we've said the, the fulvic and the humic acids, you know, have these incredible properties. And I know this because I take cell core, but it seems like most of the products in this line of nutraceuticals.

includes very... If I looked at the labels... This made me laugh the other day. If I looked at the labels and I have a total cupboard full of Cellcore things, there's a lot of similar ingredients in the different products. So can you speak to why we're using these specific acids and carbons and many of the products in the Cellcore line? Yeah. So if you look at the ingredients, you'll see extracts of folic acid, extracts of humic acid, polysaccharide...

polysaccharides, polyelectrolytes and everything. And it's like, oh, it's just the same stuff. Well, no, it's, it's depending on what part we're actually extracting. So when you actually get into like fulvic acid and somebody buys like, Oh, I'm going to buy some fulvic acid. Well, fulvic acid is naturally inside of humic acid. So humic acid is like this big molecule fulvic is in the humic acid. If you do not actually cleave or separate the fulvic acid from the humic acid, your body can't utilize the fulvic acid in that humic acid supplement.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (33:57.751)
So it's really important that if you're taking a fulvic acid and humic acid, that they are separated and then brought back in together in the supplement. Otherwise, if it's humic acid with fulvic acid inside, the fulvic will never be utilized. And why this is important is the humic acid is what's considered a long chain carbon that stays in the digestive tract that stays in the gut. So when you take it, that's kind of like a charcoal or a clay, you know, activated carbon or activated charcoal, clay. It's just long chain carbons. It just stays in the gut.

If you have a massive leaky gut, maybe a little bit, it's going to cross the barrier, but it's not going to go anywhere because it's too big, too big of a molecule. Fulvic acid is small and medium chain carbons. And what you got to know is it's smaller in size than what stays in the gut. So that actually can cross the gut barrier, go into the tissues, go into the cells, and even the small chain carbons can go across the blood brain barrier. Now, what's important with a product when you're looking at it is it's not just the size that matters. The smaller, the farther it's going to penetrate in the body.

Like bar none, you know, they do this with zeolites, look at the Petri dish, put some, you know, aluminum or mercury, put a drop of zeolite on it. You're like, Oh, look at it, bound it. But the question is, is how do we know just because it's small in size, how do we know that it's actually getting into the cell? It needs energy. It needs life. And so when you're looking at activated charcoal or clay, coming back to the, the campfire kind of building on that example, if you go camping and you build a campfire, you're camping there for a few nights, you're burning logs.

You take a log and you, you know, it catches on fire. That's burning the energy. The fire is the energy. So it's expending energy. What you have left is you have the ashes sitting there. The ashes are in a state that's not life-giving. And what do I mean by that? That means if you come back to that campsite a year later, you'll see there's weeds and grass and trees. Everything's growing except for where that ash is. There's no life there. Like nothing's growing there. It doesn't support life.

Well, I put that in a capsule and I sell it and I say, is activated charcoal or activated carbon. It's in more technical terms, it's not been activated. It's actually been spent. So it's actually a spent carbon. When we say spent, that means the energy is gone. When we're looking at humics and fulvics, these are unspent carbons. And what that means is it still has energy in them. And we can measure energy many ways. A couple of them that we make public is pH and also what's called electrical conductivity.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (36:21.397)
And so when you're looking at the ash of a charcoal, like a carbonized bamboo or activated charcoal from bamboo, it can be a pH of 10 or 11. That means there's no energy left. pH is a measurement of energy. And this is going to be a little disruptive as well, but just hang with me. The lower the pH number, which stands for potential of hydrogen, that's measured in millivolts. The lower the number, like a pH of one, two, three,

higher the potential energy, the higher the number, the more alkaline 10, 11, 12, there's no potential energy left basically. And it's a logarithmic scale. if I go from a pH of seven to six, that's 10 times more energy and pH of six. If I go to a pH of seven to five, that's actually a hundred times more. So we have logarithmic. So when we're looking at the carbons, we're extracting specific pieces for specific products.

with specific P H's. for instance, we have a probiotic formula. We actually ran out of it and it's the new batch is coming out soon and it's actually going to have a new name. It's going to be called CT biotic. And you can talk with your practitioner or whatever that works with it to help you out when it's out. But this, probiotic for instance, has 10 different strains of probiotics. Well, what's interesting is when we're doing our research on probiotics, cause we're not a probiotic company. Like I never saw benefits of probiotics.

But what we realized was that there are certain chemicals that our binders were not removing. And it's like, well, do we have to change the, like we know have all these different types of binders, like how is it not removing it? And what we realized is that we actually needed certain types of bacteria to biodegrade these poisons. And it was like, oh, okay. Well, how do we, how do we get the most effectiveness of these probiotics? We had to identify what strains, then we realized there's actually four different pH ranges in these different strains.

which means that this is a whole weird environment that we need to support in order to have this combination. So we actually have four different blends of our carbon technology, these extracts, you will, polysaccharides, extracts of fulvic, humic, polysaccharides, polyelectrolytes in there and some other carbons. We have four different blends with different pHs to support the different strains of bacteria. And even we have some spores in there as well too, so they can get through the stomach gas and get through the bile to detox. So it is

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (38:48.077)
from a compliance regulatory FDA. Basically, there's not much recognized other than like fulvic acid and humic acid, polyelectrolytes and polysaccharides. So that's why you'll see that pretty much on the label. And if we were to try to label them a little bit more chemically, if you will, like the actual chemical structure, they're going to seem too synthetic and they're going to fall a little bit more in that pharmaceutical prescription when these are just, these are natural products. There's nothing synthetic about them. We're extracting them.

modifying and then combining with herbs or depending on what the product is. So that's why the labels are a little generic because that's kind of what the FDA and compliance wants. just know, yeah, every product is probably a little tweak or different or vastly different than other ones. Hi friends. I hope you're loving the show. Let's take a quick break to hear a word from our sponsors.

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Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (41:10.101)
which again, I think it's the most powerful place that right now in this world that we can speak from in the world of wellness is experience. Cause nobody can really question your experience. And I'm going to keep going back to that for any, again, controversial, not controversial. You've, you've got to go, you got to go look at the human being, look at the terrain, look at how people are showing up, look at their ability to connect words, energy levels, dynamic states of being.

You know, I, it's really interesting because I'm kind of straddled the chronic illness world, but also like the bio, the biohacking world. And there's so much focus on optimization or it's like adding like these things to boost energy and to boost cellular function and voltage. But it's like the, chronic illness community, really, there's so many nuggets there that the biohackers could really flourish from that they're missing in my opinion.

I want to go back to, you know, one thing I, I, didn't really talk about, but in that, like my little timeline, I had a massive mold exposure. I bought an apartment where when it rained in, right going into the Lincoln tunnel into New York, this is after all the health shenanigans I, I went through when I would step on the floor after it rained, there would be like squish, squish, squish. The water would, the floor was squished. So, and you know, I was like, it was my first home I ever bought. had put new brand new wood floors. So having guys come in and repair the floors and

We're kind of looking for a leak or whatever. Eventually, I'm standing there one day, they opened up the wall and it was floor to ceiling like a cake. Not because there's mold on the stuff, there was a cake in the wall. I have great pictures of this. I need to post them on my Instagram one day. And it sent me into such a mental tizzy, I would have thought I had Alzheimer's for a little bit. It was incredible. a lot of my time over the last two years, two and a half years have been...

working with mycotoxins and mold and trying to get some of those levels down on my system. I've done a lot of work, done all the foot baths, done a lot of frequency. And I came across a product called Carboxy that I had met that worked with the integrative wellness in Jersey, in Belmar, New Jersey, Dr. Nick and Dr. Nicole. And they said, you got to try this Carboxy. They muscle tested me. They're like, go slow. And I was like, dude, I've been binding for like...

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (43:27.666)
whatever, 15 years, I'm good. So I like take a half a scoop of this thing. I was like, my, I was like, it was like, I was walking through molasses in my room. was like, I'm so tired. And like, you know, I could literally feel like the stuff being leached out of my body. Anyway, so I started with just licking the end of a knife and touching that in carboxy and putting that in a cup of water. was still having a reaction in my body. So

It's been over time and now I can tolerate it and I'm doing this. But can you talk a little bit about this product carboxy and mold and how this one's very unique and different? tend to... I'm really excited about where this is going. I'm not sure what's happening, but I can tolerate almost a full scoop twice a day. So I imagine something good is going to happen at some point. Yeah. So reactions happen just when there's toxins there.

and it's binding onto them. It's just that that's why we prefer slow and low because this is unlike other stuff. When you look at other binders out on the market, like for instance, there's a multi-level marketing company in Canada, Wisdom Powder, it's got pH a little over nine. There's the carbonized bamboo I mentioned, actually a little over 10 pH. So pretty much all binders that you've taken before, right, there are pH nine, 10, roughly. Let's just have that. Well, if you're looking at Carboxy,

or you're actually looking at like biotoxin binder, which has some carboxy in it, but carboxy is like the purified just bam, you know, you don't want to spill that on your carpet because it is like darker than ink type of binder. It is a pH more around that five or six range. So if we just, let's just say it's a pH of six, for instance, and we're comparing it to a pH of 10. So 10 to nine is one time. So it's 10.

nine to eight is a hundred, eight to seven is a thousand, seven to six is 10,000. So that's 10,000 times more energy potential. Just if we're looking at the pH, for instance, in that product. And what we know is that the lower, according to the literature, the lower the pH, the better it is of actually binding on to chemicals. And specifically, one of them is actually heavy metals, as you talked about before. So actually being an effective heavy metal binder, you want a lower pH.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (45:47.794)
And so that's just looking at one of the aspects. we, all the carbons are saturated in oxygen. Same thing like with our mineral products, actually saturate them in oxygen. So they're never going to steal oxygen away. And one of the differences, like if you're looking at, well, actually, no, let me come back to mold. So basically on a mold side of things, you can run a lab test, real-time labs, Great Plains labs or Vibrant America. I real-time when I went through my

Yep. And you'll see, you'll see the, the, different mycotoxins, right? We can just basically taking biotoxin binder, carboxy, take some CT minerals, and then some things to support your mitochondria and support drainage. Your pre and post, you'll have mycotoxins, whatever they are, and all of them will disappear on followups. The one that we found issues with of like the levels went down, but they didn't disappear was Ochratoxin A.

So if you have that on your test at all, and what we figured out with that is it's actually the probiotic, it's the bacteria along with binders that'll actually help to remove that toxin. And again, bacteria biodegrade poison. we can just, you you run a test, here's your micro toxins. You take the cell core binders and the CT minerals because it's such high in energy. So CT minerals, for instance, has right now through cell core, the electrical conductivity is like,

16,000. And basically, if you were to look at some of the higher supplements on the market for electrical conductivity, one of the highest that we've seen that's not Cellcore has been Zach Bush's Restore, or it's called IonBiome now or something like that. IonBiome. Yeah. And that's got a pH of 9 or 10. But that electrical conductivity is more like 3,000. So that's high for a supplement. Well, the CT Minerals is up

around actually think the most recent one that came out of the lab was just over 16,000 for electrical conductivity. It's micro Siemens per centimeter, I think is the actual like measurement at the end of it, but, or delineation, but 16,000. just understand like these molecules, you put them on a microscope and they're vibrating, like they're energized. it's that energy that allows to displace toxins that are normally not able to be removed, right? These toxins are embedded into our membranes.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (48:14.208)
they're causing inflammation and scarring and damage and inflaming and dysfunction within the cell. Well, we have enough energy to actually not only bind onto it, but then there's the reason that there's polysaccharides in the carbons is because it helps to repair and rebuild the damaged tissue, which is why you don't have to cycle on and off. don't like the, if you remember the old school like DMSA do three or four days on.

then you'd have to give yourself like seven, maybe even 10 days break to try to recover. Cause the stuff just, you know, damn it. Yeah. It inflamed you so bad. Well, the, the carbon technology actually has the reparative mechanism in the product. it's not only binding and it's actually a stronger bond than the DMSA and EDTAs and DMPs because it's a covalent bond. And the easiest way to explain this is if I'm there's ionic bonding and there's covalent from a science standpoint, ionic is

It's basically, if you have two atoms come together, the one atom is going to steal the electrons. So it's going to have both. And it's basically like, I'm holding hands. So I'm holding hands, you we're connected. But if somebody starts pulling like, you know, the hands aren't going to hold that much. Covalent bond is you're actually sharing electrons. So instead of the bully in your, school, stealing your lunch money, it's like, no, we're going to share.

and sharing is more like interlocking the elbows. like when somebody walks down the, you know, aisle of a wedding, right? Where they interlock the elbows and that's a lot stronger bond. once, once a covalent bond is formed, it's not letting go. When an ionic bond is formed, it's going to let go, which is why there was such a big focus of half-life and having to, I got to take DMSA every three to four hours, you know, depending on if you're a fast metabolizer or not, because it's binding on, but letting go, binding on, but letting go because it's ionic. Well, once you're.

bind on to it covalently. That is the strongest bond. That's actually what we'd consider in science, chelated, chelation or a chelated bond. But FDA compliance, no nutraceutical company can say that a product chelates because that term, even from a science standpoint, covalent means chelate, but from an FDA, chelate has to be a drug. So no nutraceutical could say chelation or it's chelating, if you will.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (50:34.186)
But if you just understand that fulvic acid has a covalent bond, then you realize, that's the strongest in science. So once it binds onto it, it's not going to let it go. And for those people that are used to the heavy metal detox world of, what's the half life, right? Like half life of DMPS, Merck out back in the day, called Merck out. I don't know if it still exists in that, but DMPS is eight hours when it's in the body. DMSA is like four, roughly.

Well, the carbon technology, the binders like carboxy, instance, or biotoxin binder that I mentioned, that's 12 to 18 hours. So even if you wanted to, you don't have to follow it because it's covalent. It's not letting go like the whole ionic binding is, but even if you wanted to follow it, then it's twice a day, you know, and not like having to set your alarm and wake up in the middle of the night. Cause I did that for years. And then I figured out, I've got parasites. And it's like, parent, I figured this out after doing a couple of years of DMSA chelation way back.

long time ago. This is like 2000. Well, back in 2008, I actually had a really bad reaction to DMPS. So I come from the detox world. But having to set your alarm and wake up in the middle of the night. And if you just do it right, hopefully just once, otherwise maybe a couple of times you'll have to wake up. Two, then figuring out I had parasites. Parasites actually store heavy metals. So unless you cleanse parasites first, you're not going to be able to get to the toxins that are stored within the parasites. And this again comes back to...

Order matters. Open up your drainage, support your mitochondria, cleanse parasites out of the gut, then cleanse them out of the body systemically, because there can be them in the muscle bellies and all over the body. Then focus on detoxifying because you have to basically peel back the protective mechanisms of these different bugs and the different places that these toxins are stored in order to actually truly get to them. That's why order matters and use stuff that works.

Yeah, I love that the company is so clear about that, especially when we get into... I have a rep that I work with, this incredible Jodi. She's so knowledgeable. And she always... What I love that you guys supply are these wonderful infographics that shows this order of operation, why you'd want to start with the organs of drainage first. And then near the top of the pyramid, we're starting to get into the intracellular or where different levels of pathogens are existing. I'm currently in...

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (52:55.718)
I'm in level three, phase three, think of comprehensive. I'm just following along and I'm trying to give each phase enough time. I'm really working with my personality trait of a manifest generator, Uber type A, don't want to race through everything. But I'm giving it time and I'm going slow. finding it does each new phase. It takes me a little while to build up and tolerate. And one thing I wanted to

I want to ask, so you guys have this protocol and I'm sure you have people from, it's not about working with disease. It's like we say, it's about working with the body and making the body have this like the base of the pyramid to be able to have a ground, steady ground to stand on. If we're looking at people like starting Cellcore, what would you say to the average person? Like, do I need to have...

advanced Lyme disease to use Cellcore? Do I need to have MS? Do I need to have like these crazy high level conditions or like where would the app, what would you tell your neighbors that are not into health and wellness? Like where would they get started? I always meet him where they're at. So I have a neighbor. He's in the compliance crypto world. He's an engineer type and doesn't believe in anything like really natural. And he got his foot ran over by a car, but,

the, what was interesting, he didn't like break any bones is the car tire like spun out on top of his foot and he had, I think it was barefoot. So it ripped like the skin off the top and he, and he's like, it's not healing. It's not healing. I'm like, here, take this. And I gave him a bottle of hydroxygen. It's just a little like one ounce bottle. And he just started putting it on and he's like, what is this voodoo? I can literally see the skin growing. Nothing was letting the skin grow. I'm like, okay. So I just met him where he's at. Right. And, and then.

He was doing a challenge. He made a bet with some friends on that, you know, can't fast for a certain amount of time. And I was like, and there was some weight loss attached to it. So was like, here, why don't you take some parasite cleansers while you're doing this to kind of expedite it. So I just, I met him where, where he's at. I think an easy place to start is always work. You know, Selcor is a practitioner brand. The stuff works. It's strong. So it's working with somebody that knows what they're doing. Always super beneficial, first of all.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (55:18.71)
So I don't want to trump anything that your practitioner is saying, but always a good place to start is just to open up drainage pathways is to support mitochondria. But if somebody's not ready for, I don't want to do a whole protocol. Okay. Well then do a full moon kit where the next full moon take either three, five or seven days and take some parasite cleansers and a binder like biotoxin binder with some of the para formulas and see what happens. Have your own experience like our, so how cell core was formed.

I never wanted a supplement company, which is really funny. I was speaking on stage at a conference on actually Lyme disease and hormones. And then some guy in the audience asked the question. It's pretty in-depth biochemistry. like, Oh, I don't know. And then he asked another one. I'm like, man, this guy's either a jerk or he's really smart. And after the, after I got done, I came off stage. He came up and we started chatting. realized, Oh no, he's big heart. He's just really smart. So we went to dinner. He showed me pictures of stuff that people

that his clients like got out of them. And I mean, that's like these critters and just snake looking things and all these, you know, spaghetti worms and things. like, what is that? And he's like, Oh, it's mimosa pudica seed. I have it shipped in from India and I bottle it, you know, I have it bottled myself. Let me send you some. And this is before cell core biosciences existed. And within 17 days, my stomach's rolling. I'm like, gosh, this doesn't feel right.

And I go to the bathroom and it was just such a relief. looked down and there's these two, they're dead, but these two long worms are like foot long, scaris lumbar cord, he's hanging out of me. And I was like, Oh my gosh. I yelled at my wife to come look. My daughter, my daughter was, yeah. Well, we were, we were at a hotel room at a conference. I wasn't speaking, but, and my daughter at the time comes running over. She was only three, you know, she looks, looks down, looks up. like, dad, why do you have string hanging from your butt?

I'm like, Heather, get over here. You know, my wife, she looks and is just disgusted. I'm like, these are worms, you know, so take some toilet paper, just slowly pull it out. I'm like, my gosh. And the next like month and a half, I just had piles come out of me and I'm like, I've parasite cleanse before. What, what, what is going on? And realizing, right, all my symptoms I'd had of food allergies and sensitive stomach and you know, this and that and skin issues. was like, yeah. I mean, it's clear that it's parasites, but I never found anything that actually worked. And so.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (57:41.932)
I just started recommending it to all my clients in the Lyme disease world. Like call Dr. Todd Watts office. It's going to come in this like compound pharmacy bottle, but it's just cause it's so sticky. It has a hand encapsulated, it's called mimosa pudica seed. And they went on and it was so profound. And that, that product is called Para One once started Cellcore. And we just basically became friends and actually tried to talk him out of having a company, supplement company. Cause I'm like, Hey, you don't want deal with the regulation and all the compliance issues and things like that. And then he just kept moving forward.

with his mimosa pudica seed that he'd been working with clinically for a few years, and then finally got it bottled. And basically the day that he launched just that formula, my brother's like, Hey, why don't you partner with Todd and come out with some more effective parasite cleansing stuff? I'm like, it's a good idea. And he said, it's a good idea. And so that's actually where we started back in 2017. And then it's just little did I realize there's a whole team of scientists that he knew that had this thing called, you know, carbon technology.

that basically just needed some help on creating protocols and educating the world about it. that's how Cellcore has been birthed. So incredible. I guess the other question, I want to be respectful of your hour too. I know we're, almost at an hour here. You know, when, when, when somebody comes in with a chronic condition, with Lyme disease, with chronic viral infections, you know, should one

jump into the cell core world, what kind of timeline are people looking at? Is this something that I can cleanse in six weeks? Is this something that I can look at a few months to be doing? Is this a lifetime affair? What's been your experience? I always look at it as a journey. So everybody wants to just be well, but what you don't realize is it's either you're getting well or expressing health or you're expressing disease or disease. So you're moving one way or the other way. I just...

focused on like, this is a journey. So where are you at? If you have chronic illness, that's how cell core was actually birthed. If you don't, it is so much easier. Because if this stuff works for those that are super sensitive and have had all of these symptoms and problems for a really long time, then somebody that isn't at that level, which is a good thing, it's going to work easier generally for and faster.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (59:59.636)
So it depends on kind of where you're at, because somebody that was really bad chronic illness, I mean, it could be at least a year before like, boom, the lights are like on and I've got life back. I mean, we've seen it obviously faster than that, but I don't want to, I don't want people to expect like, within a month, I'm going to be different. It's like, no, it's a process. mean, for the basic, for the more, what I would consider average person, that's not chronically ill four months, four months protocol wise is like, you are going to be tip top shape and just.

in such a better place. you'll find out in the journey, part of what's important in the journey is listening to your body and you'll find out the things that you need to focus more on and the things that are like, yeah, I kind of breeze through that. The things that you need to focus on, that's where you need to go to. Some people, they get stuck in parasite cleansing for a while. Some people, they just toxins and it takes a while to detoxify. And it's all about lifestyle as well too. Of course, emotional traumas, people's spiritual.

life, people's physical habits are going to play a role. So I look at cell cores. It's really like the chemistry side of the body, but those other parts matter as well too. So the more you're addressing all the stuff, the faster that the cell core part will go. If you're ignoring the other stuff, the slower generally the cell core stuff will go too. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. When we just touch on parasites again, you know, and, and,

things not necessarily all being labeled as bad. We mentioned that about viruses for a second, which we could do a whole podcast on viruses. it's been a fascinating topic of study for me. But I often see parasites vilified. And I always spend my understanding through my research that they are there doing job. know, we have parasitic infections and there's a role to play whether that's

I've always heard the tale that parasites have an affinity for metals. that they're definitely, they're almost like these scavengers in the terrain. So if you could speak to that for a little bit, and I know it's kind of two sides of the coin. want to get rid of the parasites or move those away from our body. it's, again, it's been my understanding that to like always think about moving the bugs out of the terrain isn't really a great long-term strategy towards robust health.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (01:02:18.58)
Yeah. So the goal with parasites is actually to bring the load down and then change the environment that doesn't attract them. so they are there in response to chemicals. They're there in response to toxins where it gets misconstrued is when you have practitioners are like, no, look at this research. When they did helm of therapy, this person's IBS went away. This Crohn's disease went away. And it's like, wait a minute, back up here a second. So I'm going to ingest a rat tapeworm or a pig whipworm that doesn't really.

affect humans, I'm going to ingest this thing. It's going to hatch and then it's going to distract my immune system to minimize my symptoms of IBS, ulcerative colitis or Crohn's. And I'm going to say that that's, that's the cure. And that's what we all need to do is actually ingest parasites when all it is is really, it's the medical model of it's trying to distract the symptom. So parasites are there because the environment, what you have to realize and why it's so important is in the chronic illness, the parasitic load,

gets too elevated, it gets too high. We have to bring that down. Why parasites are needed to be addressed early on is they've shown in literature, like Dr. Alan McDonald has shown that Lyme disease, Borrelia borbdorferi bacteria will live safely within nematodes, which is basically roundworms, right? A type of parasite. Mold spores will be inside of parasites. Toxins such as heavy metals, like you mentioned, along with other toxins will be stored in

Parasites, parasites are sponges for harboring things, bugs and toxins. So if I have, let's say I have Lyme disease or I have a certain toxin and I'm trying to kill the bug or detox that toxin, if it's being stored in parasites, you're never going to get to it. And what you need to, until you clear the parasites out, this is why parasites have to come early on in the journey. I am not a fan of the idea of annihilation.

Like, cause the bugs, like we have bugs all over us. Parasite though, the word parasite says one that sits like the Greek meaning is one that sits at another's table. So it's, it's only taking stuff from you. Now it can that frame. So parasites can actually minimize symptoms. Like if you have a toxin exposure and it's binding in, it's soaking them up, it's sponging up. Great. You could have a minimization of maybe a specific symptom.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (01:04:43.737)
that's being caused from that toxin because of the parasite. But the thing you have to understand is that parasites produce their byproducts or just easy to say parasite poop. And that's what we are reacting to and is not good for the body. But yet the parasites aren't going to be absorbing all the toxins. So still you have to detox and it just comes back to order. Cleanse parasites, remove the toxin to change the environment, stop the friggin onslaught and exposure of the toxin. It's usually coming in people's drinking water.

is a big, big exposure. That's being the missing link, the radioactive elements. You're literally drinking them every day. You're like, why is this? Why do I, why don't I feel energy? Why can't I just wake up in the morning and be ready to go? It's like, because you're drinking the poison all day long and, the, yeah, well, it's, really drinking it. So I'm not, I'm not opposed to like whole house filtration or water filtration for like showers and things, but it's really the drinking water and people are like, no, I have RO. No, I have this filtration. No, I have that.

It's just a, it's a false sense of security. And it's why we don't actually, why we haven't figured out that the drinking water is the major issue because, no, I use this, you know, fill the blank in 14 stage filtration. It's like when's the last company that you can send a water sample into that's going to test for the 86,000 chemicals that are registered to the EPA. nobody, you'd lucky if they test for a hundred, let alone a thousand, let alone 86,000. So to think like your drinking water is pure. And that's why.

I'm at the point now, cause when we moved, we live in Puerto Rico, currently we've been here actually little over three years now. but my wife's ears started clogging up and we thought it was like a ear infection, sinus infection, did all this natural stuff. And it wasn't until we got a water distiller about a year and a half ago that all of a her ears stopped being plugged. And it it would sound like she's underwater and it was like your ears plugged. Yeah. And it would be from she food boom plug. And I was like, what's going on? Well, there's some chemical that's in the water that were.

where we live in Puerto Rico that was obviously causing some issues. We switched over to still water and all of a sudden it was like, she's like, I can hear popping in my ears. And then a month later it was like, Oh, it's more open. The couple of months later it was better and it's only gotten better. And it's like, Oh my gosh, it was, and we had a Berkey with the white filters and we're like, it can't be the water. And finally I'm like, I'm getting water distiller and sure enough, boom, it changed. I'm like, Oh my gosh, it's the freaking water. And that's all we drink, right? How simple is that to just to make sure.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (01:07:11.887)
We're so obsessed with food and making sure there's no chemicals in food. It's like, the water, drinking water, I believe is even more important. so yeah, I'm, I'm of that belief system too. And it's a, it's again, I'm sure we could do a whole podcast on water and, it's, it's such a rabbit hole because there's so many questions out there. And, you know, I do, I do that. I have the Berkey, I the, I have the membranes. I spin the water with a spinner. put red light on it. I do CT minerals, you know, I'm trying to do.

you know, the best I can, but I'm sure, you know, again, I'm sure it keep going. Honestly. And I'm to challenge you a little bit. All you need is distilled water and then you can add the CT minerals. can add the Mito ATP to the water to cause that'll that'll immediately energize or structure it instantaneously. Cause I used to vortex. I used to have Berkey. used to have Aqua True used to have RO used to have ionizers. mean, I've been on the gamut and it literally the most important part of water is just making sure there's no chemicals and there is no

perfect filtration system out there, but I believe the best one right now is distillation. So I'm going to challenge you, get a water distiller, test it out yourself, and then you can energize, spin, light, whatever you want after, but just make sure the chemicals are gone first place. Yeah. Yeah. I'll try that. I am a consider myself a water snob. You know, I try not to drink water out at restaurants or anything like that, even with my

you know, especially with my meal and it's, it's definitely been something that's made a difference. What I'll say is people always, and I don't wear any, I don't have creams or like any skin, you know, I don't put anything on my skin or anything. I don't use shampoo. I'm shaving my head, but I, I do people, people always tell me that like your skin is glowing, your skin is glowing. What are you doing? And I'm like, it's lifestyle. You know, it must be the water that I drank. It must be this dedication to,

using life giving supplements like these bioactive carbons, you know, that that's part of it. You know, there's again, there's some other cool light and energetic wellness technologies that I use, but it's been really, uh, since I got sick, that's been the commitment is to at least try or set the intention to eat and drink as clean as I possibly can. Well, and just as I know we're wrapping this up because I have another meeting here. Um, the, if you actually go on to, cause cause I, I,

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (01:09:37.979)
I push back when Dr. Todd Watts is like, it's something in your water and it's in all three of you. was like, no, we filter eight months later asking about the ears. He's like, it's still in your water. I'm like, fine. I'm getting a distiller, right? Cause I looked up on the Berkey website. I'm like, look at the research. It removes 99.9 % of radioactive elements, right? Right. In the first like 50 or a hundred gallons. I'm like, well, where, where are we at in a thousand gallons? Where are we at in 2000 gallons? And let's say.

Cause everybody's water source is different. Let's say there's an abundance of a very specific chemical or radioactive element. How long will it take before that filter fills up and it's not filtering anymore? You know, cause there's specific parts within filters, the great thing of a water distillation, all of that stuff sits at bottom every single time, all the time. And literally the only thing that's going to come up is volatile organic compounds potentially that come up.

with the vapor of the H2O molecule. And then it just drips down through a little carbon that binds onto it. And then that little carbon pod is what you replace, but you'll be amazed when you use a distiller, like what is left in the bottom, just like the sediment and stuff like that. And so I'm gonna challenge you, Freddie. You gotta let me know if you do it. I'll like start it this week. I'll tell you if anything shifts. And people can...

People can go buy distilled water and jugs, but then you're getting the plastic. So I recommend just, have a, have a countertop water distiller. It's all stainless steel. It drips into a glass jar. That's what I have. I don't work for any distiller company and you know, the one I bought, if people are wondering, it's my pure water.com, just the countertop unit. That's what I have, but just go get a water distiller. I think drinking it from a jug is way better, but you're still going to, you know, you're going to have some of that plastic byproduct that's in the jugs. So.

Yeah, unless you could go get distilled water and go fill up a big glass. yeah. Yeah. If they have a water solution. Yep. I think Whole Foods does that. I think. think they do that. Dr. J, I could ask you so, so many questions. And I know that also, like we said, Dr. Todd, your business partner, I know you guys have so many things that you share that make the team amazing. I'm going to set the intention to do this again in the future. I'm going to switch out the water. have so many people asking me good questions about

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (01:12:00.079)
Selcor, where would you tell people to go if they just want to learn about the product and the systems and the why's and the methodology of Selcor? Well, Selcor is a practitioner brand. So it's selcor.com. There's not a lot of stuff public. We really focus with training practitioners and a lot of... There's a lot of censorship and things we have to be worried about on what we communicate on certain topics. So that stuff's all behind a login for practitioners. But I just recommend to find a practitioner.

like yourself or somebody that's certified or understands Cellcore and meet with them. And there's tons of handouts and information and things that we have for practitioners that they can pass along. But that's probably the best way. And you can always email too, if you're looking for somebody, I guess, you can email our support team. But I just recommend reach out to yourself and get some assistance there. Yeah. My only complaint is that people will be texting me

pictures of poop and parasites and liver flukes in the middle of the night. And cause everybody's like, Hey, welcome to my world, Freddie. Welcome to my world. was like, literally, and I don't ask. I was, literally, was like, listen, I celebrate you. This is the last picture of the toilet I want in my phone. So I'm, yeah, I'm so excited. We're going to do more.

Jay, I think this was easily one of the most informative best podcasts. I'm so excited. There's so many overlaps of truth that I could go on and on in stories. And like you said, these things, we can show this through science that they arise from in the body. Many, many examples of this. I didn't get into the story of like, you know, it's always been fascinating to me when you look at a corpse and you have this body and I know this is kind of a gross story. It could be an animal corpse that within about a week, there's like all these like,

bugs and maggots and all these things out of this animal. they, nope, they didn't crawl out of the woods. They like come from the animal. It's a process. They were in these little microbes, little, little microbes all of a sudden within a week are like these great big animals. You know, they grow because it's part of this life process. And I think that's always resonated with me that this is something in me.

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (01:14:14.915)
that's coming up as a result of the emotional imbalance, the environmental imbalance that we have instances where we use, people always forget about this, that pisses me off, that we use viral infections at some point to target specific cancers.

clinics in Mexico, which will use viral infections in the brain to work with certain types of glioblastoma, where they'll bring inflammation from a viral infection, mobilize the immune system, and then the immune system goes to work and starts working on these specific cancers. to label all these bugs and viruses is bad. It's so irresponsible. And I think it just takes a little thinking out of the box and reading, and then talking to people who have walked through this.

personal experience, N equals one experiments and really listening to their story and leaning into that. Yep. Germ theory is not accurate, but you're dealing with a consciousness level on this world that thinks it is. So focused on the poison and toxin rather than just worrying about the bug and it's taking it down. Cause I do agree. Like there are, they're always there in us or made of it.

It's only when the environment changes that then they respond and it's usually a poison, a chemical, a toxin that then they'll respond. And then we'll be like, I can't believe I caught this bug or got this flu. It's like, no, you're just exposed to a poison and your body's trying to clean it up. But you think you caught a bug from outside of you. Everything comes from within. And I agree with, with your thoughts on that. Yeah, it's, fascinating. So.

I can't wait to connect again. can't wait to get this podcast out to the audience. I'm going to turn it around really quick because it's so amazing. And can people hear you speak anywhere? Do you have any events coming up that you'd like people to be aware of? Any practitioners? Yeah. If you're a practitioner, you can go to sellcore.com and register for a practitioner. have an event October 28th, 29th and 30th. So three-day event in Boise, Idaho. Just for practitioners, you can come in person or if you want to be virtual,

Freddie Kimmel and Dr. Jay Davidson (01:16:23.065)
There's also a virtual streaming option as well. It's amazing. think there's probably like 400 people registered already in, for the event in person, but the, is the culture, the energy in person just doesn't beat streaming it. But if that's all you got, that's all you got. So yeah, sellcore.com, it's probably the best, know, and you can register right there as a practitioner, just reach out to us and we can connect you. Wonderful.

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