Biohacking Besties: LIVE in Las Vegas

WELCOME TO EPISODE 118

What happens when two high-performing Biohackers get together in Vegas?! Everything! And you're gonna hear all about it because they turned on the recording equipment. Magic, Mayhem, and a whole of lot knowledge BOMBS in the health and human optimization arena. In this episode, Kristin Weitzel joins Beautifully Broken to chat about the Biohacking Congress in Las Vegas, Nevada. Kristin is a health and high-performance maven, certified fitness trainer, breathwork and cold exposure instructor, and nutritionist focusing on guiding women to optimal health. They talk about their time Biohacking sin city for optimal sleep, wellness, and navigating clean food in a town filled with Glyphosate and GMOs. They dish on their favorite mentors in the community like Kiran Krishnan of Microbiome Labs and Don Moxley of Longevity Labs, Inc, Mollie McGlocklin, Wesley King, and the Biohacker Babes! There’s a lot to unpack in this episode, so stay tuned!

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Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (00:00.078)
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Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (00:51.375)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Beautifully Broken podcast. I am your host, Freddie Kimmel, and I'm sitting looking over the beautiful, beautiful landscape of Las Vegas. I'm just off the strip at the Virgin Hotel and coming off the tail end of the biohacking Congress in 2022. And I'm sitting here with my biohacking bestie, Kristen Whitesill. Kristen, how you doing? I'm great. Great. Well, I like that you're running the show.

Great. mean, that was very clear because as we started, you said, tell me what to do. Well, you know, it's a lot to talk about. We just had this whole big weekend experience here at Excalibur Hotel. And I think we both took a lot away from it. Yeah. And I wanted to sit down. We've been talking about doing a biohacking besties podcast. You've been in one of my seasons. I've been in one of yours, which you've yet to release. And we always talk. We just say we should

push record when we sit down and have these conversations to recap. What do we just experience in Las Vegas? Cause for the home user who is not there, it's a two day event and there is a stage filled with incredible speakers in the biohacking human optimization space. There's a floor which has a vendor booths, people working with different probiotics and technology and lights and face creams and hyperbaric chambers and

brain tap and all the things that you can walk on and get your hands on. Right? So it's just really, it's an incredible amount of energy moving through the space in two days. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that the cool thing about that whole, I hate to call it the vendor area, right? Because I think that this is a small enough show where you get this beautiful opportunity to show up and do things that you don't at some of the larger conferences, like get inside a hard hyperbaric chamber, which is like,

an experience that can cost upwards of two or $300 in your local market. And you can try it out and you can have some guidance and it's very one-on-one. it's kind of a cool feature of that part of the show. Yeah. What do live events do for you? Like, why do you attend them? Why do you spend the money? Because it is, it's an investment. It's the plane here and there. It's a hotel room. You know, you're paying for food in a city. You're trying to get as clean of food as possible.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (03:12.709)
which could be another podcast. In and of itself, for sure. The traveling biohacker episode because it can be so challenging. Yeah. Yeah, you need to post some of those photos of the chicken and the lettuce. One day, I mean, we easily spent like $150 going back and forth to Whole Foods for Bulletproof Coffee. But one day I grabbed a rotisserie chicken.

iceberg lettuce. Romaine. He always says iceberg, but I always want to remind everyone out there listening, none of us should be eating iceberg. No nutritional value there. actually romaine hearts. They're romaine hearts. A little more nutrition than iceberg. Right. And I also grabbed, I believe... It's like guacamole, organic guacamole. I organic guacamole. So I made chicken boats out of the romaine hearts.

pulled apart the rotisserie chicken and we had to wash the lettuce in the bathtub. Not ideal, I know, bad water. We had to pull apart the chicken and use a hotel towel. There were no plates in the MGM where we ended up staying. Anyways, but it was a good experiment because as opposed to eat food that was suboptimal, we did the best we could in the moment. But I also posed a question to you like five minutes ago, like what is the value of you going to these events? Yeah, I know you posed that question. The value for me is always, I mean,

With Congress specifically, the Biohacking Congress, because there's multiple every year, I've spoken at the last five, which was really nice to be able to sort of share my story as well as get some touch time with other females because I work so much in the female health space. But this one was really nice because I didn't have the pressure of speaking so I could do a little interview time and really experience a bit more of the show and how it feels hour to hour.

So a lot of networking, a lot of community. would say those are the two biggest things that really spark me when I'm going to live events is, it's never enough time. We're always saying, we're all running around, we're networking with each other, we're hanging in community and we are sharing best practices, which, you know, within our community of health optimization fanatics, I think is important because we are living in this fast paced vacuum quite often at home.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (05:24.655)
Like I'm running my Well Power podcast and my warrior woman mode business and I don't necessarily have other business partners to share ideas with. So when we're in a collective, we get to share these ideas and tell each other, do that. don't do that. I heard this thing. you know, in a non non-judgmental, non-slanderous way, we're really sharing the information that comes our way and what we've seen from different brands and different partners and different speakers to recommend to each other.

Yeah, I would say that the community building is unparalleled. I always think it's incredible to meet your heroes or people that you've put on a pedestal of, especially in the space, like to, I've had Kiran from Microbiome Labs on twice to talk about, he is the guru of my gut health world, Kiran Krishnan. And just to meet him and to hug and we looked at each other, it was like, we've never met in person. It was like, oh my God.

So he's incredible. And then I got to meet another hero of mine, Ian Mitchell, who I've texted forever about being on the show. And finally, I got like this second time verbal agreement to do the show, but he's wild mad scientist working on things like carbon neutral concrete. And at the same time, supplements that are going to change the game for Alzheimer's and brain fog and

He's made an encapsulated form of ozone that is shelf stable. mean, really wild, wild inventions and just such a nice guy. And so to meet him and see him and like, experience his energy in real time. It's like when your heroes live up to what you've experienced, like through social media and through email campaigns and online summits, just, takes it to the next level for me. So I'm, I think the value of me being at these events is like that

physical connection and just to experience somebody's energy in real time. Yeah. And I think the other thing that's really amazing as I listen to you talk about these, like they're your heroes and they're, they're people that I look up to as well in many ways. And some of them I know less about, and this is part of like the sharing process and the biohacking bestie process for us is that I think a lot of times when you're at these shows, you're like,

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (07:40.722)
you're going and you're like nerding out. We're kind of all nerding out, but you do a little more nerding out and I do a little bit more bro-ing down. And I use that term bro-ing down because I don't think there is one that exists for like women getting together and really like, like in the sisterhood and talking about all of the down and dirty stuff. there's, it's like the, recognize that I was like, my goodness, you already met and spoke to an interview, Don Moxley. And I really got a chance to get to know him better this weekend. And for me, I was like, let's just lean into sport and fitness and

all the years of the background he has of HRV studies with his wrestling team at the Ohio State University. you know, it's like sort of a nice balance there. Right. And it's like a good reminder because you need both sides. You need the internal checking of our microbiome and our terrain, as you would say, as well as understanding how we move our bodies in space and what we can do to improve performance and just functional movement. I mean, across the board. So that's a nice.

I like that balance that we kind of go off in our separate directions sometimes and then come back and nerd out and bro down together. Yeah. And it's a small community. think that, but let's hold for a second and just pause on Don Moxley because you loved Don Moxley. You loved, you're like, Don Moxley is amazing. He has a lot of experience really with sport and

You know, I don't talk a lot often about working with athletes, but the more I'm working with athletes, including the professional sector of athletes, the more I listen. I'm curious and I'm have a growth mindset and I have a ton to learn and using my breath work application, using my cold application, using the biohacking and nutrition background. I continue to need people who I can look to and go to who have been doing this work in the fitness arena for more years than me. That's the way I get better. Right. And so.

And I have a natural proclivity sort of from, think, corporate life and sport life in some ways that the many of the mentors I've had, as ironically as the sounds and warrior woman modes world, many of my mentors have been males because they cracked a lot of the code first, just socially and organizationally. And I think that that's a there's a communication piece there that really works for me. Yeah. And learning and taking in information.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (10:00.285)
Yeah. And Don, you know, again, Don is amazing. I've seen Don speak four times now, because we seem to be at a lot of the same events. And he's, you know, he has put a lot of this actionable data on longevity with relation to spermity and spermity being a supplement that is really garnishing some interest around extending lifespan and health span, how the body ages.

It's really great. I've literally, it's probably been November. I've been going at it strong. You know, again, N equals one experiment. I've had some nights where I've high dose it and have seen some high shifts in HRV, not always consistent, but the data says that over, you know, the next 10, 20, 30 years that me taking this on the regular two capsules a day is going to help how I age. And Don had this great graph at How Do You Health Festival in Austin, Texas put on our

by our friends at MSW Lounge. And he showed this chart of like, how you die, right? With relation to what age. And so there was this big, like this big, big, huge colored out spot for like, it was like 16 to like 21. And it was like all auto accidents. Like that's how you go, right? And then it started to look at heart disease and cancer and these other onsets, but.

You know, he's really looking at that gerontological curve or how we're aging. And the data is pointing to spermidine, which is the product that Don speaks about often, or includes in his talks that shows great promise. So I love listening to him speak and I love his, I do love his background in, in sport because he's very by the numbers, right? He's not going to run up on a pedestal and say, this is the one supplement you need. It's just something he's pulled into the arsenal.

Yeah, and he's like different than a lot of the coaching. This is like the big thing that, you know, I think we feel or I know I feel, let me just speak for myself sometimes, which is there's, I have a lot of background and learning from coaches and strength and conditioning in that world. And then I have this background in biohacking and there is a bit of a disconnect between the two, right? This like health optimization, fitness training optimization, you know, with that whole ARX protocol that I'm on right now, it's something that's very

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (12:15.401)
outside of that traditional professional sports or traditional, let's just say, strength and conditioning world. And so it seems like, you know, you're an outlier until you're not. You're a little bit crazy and on the fringe until you're not. And the until you're not part is like there's enough research and there's enough background and space in the biohacking world around some of these fitness tools and complementary modalities that is not getting enough face time. And

sometimes like to be very vulnerable about it. think sometimes I feel like, well, who am I to be the face who's showing up to bring this to that space? But when I sat with the power athlete team, these two guys I really respect in the strength and conditioning world and said, I want to get you guys around the table with like the air X people and Dave Asprey and and all the biohackers and, you know, the power athlete crew was like, well, that's what we're doing right now. And it just occurred to me in that moment that I was like selling myself short in some way by saying.

Okay, that's what we're doing right now. I'm here as a biohacker representing red light therapy, the flex beam, breath work, cold exposure, and having some of these conversations about strength training modalities that are outside of the box. And that was a bit of like a light bulb going off for me. Like stop saying you need to get the people together and be one of the people that's getting together to make change. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's an energetic around saying like, I'm here and I'm me and I'm

all that's needed in the conversation as opposed to saying, I want to do this for you guys. Can you walk it back for a second? Because you just threw out ARX. You're like, I'm on this ARX thing. And I have a podcast with ARX. It has yet to air. I assume this will come out first. But if we were in an elevator for 20 seconds, what would you say ARX is?

First, I'd say I need to get my ARX episode out on WellPower podcast too, so that everybody can listen to both sides of the fence. This is about your journey with ARX and mine, right? It's different journeys. Primarily, I guess the answer to your question in a 30 second elevator pitch is that... I said 20 seconds. God. ARX adaptive resistance exercise is an opportunity for someone to be able to push 100 % of an eccentric load. We might call that negatives in the strength and conditioning world.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (14:26.777)
to be able to build force and your force potential and muscle more than you ever could any other way. And I've been in a 12 week protocol that I don't have the full data yet, but I've been in a 12 week protocol that seems to me with a minimal amount of other training modalities in my schedule that it is continuing to build muscle mass time over time to two times a week is my frequency of hitting the ARX.

So it's safe, it's effective, it's not always fun, but it is the bleeding edge of fitness technology and it is the future. Yeah, fun. Yeah, I would say, again, from my experience using it three times a month, since I'd really got to Austin or maybe like two months after that, it's been like anywhere from a 64 % to like a 39 % improvement in strength in all areas, pushing, pulling, legs, back rows, press.

It's been a very small amount of time, maybe like 13 minutes a week and like three times a month. So it's been my primary exercise equipment for strength. And I've been really impressed at how forgiving it is with my body, even going through all the surgeries I talk about and the chronic inflammatory response syndrome that I'll sometimes be triggered by mold or Lyme or whatever. I've still been able to kind of get up and show up with this equipment. So I'm really excited about it and knowing that

with that strength comes mitochondrial density, comes a deeper ability to deal with all chronic illness, including cancer. So- production of HGH and higher production of testosterone. Yeah. It's always, you know- Always good when you have a testicle cut off. Yeah, it's cool. It's exciting and it's fun. I just wanted to walk it back there. To take us back to the biohacking Congress, and we mentioned Don.

10 out of 10, Don Moxley. 10 out of 10, Don. You heard it here first. There's so many other people we could talk about at the event that maybe we could just throw out some favorites, some whys, some whos, and some things you're excited to learn more about. don't you just, you can go first. I'll go first. Okay. Yeah, I want to hear yours too, but I'm going to start with the impeccable resetter, Mindy Pels. So had her on my podcast a little bit ago.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (16:53.081)
Dr. Mindy Pels, she has a high level of specialization around female hormones and cycling, fasting and working within the menopausal and perimenopausal years, specifically around fasting and other things. She's quite intelligent. She's written several books and it's just nice to see her always. Sometimes I show up and she's the only woman on a panel. And I think I'm cheering her on for that as well. lot of great minds up.

and around the Congress, but many pals I love her work. She's easy to find in Google and it's a rabbit hole of information. She says, I put so much stuff up on social media. I don't even know where it is anymore. She's got YouTube channel and Instagram and well worth it, especially for the women out in the audience. But either way, for the people who are more interested in understanding fasting, intermittent fasting, long-term fasting across the board. Great. Great. I would have to say my person that I've

I love seeing at multiple shows now and at your event, the WoW Factor Weekend in Austin was Molly McLaughlin, Sleep is a Skill. Sleep is a Skill podcast. She's so well read and researched. And the thing I like about Molly is that she's doing it. You see her committing to the practices that she speaks about, whether that's getting up and looking at the sun early in the morning, whether it's dropping the temperature of the house to 67 degrees.

whether it's putting on her blue blockers, you she really lives the life of a sleep optimizer. And that's so important to me. I can't tell you how many times I'm not calling anyone out. I'm going to call them in. But there has been the experience in which I have been in so many Western medicals office of wellness providers, offices, wellness providers that people have looked like death warmed over. I asked myself, like, am I really, am I reaching out to you for optimization right now?

because you look like you're about to roll over in your grave or did not a call out. And I also, I also see this in the functional medicine slash biohacker space. It's clear when somebody's living in what they're speaking about and it's clear when someone is not. So I'll just say that is like a blanket statement, not a call out, a really a call in or an invitation to it's so powerful when you see people deliver a message and they have a sense of vibrancy.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (19:10.844)
clarity, know, health is so subjective, but you know, when somebody's just, wow, they're emanating something. This is not six pack abs. This is not like perfect skin. I'm saying there is a vitality or an energy. Like a vibrancy. A vibrancy to which people present. And Molly holds that. Like she just has that glow about her. Yeah. And you just love her because every time we're going to go out to dinner, she's like, we're going to go early. Like, you know, the blue plate specials, it's pre-sunset circadian rhythm.

Positive. Yeah, that is a new goal for me that I'm trying to eat before or directly as the sun is going down because again, I'll go back to my N equals one experiment on the planet. When you cut into intestines, you will change the transit time of food. You will change the time that I need with an empty belly is optimized when I can really honor that.

And so if I go to bed and eat at 9.30, 10 o'clock on a full tummy, you know, all the other things that I'm taking to aid digestion, transient time of food, they're diminished. Like for me, like three hours of non-eating before I lay down my head on a pillow is so helpful. And yeah, I do love that she eats early. And you see it in your scores. Right.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. For those of you who aren't following Freddie and Freddie Setgo on Instagram, he posts his bio strap scores almost every day. So yeah, you can see his sleep, how well he sleeps or call him out if he went to bed too late. Yeah, I do love that strap. And also it should be mentioned that, you know, Freddie got up on stage and sang a tune. like that's one of the I think that's one of the favorites of the biohacking Congress or anywhere that you speak. If you are gracing us with a song in your presentation, it's getting a little like dinner and a show as well.

Is that the only thing that was good about my presentation was the song? No, it's always good. You know, I love to talk about AmpCoil. I love to talk about AmpCoil because in the beginning, AmpCoil for me felt way disconnected. I didn't understand it. I didn't quite know about like frequency therapy or about resonance devices like that. So for me, it's always wonderful to have seen that presentation a decent amount. You always change it up, but I've learned more and more every time you speak about it. So now I feel more familiar and

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (21:29.785)
utilizing it and having experiences with it. But some of these subtle body devices, because I think I'm alpha biohacker in the beginning of my career, took a while for me to adopt. Yeah. And it's nice to speak about AMP Coil. It's nice to pull it into where it fits in my paradigm. I've had such a unique story with health. Continue to, that comes up for me in different layers all the time as I talk about biohacking. It's like,

What do do when how many hours at what time and when does it become too much? But you know the idea that it's subtle energy and not a system that like vibrates the muscular tissue or the body doesn't convulse people are always worried. They're like is it going to be powerful enough? You know, is it powerful and I'm like, yeah when you start using it your mind could be absolutely blown like, you know from your experience would you say it's not like powerful enough or like

What's been your experience? Because you've been on Amplio for a little bit. You've got to do more than a few sessions at this point. Yeah, I mean, I bet I've done like 70 journeys or something at this point. I think, number one, it's super down regulating, which if you look at my cortisol lab, you know that I need. And that's really helpful for me. I think I tend to straight away in the beginning from the emotional journeys, which is really interesting because the more I run them, the more I feel like they're shifting how I feel.

And that's, you know, like it's like love giving and love receiving. And I'm like, come on, pull the literature on that. I want to see the science on what's love, you know. But then I'm running those and feeling really open about it. And yeah, so just I think it's been the journey within the journeys, you know, and I've done regulation capacity sleep, helping with my sleep when I had the C word, you know, and when that hit me last year, it was like I took that device device to bed with me and I took that amp coil.

from our lovely friend who lent it to me for a week and every night really ran Wellness 2020 and really felt like that was the thing that put me over the edge saying, I like this device, it feels like it works, okay, I'm figuring it out. But like the way that it transitioned how I felt around COVID was night and day. It's like the thing that really made me have the all in on Amcoil. I wanna ask you a question though about the show and go back to Congress a bit, which is, you know. it back to Congress. I just wanna.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (23:50.371)
ask you like, was there something there like the one thing there that was like an unexpected standout for you? Like something that you were like, I didn't expect this to be at the show and it kind of blew my mind and was awesome or this really stood out to me because it didn't, I wouldn't have normally thought it fit in, but it did in some way. It added value. Goodness. Yeah. I would go to Wesley King. Yeah. Yeah. I would go to Wesley and not that he didn't fit in, but

Wesley is the biohacking banker on Instagram and he gave a presentation about the overlap of financial wellness and funding your technology and building successful business and fundraising and the idea that innovation is going to drive this monetary river to flow in your company. There was so many good themes in his talk, which I only act to truth be told, I got half of it because I was running the amp coil booth at the same time.

But I just really love what he's bringing to the space. And I think any conference, it's a disservice not to have Wesley speak. It's so important. People need to understand this. And there's so many times because as a consultant for biohacking technologies and businesses, I'm on like three to four at this point, one's going to be coming up that I'm going to be consulting a company on their technology. And how do you make it work?

How do you make it work in a business format? Why is it profitable? Why is it not? How does your messaging align with your product? How are you reaching the people to scale? How are you getting into new markets? And I'm learning all that as I go. But because of my involvement in this space for the last three years, I've learned a lot. mostly I've learned what doesn't work. Mostly I've learned what doesn't work. So it was great to see him there and to keep building my knowledge around that.

platform. mean, he lives in Austin. He's a friend of both of ours. So I can't wait to just continue learning from Wesley. Yeah. Great energy also, just like a lovely, kind human being who's been in my home, who went out to dinner. I would just, you know, he's just a great guy. Yeah. Yeah. And I would have to agree. I think that presentation struck me as well. It's really important. And the things that stood out for me were about, you know, how we spread and

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (26:10.763)
course correct the term biohacking because it's really polarizing for people, which I don't necessarily think is a bad thing, given my marketing background. But you know, and the same the platform with me working with FlexBeam, with me working with other technological companies who are raising capital and funding and all of that. And the other thing that I love that he talked about was just like how we set ourselves up as biohackers who are succeeding or health optimizers who are succeeding to be able to do some volunteerism to really like

put ourselves in a space where we can support other people in the health space, where we can do some volunteerism about spreading the word or do some things to be able to reach communities who can't necessarily get those. You know, we talk about ARX, There are 300 units in the whole country or the world and it's a $30,000 machine. And how do we get more of those into the marketplace? And even on a smaller scale, right? Even a red light therapy device that costs five, six, $700 plus if it's a panel, et cetera, can be

out of reach for some people. how do we get facilities like Worthy that's up in San Francisco that just opened? Some memberships that people are enrolling in can give these communities who don't quite have this economic reach able to use biohacking devices and tools. So I'm stoked to see where Wesley's reviewed like over 500 BC decks. And he's just really into that scene in a way that I think is going to do nothing but catapult us, all of us who are in this space.

And that knowledge, because we see so much of this, you and I see a lot of the marketing backstory, I think, that comes with some of these tools and technologies and really making biohacking and health optimization, whether it's supplements, whether it's tech, whether it's coaching, just making it approachable. It's like the number one way we reach people and we expand health. Yeah, I think it's so important as we expand our awareness around what this space is, as it grows, as its living ecosystem. And I think it's evolved a lot over the last few years.

I've become increasingly aware of the way environmental toxicity affects my body. Now in the past, I've tested high for mercury, lead, cadmium, glyphosate, and mycotoxins from old. Now I know what you're thinking, that is a full bucket, and even worse than the list of toxins was the fatigue, the neuralgia, and the brain fog due to the burden on the system. So luckily, I was introduced to the ion cleanse foot bath by AMD.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (28:30.435)
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I talk a lot about what we'll remove from the body over the next 10 years, whether that's environmental toxicity, whether it's mold, whether it's an imbalance in minerals, which is so fascinating to me. There's such great data you can get for just for my HTMA or hair mineral analysis test. I see that work for myself. I see it work for my mom, which I'm going to be talking about with my mom's. I did two podcasts with upgraded formulas, and then I had my mom do a hair mineral analysis. And so her data...

was exactly what she was experiencing. Her calcium to magnesium ratios, The idea that there is hidden mercury. And when you start supplementing with really good magnesium and thyroid support, all of a sudden you've got where the mercury come from in the follow-up test. Just like we said it was going to happen. So I just believe in the validity of all those things and the danger with, I think, the biohacking world or the tech is that you could just buy things.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (30:48.291)
Yeah, it's like the shiny new toy. It's like I had a year at my one of my annual clients show up who said, hey, look at all of these things. Where do I start? What should I get? What do I do? And it's like, I feel confident in being able to be her trusted advisor and knowing her health history and her baseline and saying, hey, the shiny new toys are great. We got to start with the things that are really key. Right. Like you and I would always agree. How do we deal with water? How do we deal with red light in our lives? Is there a feasibility? Because not only does it benefit.

You, it can benefit your family or people who living in a home with you. And so, you you could easily spend a ton of money there and we all need to find the things that are going to be affecting the baseline most robustly, your favorite word. Robust, the robust terrain, the robust terrain. Is there another person that you saw at the event that you just kind of resonate with, lights you up that you were excited to meet or talk to? I mean, there are so many, you know, it's like a

I really liked the fasting panel as much as I'm like, I know about fasting. love doing fasting long-term once a year, intermittent fasting, et cetera. The fasting panel was great. always think Benazati is super, he's just like friendly and really translates things in a sweet way that seems easily understandable. that's, it was a big part of my corporate career was sort of translating the ivory white tower information to like people of the streets. so I feel like that's an important thing that gets overlooked. We have all these researchers or scientists or people who like nerd out so

deeply and then this translating into common vernacular is something that needs to get done. Ben does that really well with Keto Camp, talks about fasting in that way. And that's always sort of a nice thing. The one thing also I want is like, what's missing? That's what I want to talk about. can I go back to the fasting panel though? sure. Yeah. Well, A, it was hosted by Lauren Sanbataro, Biohacker Babes. Yeah, we love her. And we love Renee, Renee Bells.

I just love what they're doing. I love how their podcast has evolved and developed and I feel like they've really found their voice. They each hosted a panel. I thought they really, again, they just hold the space so well for people to have a better conversation and they really kept their panels moving forward. And that was really, it's a good, if you've never run a panel. There is finesse. need to finesse. finesse and there is skill, especially with everybody up there. Maybe everybody wants to speak. Maybe everybody doesn't.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (33:07.492)
Not everybody loves to be on stage and speak. So sometimes you need to guide people like, can we go deeper on that? Is there a little bit more? We need to get some, make sure there's no dead air too, right? Nobody wants to step on each other's toes and you have a moment of being like, okay, we call you out. Yeah. Yeah. It's a live event. So again, you're trying to keep people awake, but they just did a great job. But in the fasting panel, I thought it was really interesting people talking about

the detrimental effects of a long-term fast three, five days, the idea that the microbiome would be extremely diminished in its diversity. they were like, everybody called it out as a danger of fasting. And I feel like Dr. Pompa and Ben both spoke to the fact that, yes, yes, life expands and contracts and there will be a low point in the diversity of your microbiome. And here you have a chance to rebuild that diversity on the other side of the fast.

Hence the reintroduction of what are you going to go back to after you cut food out for five days? You know, standard American diet, or you're going to use some prebiotics, a way to almost feed and reseed the microbiome to create a better diversity on the other side of that experience. just thought that was, you know, cause we can see an article in CNN and be like, fasting destroys microbiome. Right. And does it lose diversity? Yes. And

we have the chance to better rebuild after that, you know, hormetic stress or whatever you want to call it on the other side. I just thought that was great point of the fast, right? Is like to be a hormetic stressor for the body, which is also good when somebody in the audience asks about eating disorders and fasting. It's like something that needs to be addressed. Sure, there are plenty of men with eating disorders in the world, but also females, like maybe fasting isn't optimal for someone who's battling something like that. Mindy did a great job of talking about, you know, using fat bombs to break a fast and why, and then

We didn't quite get to it, but I've heard her speak before around when in a female's cycle is the best time to fast being the first five days, like day one bleed, first few days of when you have your period because you have the least amount of cravings, great time to fast, worst time to fast, you know, last four or five days before your period kicks in for various different reasons. Right. And so it's just nice to know that there are some experts like that speaking on behalf of lots of different styles of physiologies. And then the remembrance that we are all in the end of one.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (35:27.462)
experiment in this process. That panel was great because it also talked about like a hundred or a thousand years ago, were cycling our eating lifestyles and we were eating different things locally and we're having a time of fasting that was forced fasting because there wasn't food. And then we were having nuts and berries when there wasn't animal meat. And then when there's animal protein, we were carnivore. And so it's just how everything is in a big cyclical pattern. And nowadays we tend to sort of like

get on the trend and bang the drum. And it's like this absolutist thinking around nutrition and dieting is something that I'm reminded of. It just doesn't serve us. I think it doesn't serve us. Yeah. Even supplementing every day. Like there is a great validity to supplementing on a pulsed dose of an... We'll even see this in Western medicine that sometimes they will pulse dose certain medications, certain antibiotic therapies, but there is value to taking a break from things. until...

modern agriculture or farming, you didn't have zucchini Monday through Friday. You know, and we get so into, I'm the most guilty culprit in Whole Foods where I'm like, I have my like 10 to 12 vegetables that I always buy and I don't rotate. again, if we can be- Cruciferous, my goodness. So much cruciferous. So much cruciferous. So much. I will, you know, again, I will say that it was a great panel. Fasting was great.

Ben was amazing, Lauren and Renee both moderated wonderful. And I want to go back to your question. What was missing? What was missing? What was missing from the biohacking Congress? and Julia do a great job of pulling together lots of names and, you know, smarts into a room, lots of different brands into a room. But there's always, you know, there's always room to look at it and say, what would you have liked added to the mix? So, yeah, and again, I just want to reiterate Mick and Julia do an incredible job. It's not what anybody did wrong, but, you know, to go back and pull back and evaluate like,

How could the experience be? How could I take more away? I'll be honest with you, my first thing would be to like have less. Have less on the schedule as far as speaking. I would do more breaks. There's some like networking, maybe where people aren't leaving and coming back, networking like a mixer or something. Yeah, I mean, listen, yes, totally. Totally we could do that. There could be a, should be a social event for everybody, right? Whether it's the hotel or...

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (37:45.992)
You know, I often, we often grab a group of 25 of our favorite podcasters and we go off, we do a big meal like we did this time, which was amazing. If you're ever in Las Vegas, was it Sparrow and Wolf? Yeah, Wolf and Sparrow, Sparrow and Wolf. Sparrow and Wolf. It was incredible. was really good Incredible. One of the best like five dining experiences I think I've honestly had. It was amazing. A prefix and it was just organic and like whole foods and no gluten. And it was just amazing, amazing food. But

the idea that there's a big social experiment interaction integration. I would just say that there's so much information. It's like drinking from the fire hose. listen, you know, I was doing like you, was doing four interviews. I was on a panel. I was keynoting. I was running the amp coil booth. So two days, it was like, there's so much coming at me. I would just love a way to get more. And whether that's spacing out the speakers and

having a dedicated time where everybody goes in and we almost like close down the vendor booths and everybody goes in and listens and then we come out and we do like a little biohacking and oxygen. I don't know the ideal way to structure it. You know, it's challenging. You kind of want to let everybody, not everybody can be there for both days, full days. So I understand, you know, it's got to have a flow to it. But if there was a way to almost, I wonder if there's not, there's other events where I've been, there's been an app where they announced the speakers and you get a ping on your phone.

You're like, Freddie Kimmel is now speaking on magnetic fields and bio resonance. Don't miss him. Three minutes, Freddie Kimmel will be on the stage. No, it really was effective. It's actually MagnaWave, I'm speaking at MagnaCon in June in Louisville, Kentucky. So I really like they use this app and it let me know exactly when things were happening. They're like, we're going to deal with non-union fractures on the back hind leg of a horse. Get there. Don't miss it.

Yeah, I like that one. It's like pinging you on your phone to try to keep you on schedule, anything that can help that cause. And I think, too, like the experiential stuff is always, it's really a great way to connect with people at a different level. And I think there is a lot of experiential in the demo area, in the partners area, in the sponsor area, with the technology and the tools and the supplements and things that are out there. making it less about just having one-on-one experiences, but finding ways where people can have some experiential stuff together. Yeah. And like how that...

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (40:14.1)
You know, that's always like they're in lines the rub. That's always the how do you make an experience that multiple people can get in front of or involved in that maybe don't know each other or do know each other and they have something to take away that you always talk about, right? Because we'll talk about the show and talk about the fun things that went on and the good speakers. But when you like get in an ice bath with someone, that's like, you know, a whole different experience. And sometimes it's like, you know, we're we talked several times about putting cold exposure and experiences at.

Congress. know there's challenges a lot of times with like carpeted hotels and where do you put the that would have been a nightmare in Las Vegas. It would have been nightmare. Especially the Excalibur. Yeah, totally. Let's be real. But putting a nice valve, it's like, know, Paleo FX comes up in the end of April. They have an outdoor area and actually can, they haven't done cold live experiences before. And now this year I finally get the chance to go and coach some people through the cold and give an experience that, you know, boosts oxytocin, boosts the mood chemicals and

bliss chemicals in your brain gets people sort of bonded and excited and socialing, know, Instagram stories and pictures. And there's some of that that I think the experiential comes from that makes it feel more like a friend, a gathering of friends than a conference. So there's a balance point there. Yeah. 100%. I like that actually when you were saying that, what could you do differently at a show like this?

it almost be like a five minute highlight section in which everybody's on the event floor and you could just go, you could literally give each booth be like five minutes, tell me about your thing. You know, whether it's the hydrogen generator, whether it was amp coil, whether it was rapid release, was that massage gone, I really love that massage. I just didn't, I didn't pull the trigger.

It was great. I looked over at one point, I was like at the amp coil table and I looked over at one point and Freddie had a massage gun in his own hand doing his own leg. He had like a woman at the booth doing his back and then like some other woman at the booth. Just, you know, he was like, ladies, ladies, who else can get a massage percussor or massage gun on me? But you seem to be enjoying yourself. I think there's a few photos of that. I think there's a video. I think there's a live video. Yeah, you know, there's there's so many ways you could change the experiments.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (42:22.304)
You know, because you are, you're out there, you got your body, you got to get it on your body, right? And feel, like I said, I said experiment and I meant that. It's like, what's the rapid release feel like? What's the difference between a vibration massage gun and a percussive gun? You know, it's again, it's hard to know unless you get a couple of rounds at it. That's why the two day show is great. Yeah. And I like this quick fire challenge idea. You know, this like riff on the quick fire challenge, is two minutes elevator pitch.

It can be five minutes. That just starts to feel like it could end up being long. You know, when you give someone two minutes on a clock and you make it like fun and celebratory, like get through two minutes. OK, great. Thirty seconds. Next person. Next person. There's like 30 second break to switch the next partner, sponsor or person involved. That's sort of like, you know, can go horribly left or horribly right or beautifully left or beautifully right. And so people get to share a little bit of what everything's about, tease out what's happening. It's like I missed.

I saw Pavel's session, I missed the other gentleman who was doing breath work. I really wanted to see in the morning as I was getting things set up and whatnot. But if someone had been like, my goodness, this person's on right now, I might have run out of set up for a little while to say, Bryant Wood's on. Okay, he's opening with breath work. Let me go get some of Bryant Wood. Yeah, it was great. And I love that they had a really nice, they were filming podcast interviews with a Zoom H6, which is what I use. That's why we sound so sultry.

and a black magic camera. So I got to sit down with Quantified Bob and Victor from Lightwater. Yeah, I with him too. It's great. had two totally different interviews about the same topic with the same person, which I kind of dig on that. Yeah. So there'll be additional, you know, as a podcast where you get to sit down and you get to really just pull some great interviews. And... Don Moxley. Sat down with Don Moxley. Sat down with Don Moxley. One more shout out to Don.

At any rate, so we said we were going to do 30 minutes. We're at 45. we got to go. We got to go. We're actually going to do a paleo feast tonight with Miss Molly McLaughlin. Yes, and her paramour. And her paramour. We're to go to True Food Kitchen in Vegas. So that's on the docket. Any closing thoughts? My closing thought is when you're traveling and you're on the road, think two key important.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (44:41.516)
takeaways I continue to be reminded of. Let's just say three, actually, I'll make them quick. Number one, get yourself outside every day. A bit of sunshine on the skin, as naked as you can if you're in a place like Vegas and get sunlight in your eyes in the morning. That really helps sort of just balance your day. You were really good about saying, let's go outside. Let's get some time outside. Carrying snacks. You you never know what you're going to get. I actually thought the lunches were great. I had to Excalibur like salmon.

It's very paleo and obviously they curate. Sometimes you go to these events and the food is not in alignment with health and wellness. And that can be shocking. So I think they did a great job on food, but carrying snacks so that you can have other things when you're on the go. Meat bars. We ate epic out of meat bars this weekend. you know, checking in on that. And then the last thing I would say is like, I have this great new pair of blue blocking glasses. I did not do a great job of bringing them to the show. I use them at night from Viva Rays. has like three magnetic lenses. have the

daytime lenses, the midday lenses and the pre-sleep lenses and I could have done a better job utilizing them at the show. I kept snapping my fingers and saying, damn, I wish I had those with me. Because the junk light in the casinos is no, boy no. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. The air quality in the casinos. my God. mean, I got to, God. Smoking is still allowed. of my hat to you, Vegas, if you can live here and you can thrive, I'm just, yeah, it's tough, you know, and

moved a couple of hotel rooms due to mold, moved due to- I think you need to give a shout out to the hotel we're in right now. Yeah, Virgin Hotels, which is the old- Hard Hard rock in Did both have party histories in? Yeah, I mean, I was here in 2011. It was just like total MTV spring break and it's beautiful. Working stations, office, beautiful co-working spaces, great.

outdoor pool, a grounding pool with sand in it. yeah, if the next time I come back for a conference, there will be no question where I say it will be the Virgin Hotel. No sponsorship there. They didn't ask us for that plug, but listen. The food was good. Everything. I mean, they have a little shop that's reasonably priced, which you never get in Vegas. Even the minibar things in the room are like just in check. It's not like, yeah. I mean, I the best hamburger of my life last night here.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (46:59.052)
Yeah, I can't even believe it. It's unexpected. Glory. Yeah, there's a Dunkin Donuts, which I know everybody's gonna say, Duncan. Duncan actually has a really clean coffee bean and they make a great Americano that's totally acceptable. They had a numerous places to eat paleo downstairs and at least get whole foods, whole vegetables, a walking distance Chipotle, which we know if you're gonna eat fast food, it's probably the number one contender. There's a Fogata Chow down the street. Yeah, yeah.

Busy, busy. also, and I feel also like we got to give a shout out to Eric and the team at the craps table who really just took us under their wing and taught us how to play craps in this environment that I don't think we'd ever experienced. I mean, I'm not a huge gambler, but I've been dying to learn how to play craps or really understand the game better, right? Because I've probably blown on somebody's dice along the way, but it's really time to close it down. We're going to leave it there,

We are so grateful that you stopped in to listen to this podcast. again, the Biohacking Congress, check them out online because they have events coming up in Boston and Miami. And the vendors and the speakers are always changing and evolving. Yeah. Boston is June 12th and Miami is October 23rd. I won't be at Boston this time because I'm my breath and cold instructing SHRPA training, but October 23rd I'll be in Miami. Freddie will...

be at both just rocking all of his knowledge and loves hugs. Yeah. Do you want to tell people what the Sherpa thing is? You just sort of threw that out. I just threw it out, give myself a plug. Number one, if you want to find me, I have the WellPower podcast and you can listen. Probably just going to release this on both platforms. Hashtag by Viking besties. number two, yes, Sherpa, breath and cold instructor.

training is in full effect. I launched it two months ago, super excited about it. There's a lot of good buzz in the marketplace. I feel blessed that that is happening. And I have a training every month all around the country, one in May, one in June, July, August. And it is your opportunity if you are interested in instructing breath work and cold exposure and both to come and learn from me. I've put a lot of time, effort, and have a lot of passion around this space for optimal wellness and performance enhancement.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (49:13.647)
Yeah. And if you just from some I've seen Kristen do cold exposure and breath and there's nobody better in the business. She's flown all over the country. She'll short herself, but to Finland and trained in multiple workshops and she's done this for years and years and years. Very fluent on every ice technology that's out there, whether it's, you know, getting your own bathtub set up or buying a container or using like the Cadillac of ice baths known as Morosco for it. She is very versed in all.

And she's such a great technician and so skilled at facilitating this. So if you're looking to up level your coaching practice, whatever it is, or your fitness center with breath and ice, you know, she flies in for the weekend and does this training. it's, mean, listen, it's going to be something that will put you head and shoulders above the competition and your local municipality, as I like to say. So jump on that and check out our site. Cause it's really, really, really good.

That leads into one last thing, which is if you are a home user or want to be a home user of cold, putting cold exposure into your life as a non-instructor is like a super important practice. Yeah. And I'm pretty impressed by your wish while we're being impressed by each other. I'm pretty impressed by your whole engineering background and setup of the ice barrel that you've done. And then you filmed with John and you should people who are listening should get in on that if they want some kind of home setup that's good for a small space and easy and well done and clean.

That whole setup is, it's a great rig. So you should put the link in the show notes to that rig. Yes. When that is ready, I will. Oh, look, I'm like, I'm supposed to be a surprise. I've talked about it before. have an ice bath in the backyard that maintains itself at anywhere between 37 and like 46 degrees, depending on how hot it is in Austin, Texas, but it ozonates the water and it chills it and it filters it. And I haven't changed it in over eight months. So it just...

ice on demand when I want it for a really fair price point. And I would say it would fit in an urban environment easily. Yeah. That's the great thing about the ice barrel is it's small quarters. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm working with the guys at Penguin Chiller to set up a kit where you can just get everything that I did and go to work. Go Tim, the tool man, Taylor, which we actually quoted in the podcast. like, we're like Alan, Tim. Thank God I'm in my 30s still. Yeah. Yeah. Me too.

Freddie Kimmel and Kristin Weitzel (51:32.835)
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for being with us. This is Kristen Whitesell. This is Freddie Kimmel. This is the Beautifully Broken Podcast, and this is probably the Well Power Podcast. And again, thank you, thank you, thank you. Namaste.

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