How Silver-Based Innovation Is Shaping the Future of Health & Skincare

WELCOME TO EPISODE 251

Today on the Beautifully Broken Podcast, I’m joined by Steve Revelli of American Biotech Labs—a trusted voice and formulator behind the cutting-edge Silver Biotics product line. We explore the multi-layered benefits of silver nanoparticles, including their powerful antimicrobial action that spares your natural flora while defending against pathogens like MRSA and VRE. Steve breaks down the difference between ionic and colloidal silver, dispels myths, and reveals why parts per million matter far less than particle structure.

Whether it’s boosting immunity, healing wounds, or enhancing recovery with clean, natural ingredients, silver is showing up as a hero product for families, athletes, and anyone wanting a low-cost, high-impact health tool. This is more than hype—this is healing through science, clarity, and intention. Tune in and discover how to empower your body with silver.

Episode Highlights

[02:10] - Steve Revelli’s journey from education to silver formulation at American Biotech Labs
[04:55] - How silver works as both a preservative and an antimicrobial
[07:01] - The science behind silver nanoparticles and their unique coating
[13:26] - Why Silver Biotics outperforms high ppm ionic silver products
[15:52] - Real-world applications of Armor Gel for burns, cuts, and even fungal infections
[22:08] - Silver Biotics in athletic programs and hospital burn units
[26:28] - Silver’s role in immune support and the power of daily microdosing
[30:07] - How the Recovery Cream uses hyaluronic acid and silver for transdermal healing
[33:55] - Upcoming product lines and oral care innovations
[39:51] - Real talk on misinformation, regulation, and why silver deserves a second look
[45:12] - Unexpected uses: nasal sprays, ice baths, and biohacking applications
[51:06] - The daily regime that keeps Steve (and me) thriving

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 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel (00:01.214)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the beautifully broken podcast. are here with Steve Rivelli from American Biotech Labs. Welcome back to the show.

Steve (00:10.766)
Well, thank you for having me again. I know we've talked, it was been some time since we've had chance to chat.

Freddie Kimmel (00:17.182)
I know, and the world keeps going, right?

Steve (00:19.602)
faster and faster.

Freddie Kimmel (00:21.852)
It is so wild. When I said that, was like, I think it's been over two years since we've had you on the show.

Steve (00:29.7)
Yeah, yeah, so much has happened since then.

Freddie Kimmel (00:32.672)
There's so much has happened and I mean, I love the technology, but Steve, I have used Silver Biotics in everything, every onion layer you can imagine in my life. Anything from the immune support to the toothpaste, to the muscle recovery gel, to the wound gel, which has been, it saved me and friends 15 times, severe sunburns.

putting my hand in a fire, touching my mocha pot to my stomach where I literally just stupid move in the morning, but I reach for silver biotics so often. It's so interesting and it's so effective. So I just, I want to give you guys just a little bit of praise.

Steve (01:03.706)
Ha

Steve (01:21.272)
Well, thank you. know I use it almost on a daily basis myself. Lately, I've been doing a lot of workout in the yard and blisters and all kinds of stuff. at night, I just go ahead and put a little gel on it in the morning. It's good to go again. So yes, that's for sure.

Freddie Kimmel (01:41.92)
Give us, just because it's been a chunk of time since you've been with the podcast audience, tell us how you support Silver Biotics and what your role is there.

Steve (01:53.016)
My role in the company is, well, a little bit of background about me. I'm a retired educator. So I've been in education for, well, I retired 10 years ago from public education, but I still teach some organic chemistry classes at the university here. And so when I retired, the company owners, the Molar said, well, why don't you come work for us? We got some for you to do. So I said, okay, all right, fine.

So I work full-time, part-time, whenever, it's a great job for me. So I go in and I do quality to make sure everything is what it should be, our silver manufacturing. And I've also been a formulator. So I've been formulating a bunch of products for private labels and a bunch of new and upcoming products for ABL.

Freddie Kimmel (02:45.014)
Amazing and when we talk about American biotech labs and silver biotics clearly you guys work with Silver as one of the agents of change for that is incorporated in all these products. So Why would we use silver in a product whether it's for our skin or our immune health?

Steve (03:07.268)
You know, it's interesting. mean, silver has, you know, centuries and centuries of history. And we actually use the silver in two basic methods. We use it as an active antimicrobial, but we also are been using it as a preservative in our formulations instead of using those other nasty chemicals, the sorbates and the benzoates and the phenolxanols, you know, that are toxic. And well, they have to be toxic because they're supposed to kill.

you know microbes but the silver we found out is not toxic and it still does the same job as those other preservatives

Freddie Kimmel (03:45.246)
And how does silver function in such a way? If we can review that mechanism of action, how does it do that?

Steve (03:53.038)
Silver has a few modes of action. And of course the obvious one is that the silver that we produce is a very special type of silver. And we can go into the structure of it a little bit later. But what it does is it has three main modes of action. And one of the modes of action is that bacteria, especially pathogenic bacteria,

are actually quite fragile in comparison to non-pathogenic bacteria. mean, your normal flora and fauna that's in your mouth and your gut, and lives in your body as a probiotic, those are pretty hardy. But pathogenics, they are actually quite fragile. And so the silver actually attacks them in a couple of different ways. It actually will, as it touches the outside cell membrane,

of the microbe, it will actually start to disassemble that membrane. And so it will pump a hole in it and, you know, basically, you know, lice the cell that way. Also, those bacteria, for some reason, they like to take things in to see what's there. And once they take those silver particles in, the silver actually gets in the way of the cell reproduction and stops the cells from reproducing.

Freddie Kimmel (05:17.334)
Amazing. I'm pretty clear on this, but tell me how the role of something that is able to steal electrons. I like the phrase, everybody wants your electrons, and that is a part of life, specifically plant life. But how does a silver, specifically the nanoparticle that you guys are working with, take electrons from things, and how does that play into something's life cycle?

Steve (05:28.686)
Yeah.

Steve (05:41.722)
Well, let's go ahead and talk about the particle then. The particles that we produce are between five and 15 nanometers on the average. And so it is a nanoparticle. you nanoparticles have gotten a really bad rap lately, especially in the EU. For some reason, Europeans have gone crazy about anything nano. Don't know why. They've done some really good work with their foods, you know, with, you know, different taking toxins out of their foods, but for all nanoparticles, yeah.

you know, that I don't know why they're going there. But our nanoparticle is actually created from pure silver, as pure as you can get silver. We take silver wire that is four to five nines, which is the purest form of silver you can get. And we take that and we put it under a high voltage, very, very high voltage, thousands of volts. And what that voltage does in the presence of water is it actually strips away these silver particles, these metallic silver particles.

And of course we're in the presence of oxygen because of our environment and it coats it with a silver oxide coating. It's a special silver oxide coating. It's actually called tetrasilver tetraoxide. So there's four silver atoms and four oxygen atoms that makes up this crystal on the outside of the metallic silver core. And the silver for some really cool reason that, you know...

We don't know why, but the silver atoms actually are different from each other. One of them is what we call a plus one silver ion, and the other one's a plus three silver ion. And so it turns out that they're not balanced. And the only way they can be balanced is by transferring electrons back and forth from each silver ion. The oxygens are actually there to kind of stabilize everything. So once those silver ions touch

something else and you know, a microbe for example, a pathogenic microbe, it will actually start transferring the electrons away from the microbe and electrons of course is basically it holds matter together. It's what holds us together, chemical bonds are the electrons. And so once it starts to steal those electrons from the microbe, it starts to basically fall apart. The microbe starts to fall apart and the silver actually becomes more stable.

Freddie Kimmel (08:04.756)
Yeah, it's so interesting to think about. Everything's math. know, math and science. really, it just kind of, my brain starts to travel down these different thought processes around this tetra silver, tetra oxide with a plus one and a plus three and how that has a unique mechanism of action in the body. Now, the silver you're working with,

Steve (08:10.394)
Math and Science.

Freddie Kimmel (08:31.986)
is different from, if I go over to Whole Foods, there might be 10 different products that I can pull off the shelves that say they have a silver product that has some health benefit associated. How are the two different?

Steve (08:46.916)
Well, that's a huge story, it really is. Most products that you see in stores and online are called colloidal silver. And the truth is that they're not true colloids. A true colloid actually is suspended particles. Now I'm gonna call them particles, not atoms. They're suspended particles that are in suspension, in suspension, and I guess another keyword here, in a solution, okay?

in some type of a water, basically, purified water. Unfortunately, what you see in stores is you see ionic silver. So those are silver atoms, not silver particles. Silver atoms are very, very small. They're usually a quarter to half a micron, or not a micron, excuse me, a nanometer. And so they're very, very small.

and they are just basically single silver atoms, usually with a plus one charge and they are stable with a plus one charge. And so that's the way they like to be. So for example, you can take a chemical called silver nitrate. It's very widely, it's out there. You can pretty much get it everywhere and you can dissolve that in water. And then you have a silver solution, not a colloid. And because they are single silver ions,

suspended in water. And so it's called a solution. It's not a true colloid. And the problem with silver ions, what they found out over time, is that they tend to, in large quantities, they tend to build up in the adipose tissues in our bodies. And of course people have heard of the blue man, you know, turning blue or turning gray, and he's actually from Utah, from the state where I'm from.

Freddie Kimmel (10:30.377)
Hmm

Steve (10:40.536)
And it's interesting because he would take massive doses of thousands of parts per million of these silver ions and drink them. Well, it turns out that it's not really toxic to the human body even at that point, but it does get in the adipose tissues in the body. And of course, then it reacts with ultraviolet radiation from the sun and you actually are a photographic film and you turn blue and silver. So that's, know.

It's kind of not where you want to be, of course.

Freddie Kimmel (11:13.436)
Of course, of course, but in your saying just to give scope, you're saying that obviously that's an extreme case. Those are extreme outliers. And you said high quantities. What do mean by that?

Steve (11:24.282)
Yes, thousands and thousands of parts per million. I've seen ionic solutions on the internet that are 10,000 parts per million. That is just an absurd amount of silver that you would ever want to put in or on your body. We actually, in our silver particles, we do what these other companies do with only 10 to 35 parts per million, and that's it.

We don't need to go into the hundreds or thousands of parts per million. We've done head-to-head studies, kill rate studies on bacteria, pathogens, as well as probiotics. We found out that if you take any silver above 40 parts per million, you are probably going to harm your probiotics as well. It'll start killing the good bacteria that you have inside your body.

But we do the same kill rates, if not better, with that low parts per million than these other companies do with thousands and hundreds of parts per million. And so that's a real benefit for our product.

Freddie Kimmel (12:34.302)
And that's because you're saying that can happen from a physics standpoint because of that tetrasilver, tetraoxide, that coating, that AG404. It's really, we're talking just for the consumer, we're talking about a different toolbox, right? We're a different tool in the toolbox.

Steve (12:50.104)
Yeah, silver ion, it's a one and done. It's one and done. So second it bumps into a bacteria, that silver ion is done where the silver particle has millions and millions of these tetra silver, tetra oxide complexes on the coating as a coating for the metallic core of our silver product. And so it just keeps going and going and going. Eventually it will wear out. But also the nice thing about

Freddie Kimmel (12:54.472)
It's done working the second it bumps into a bacteria.

Steve (13:19.98)
our silver is that it actually will exit the body within 24 to 72 hours depending on your body type. And so it comes in, it does its job and it leaves. doesn't stay in the body.

Freddie Kimmel (13:34.324)
Yeah, thank you for that clarity. Cause I think just from a consumer standpoint, just, was John, a video with Dr. Shivani Gupta. We were just talking about how the, the, the prevalence right now is that people are just coming in very overwhelmed and you hear something on a podcast, but there's not, there's not information to put it on your terrain. Where does it fit for me? So I just want to recap for the audience is that the silver particle that we're using,

in silver biotics is small. It's five to 15 nanometers and it's in, it's actually, bigger than a normal silver particle, but it's in a lower quantity. So we're 10 to 35 parts per million where we might see brands up to 10,000 parts per million. And then those brands are the second they bump into a bacteria, that electronics change, it's like spent cash. We don't have any more juice to play with. Whereas the nanoparticle,

because of the shape and the coding can continue working and stealing and exchanging electrons with, well, let's call them non-beneficial friends within the body. Yeah, very, very helpful. Cause I just, think it's really, again, I want people to be able to do this for themselves. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to Steve. Take the information as a jumping off point where you begin your education and say, you know, why would I do this? So if we can pivot there, Steve, why,

Steve (14:39.908)
There you go.

Freddie Kimmel (15:00.34)
Why would some... Now you guys have a lot of products. So maybe we can pick something. Maybe we can pick something. Let's start with the armor gel, the burn cream, which I've just had, you know, sunburn... Wicked sunburns in Hawaii the next morning. was... Wasn't still red. It was a tan. It was completely gone. The multiple burns. And then actually I just had like a... I had like a foot fungus from the gym or something like that on my heel.

both heels, it was really pronounced, two days, gone. It'd be completely normal skin. Let's talk about the armor gel and again, why we would want to use that as a therapeutic and then how the silver comes into play at helping that is a wound recovery.

Steve (15:49.018)
Yeah, and wound recovery is a science, know, and the good news is that we've done all the research. We've done the research on the cytotoxicity, the skin sensitivity. We've done all that research and we have the FDA claims to back that up on our 510 case. And so we have that information. with a wound, you got to remember what a wound is. A wound is usually, it's going to be first degree, second degree or third degree wound on our skin, which is the largest organ in the body, of course.

a is that you have cell damage across a void. We'll call it a void. And so if it's the epidermal cells going down to the dermal cells, whatever the case might be, the job of those cells now is to basically migrate. They actually move across that void and fill in that void and reproduce the structures of the skin.

the whole, you know, the all the layers of the skin. So how does Armour Gel help with that? Well, Armour Gel is, you know, acts as kind of a barrier because what gets in the way of those migrating cells is dirt and dust and what and of course all those, you know, contain bacteria, know, fungus and moles.

And so you end up with the bacteria infiltrating that wound bed and it starts to actually kill the cells that are trying to heal the wound. So what ArmourGel does is it acts as a barrier, number one. And number two, it kills all of those microbes and allows your own cells to do what they're supposed to do much more efficient and rapid.

Freddie Kimmel (17:21.205)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (17:33.974)
Now, typically when I was growing up and I grew up on a farm and I would, oh goodness, one time I ran through a rusty old barbed wire, you know, it went right into my leg. And so we went home and we got, we got Neosporin. You know, that, that was like in the cabinet. That was our go-to for when we had a cut. You want to, do you want to try to help that, that wound heal quicker? How is Neosporin different or, or a gel, a tri, that's a triple antibiotic therapy, I think.

Steve (17:42.404)
Ooh.

Steve (18:02.042)
All right, TBM.

Freddie Kimmel (18:02.282)
How is that different from something like an armor gel?

Steve (18:06.21)
It's an antibiotic. And of course antibiotics, the worst thing that can happen with antibiotics of course is you can get antibiotic resistance. Even Neosporin can get antibiotic resistance to some bacteria with, know, with MRSA, with VRE. I mean, if you can end up with a MRSA skin cell wound, you're in trouble. The nice thing about silver is it has no antibiotic resistance possible.

They've done the research and up to this point in time, I mean, who knows what happens in the future, but up to this point in time, there is no antibiotic resistance to silver whatsoever. And so with putting that on a wound, it actually will, you know, stay there and you can reapply it. The problem with antibiotics is it's kind of a one and done with antibiotics as well. I mean, it's toxic, right? It's a toxin. That's what it does. It kills things.

And so there is of course some cytotoxicity with the skin cells as well. But what it does is it kills bacteria, yeast and molds, but it does it and it wears itself out. We did the studies where we put neosporin up against our armor gel and it turns out that neosporin actually wears out and doesn't do its job after about 12 hours. The antibiotic is just, it's gone, it's wasted.

and it's all used up. whereas our armor gel can stay there for, you know, 24 hours or until you, you know, re-clean the wound and reapply it. So that's probably the biggest difference is, is that the antibiotics actually, well, and it turns out that what we found out was is that the matrix that the antibiotics is in is usually petroleum jelly, something like that. And after a while, it turns out that it will actually start to harbor

Freddie Kimmel (19:46.774)
Mm-hmm.

Steve (20:01.946)
the microbes, the pathogens, instead of actually killing them.

Freddie Kimmel (20:04.459)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. It's, again, one of the best performing products I've seen. I'm continually amazed by it. Have you guys partnered with any, I just think high school sports, I think basketball, soccer, wrestling, you know, cause we, this is a prevalent thing. I often hear about kids who have a season ending cuts that turn into a, an antibiotic resistant.

um, strain in their knee. had a friend who was a Broadway dancer. They started to just cut pieces off of her quad because they got to that point where they were taking away tissue. Um, how, and so today VRE, MRSA it, it, from my understanding, what you're saying, it cannot become resistant to something like armor gel.

Steve (20:38.842)
Yeah.

Steve (20:53.37)
That is correct. That is correct. In my past life, when I was an educator in public education, I also coached. I coached track and field and cross country for 30 years. And it was probably about, and I was kind of working part-time for ABL during my last probably 10 years of coaching. And I would actually, you know, have boxes of gel and stuff laying around and you know,

They had something I'd say, here, try this and see if it works. We also did some testing with the wrestling team and know, wrestling mats, yeah. we've, cauliflower here, yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (21:35.424)
Brutal. mean cauliflower look at wrestlers and my recollection of cauliflower here this guy says his grand being fungal infections going on.

Steve (21:44.098)
And what we would do is we'd actually spray our 35 parts per million silver solution on the wrestling mats and disinfect it.

Freddie Kimmel (21:53.556)
Yeah, brilliant. Brilliant. I just think this is like a great call to action. If you're a mom and you have kids and they get dirty and they get cut and they're out there playing sports, it's a great thing to have in the cabinet. You don't need to wait to order some of these things when stuff goes sideways. That's my big, just have it in the toolkit because more often than not,

Steve (21:54.702)
And it worked.

Freddie Kimmel (22:19.786)
You know, I'm not going along, like, I wonder when I'll need armor gel, you know, in the next three weeks. But it happens. I'll tell you one thing, go ahead.

Steve (22:28.346)
Well, just as a case in point, I have grandkids. so grandkids fall down, they get hurt, whatever, know. And I had a grandkid crash his bike the other day and he really tore up his nose. And he came running into the house. We happened to be visiting, he came running to the house. Mom, mom, I need gel, I hurt my nose. And so they are well-practiced in the use of the product and they love it, it works.

Freddie Kimmel (22:55.734)
Amazing amazing. Um, let's pivot to the immune support Which is again, this is more something that we're probably gonna we're gonna walk into a Whole Foods We're gonna get on Amazon. We're gonna say oh, there's a silver. There's a silver immune support. Everybody's kind of got the same claims You mentioned the immune support. Can you tell people how that is how that is used how it's dosed? What it what it looks like when you're using it a lifestyle in a routine?

Steve (23:24.888)
Yes, yeah, for sure. The immune support, does the same thing that the gel does for the most part. It has the same particles of silver in it. And our immune support is only 10 ppm because that's all people need is 10 parts per million. We do a health max that is 30 parts per million in case there is a really hardcore infection going on. And so we can use that.

but our dosage is just basically three teaspoons a day and morning, noon and night. And it does what it's supposed to do. And that is it gets into your system and it kills pathogenic or those non-beneficial organisms. And it does that. And so what it does, we all carry what we call a bioload. And in our guts, even in your blood, you have these non-beneficial microbes.

everywhere and it's up to our immune system to keep those in check and so your immune system can recognize them and then go ahead and rid the body of them. So what the immune support does is it supports the immune system by doing the immune system's job and so it cuts down on that pathogenic bioload in and on the body so the immune system can be more efficient when it needs to be.

Freddie Kimmel (24:48.202)
Yeah. And you know, again, I like that makes sense to me. So in an indirect way, it's possible that supporting the immune system is also helping with energy because we've freed up. However, silver is not, from my understanding, it's not part of the metabolic process in the body. Silver is not supporting the process of making energy anywhere. Is that correct?

Steve (25:15.64)
That is correct. Silver has no known metabolic pathway in our bodies. No known metabolic pathway. it doesn't, I mean, think about the other metals that are in your body. Iron. yeah, for sure. Copper, zinc, magnesium, calcium, potassium. Those are metals that have metabolic pathways, critical metabolic pathways in the body.

Silver has none. doesn't interfere with your metabolism whatsoever. And so it does one thing, and it takes care of non-beneficial organisms.

Freddie Kimmel (25:53.738)
I have question for you. I've heard of this. Are you aware of any clinics who have used silver as an infusion as far as a delivery method?

Steve (26:07.374)
You know, we hear rumors and we hear things about a lot of off-label type of uses for our silver. And the wonderful thing about those things is that there is no known bad adverse reactions to doing anything with our silver. And so that's one thing that's really nice, because we would probably hear about those for sure.

But we've had no adverse reactions to any off-label things that we've heard of.

Freddie Kimmel (26:41.782)
Yeah. It's interesting. was a, I'm pretty sure it was in Utah. There was a guy who was developing a protocol, um, primarily using silver IVs for a chronic Lyme infection. And I've actually, have his name somewhere. He's, he's on a list for me to talk to, but I hear it, you know, again, I haven't seen, I haven't seen data that looked at the efficacy of that. And certainly I just want to separate any, anything we're saying here on this interview, we're not, we're not making a medical claim. It's really just, I want to

Steve (26:53.53)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (27:11.274)
curious I want to have the conversation. The methodology of taking three teaspoons daily at this and we said the normal you said is 10 parts per million.

Steve (27:26.19)
Yeah, the normal is 10 parts per million. And we've done, yeah, right. And we've done the human ingestion study. We've done human ingestion studies where you take the silver and it turns out that the best way to get the silver into your body is sublingually. And so you just hold it in your mouth as long as you can hold it in your mouth and the silver particles actually go into your system then. But the human ingestion study was actually amazing that we saw this silver.

Freddie Kimmel (27:26.87)
10 parts per million is good support.

Steve (27:54.414)
We saw where it was in the body, we saw where it wasn't in the body, and we saw it leave the body as well. So it does, it goes basically everywhere into the body.

Freddie Kimmel (28:04.212)
Yeah, how do you visualize that? And how is, that's so interesting.

Steve (28:06.902)
yeah, it was, it it was, take samples. So you take your blood samples, urine samples, fecal samples. And so you do that over a period of time after you ingest it and then take samples to find out where the silver is.

Freddie Kimmel (28:23.816)
Amazing. Let's pivot to one more. The other thing that I've been really impressed with and I'd be interested to know some of the mechanisms of action is the recovery cream, which is kind of a new product. I want to say in the last year, year and a half, and it's a relatively easily applied cream I've been using at post workouts. What I've noticed is, I think I'm getting

Steve (28:36.409)
Mm.

Freddie Kimmel (28:52.884)
I think I'm getting movement in my lymphatics from using the recovery gel. Can you talk a little bit about the different elements in that and again, why silver is in there and then some of the other beneficial herbs that are included?

Steve (29:06.604)
Right, yeah, and I don't have the list in front of me, but I know it's kind of a long list of ingredients. But Kelly designed one of our people here, she designed the recovery cream. And it has ingredients in it, number one, to get it into your skin and get it deep in the skin. It has hyaluronic acid in it. And the nice thing about it was we found out with research that nobody really knows is that if you use different

types of hyaluronic acid, you can actually get things transgermally quite easily into the skin. And so that's kind of a little trade secret that we have that a lot of people don't know about hyaluronic acids. There's different types and there's different types for different uses. But along with that, with the glucosamine and the different types of essential oils that are in there, that it's basically designed.

to be transdermal, to get into your skin, to get into your joints and into the muscle fibers and to support those and help those heal as well as if you have injury or whatever the case might be.

Freddie Kimmel (30:20.598)
Yeah, I noticed, you know, especially really long hikes that I've done. If I really crushed leg day and we're going to get those typically for me, it's like 24, 48 hours after the workout. get terrible, like just delayed onset muscle soreness when you just push a lot of weight. And that's been, I can say it's probably cut in half when I have the cream and I do it after the workout and continue just to, again, I, I'm pretty sure I'm getting, I just noticed like.

Steve (30:21.987)
Ahem.

Steve (30:36.41)
you

Freddie Kimmel (30:48.554)
The way the tissue holds fluid after a workout is different when I'm using the Silver Strong, the recovery cream.

Steve (30:55.662)
Well, it's interesting because you know the basics, know, like I see hot and all those, you know, different muscle creams that are out there. They have, they only have one purpose and that is to irritate the skin. That's where you get that icy hot feeling is because they're irritants and we have some of those in there for sure. Cause you need to get the blood flow to the surface of the skin and then you can get, you know, transdermal, you know, reception, you know, through other chemicals that goes in there.

Freddie Kimmel (31:07.53)
Mm-hmm.

Steve (31:24.76)
So what we've done with the recover is we've done that with a high uronic acid and some of the, know, the menthol and the methyl salicylate. We've actually been able to really perform by transdermal induction into those other chemicals, which are really good. The CoQ10, the glucosamine, all of those ones that go into their systems and help support those systems.

Freddie Kimmel (31:49.866)
Yeah, mean, I just, I had this on my list here. Things like it has Boswellia extract. There are essential oil blends like eucalyptus and clove. There are two forms of hyaluronic acid, vitamin E, magnesium, camphor, menthol, jojoba oil, arnica, and then 20 parts per million of the silver solution, which is really, what I tell people is that,

For sure, there's muscle creams and soreness creams and recovery creams, but this one's really clean. Like it's a really good list of ingredients, most being therapeutic. Some herbal base, obviously have the silver in there and the hyaluronic acid, but it's just, feels like less of a band-aid to me and more of a therapeutic to work me forward after I've pushed it a little too hard.

Steve (32:42.138)
Yeah, exactly. And that's what it's designed to do. Kelly, she gave it kind of a, she says, I want it to be kind of spa-like, you know, and the odor is kind of spa-like as well. It's not so off-putting as some of those other, you know, muscle creams like, whoa, you just came from the gym or something like that, you know? And so she's done a really good job with developing that muscle cream and it does work.

Freddie Kimmel (33:07.818)
Yeah, that's fun. you, let me ask you this, are you working on anything new that you can talk about yet that's not come out?

Steve (33:15.066)
Yeah, we are. Kelly's putting together a whole notice, she's calling it notice, and it's a cosmetic line with cleansers and with toners and some different lotions and creams. And so she's putting that together and that's coming. We're in test mode right now, finishing up the formulations.

And our other one that we're working on is for our wound care regime. mean, what we want to do is if you have a wound, we want to help you heal that wound. But then there's aftercare. And a lot of people don't understand about aftercare. Aftercare is very important for like scarring and skin sensitivity. And so if we can rebuild those layers of the tissue that are damaged properly, can...

know, minimize those other problems that are with wound healing. So we're developing a special cream, a barrier cream, unscented, and we're going through proper FDA channels to be able to make claims with that aftercare cream. So we'll have the whole wound care package put together.

Freddie Kimmel (34:31.36)
Yeah, I'll tell you the other thing I just want to mention on this interview and you know, I've got to, I got to figure out a careful way to release the content into the world because my YouTube channel has been the only time I've ever had an infraction is putting up a video where I mentioned something of silver biotics or I use the word silver. They literally pulled my channel down for two weeks. And from my experience as a, as a,

person who loves health and I'm very passionate about the empowerment education piece. I'm so vanilla. Like I watch what people post and I'm like, I'm so vanilla, but they, there is something about the algorithm on YouTube that does not like the, the word silver specifically. It was cited as, medical misinformation, which it was, I was so frustrated because what we talked about is an FDA,

Steve (35:20.61)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (35:27.39)
approved when we're talking about a claim specifically armor gel i just want to mention that again that you guys have done the science the research it's validated you went through the proper regulatory channels to put this product out into the world

Steve (35:40.036)
Well, unfortunately, that's what you have is you have so much, you have some really bad products out there and that people are making claims with. so the regulatory people are very sensitive to that. with, yeah, mean, during COVID, some things, people are in prison because of what was said and done during COVID.

about different claims and some of them were silver products. And so there's been some people out there that have not been, that have done silver well whatsoever. And so there's, unfortunately that's the world we live in, but there is a lot of myths and information out there about silver and the different types of silver that are out there. Cause they're vastly different from each other. They really are the ionic silver.

versus a true colloid, they're just so much different from each other.

Freddie Kimmel (36:40.66)
Yeah, I mean, we can go all the way back to the adage of being born with a silver spoon in your mouth, which there were beneficial antibiotic properties to that, right? There were antimicrobial properties.

Steve (36:51.01)
Right, right. that's, yeah, I mean, people, that's just it. They were the royals, you know, the kings and the court and everything else. They did, you know, eat with silverware. And of course they would get a daily dose of silver just with eating with their utensils as well, which was a health benefit because, you know, during the plague years and things like that, back in medieval times, they were the ones that survived.

Freddie Kimmel (37:17.45)
Yeah. mean, I just, think it's, I mentioned that just to say, whoever hears this interview that, that we're, always coming to this place of like, we want to try to remove the polarization. want to put the information out there and then allow people to make the best possible decision for their body. And for me, this is like a technology that is light years ahead of any skin cream, any immune support, any post workout gel light years ahead.

because it is restorative, it does help the dermal layer, it does help with, you your skin line is great for beauty. And then we also have this other element where these antibiotic resistant microbes are a huge problem, both within, you know, in the hospital setting, as well as we just mentioned, like the school systems. And this solution is here, you know.

Steve (38:09.796)
Yeah, well actually our armor gel, we actually have a prescription part of the armor gel now it's called SilverStat. And SilverStat is now accepted on the Intermountain Healthcare's hospital system for burn care. And so it does, I mean, we're able to have, you know, take those same claims and now we're in hospital burn units because it does such a fabulous job.

Freddie Kimmel (38:36.33)
Yeah. Incredible. Incredible. My partner is going in for a procedure on Thursday and I, I am, that will be in my, that will be in my hospital kit. And we're definitely, we're definitely bringing that in. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just, I've seen nothing but great results from it. It's really fascinating again, that the, able to share this information, being able to talk about it. I know it's sometimes we talk things up. I'm very excitable when I find something that works, I run with it.

Steve (38:47.834)
Exactly.

Freddie Kimmel (39:06.065)
And it's been years and years and years that most people in my family are using this, whether it's, you know, whether it's the armor gel, whether it's the toothpaste or the immune support, it's incredibly safe. We, we talked, we gave our list of adverse reactions, which we did. It's blank. it's really like, again, and it's so affordable. Like that's what blows, you know, we talk about this, the technology, technological advancements of this cream.

American biotech labs, sounds like it's going to be like a hundred dollar bottle, but everything is so affordable. In fact, yeah, the muscle recover cream is, is 19 bucks for a massive tube. I'm still using my first tube. Still still using it. Yeah.

Steve (39:50.564)
You know, and the shelf life is amazing. mean, we have to put a shelf life on it because the FDA requires us to. But I got a tube of gel out of my closet the other day. It was like six, seven years old and it was still perfect. It was still pristine. know, it's a very stable product as well. You know, one thing I want to mention too is that lately we've had a lot of private labels in oral care. We're doing a lot of mouthwash right now.

with remineralizing with the silver in there. And people are going crazy over this, the mouth washes that we're producing on private label. So we might be seeing something for us in the near future for oral care besides our tooth gel, our toothpaste, we might be putting a mouthwash out there as well.

Freddie Kimmel (40:20.0)
Mmm.

Freddie Kimmel (40:41.334)
That's great. mean, you know, Dr. Nathan Bryant talks about that all the time. He's like, if this microbe environment within the mouth is also my biological dentists, if this is not right, we will have cardiovascular issues. We will have arthritis. We will have these systemic things because all of these teeth are directly wired to different organ systems. It's so important. I got a great bathroom stack right now. I have a toothbrush. Somebody sent me with red and blue light.

Steve (41:03.982)
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Freddie Kimmel (41:11.516)
in the toothbrush. And you know, I've got my toothpaste from Silver Biotics. then I've been doing, I just started reincorporating a tongue scraper. And man does it, you're just like, your mouth feels so clean and your gums, I mean, that's the big thing I noticed when I'm using the Silver, my gums just look, the gum pockets look healthier and I don't get any bleeding no matter how hard I brush my teeth.

Steve (41:12.889)
Steve (41:37.678)
Well, that's when I formulated the toothpaste. heavens, that's been eight, nine years ago I formulated the toothpaste and I went to the dentist because I have bleeding gums. I always had bleeding gums. And so I formulated toothpaste and I said, just start using it, you know? And the next year's checkup, the dentist asked me point blank. He says, what did you do? And I go, nothing. He says, well, you've been flossing? Yes. But what did you do? And I says,

well, I changed toothpaste. So I told him about the toothpaste and he says, well, your pockets are healed and there's no blood anymore when I go to clean your teeth. And I'm going, good. That's nice. And so he says, all right, you got to give me some. And so, you know, I gave him some toothpaste to use and it was absolutely amazing what the the year did in using the toothpaste. was great product.

Freddie Kimmel (42:36.342)
Mm-hmm. Amazing. Yeah, and I'll just, you we'll put a reminder at the beginning of the podcast, but the beautifully broken in the cart on any product is a massive discount. If I put in the armor gel at 24 bucks, I get $7.50 off. yeah, it's so great.

Steve (42:57.892)
Well, we appreciate that.

Freddie Kimmel (43:02.014)
It's like, tell people I'm like, of all the things I talk about, the biggest bang for your buck and the most affordable is Silver Biotics hand down. I mean, it's pennies on the dollar, you know, the immune support. if you just, I don't know, if you had to pick two products, would you like, all right, people, let's upgrade the terrain a little bit. Let's improve the microbial environment in your body. Let's change your skin quality. What would be, what would be your top two? I can let you do top three if you, if you.

Steve (43:09.656)
awesome.

Steve (43:25.784)
I gotta go three. I gotta get three. For me, it's the toothpaste for sure, the oral care, and then it was the wound care with the armor gel, and then of course, the immune support. I take the immune support every day. And it turns out that I may have some type of long COVID. They don't know yet for sure. But after I had COVID, I would get a simple cold and it would take literally months to clear out.

And so I thought, okay, we got to find out what's going on here. And so I started taking the immune supplement. And then when I start to feel that I take the Health Max and it goes from literally months of recovery to a couple of weeks of recovery like normal colds. So yeah, that's my three go-tos.

Freddie Kimmel (44:19.414)
It's a great reminder. It's a great reminder. I'll tell you the one that I've been using hard for the last six months, because I've been traveling here and there all over. been to like 15 events in the wellness space. I do the, I have the, I think it's a 10 part per million little snoot, little nasal bottle. And I hit it before I go on the plane and I hit it after. Not one show have I come home and got blasted with like some, you know, super bug, which

I'm around 5,000 people shaking hands and hugging everybody and you're up for ungodly hours and you're on a plane, know, all the air quality associated in the porf, you're in a food desert, you're just trying your best. But I haven't got sick from any of this last six months. I've been really strong. that's one thing that I believe, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's under the ounces that I can take it through.

Steve (44:56.126)
yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (45:17.044)
Security. don't think they take it away from me.

Steve (45:18.434)
It is. It's a two ounce bottle. And it turns out that we've kind of rebranded that. We actually call it nasal rinse now. So that's within the last, I think, three weeks, four weeks, about a month ago, you can actually buy it as, and it's under the label of nasal rinse.

Freddie Kimmel (45:22.356)
Yep. Yep. Yep.

Freddie Kimmel (45:27.817)
Okay.

Freddie Kimmel (45:32.544)
Okay.

Freddie Kimmel (45:38.932)
And why did you just because that's what it is because it is an ionic silver solution.

Steve (45:42.506)
It is, you know, we, yeah, before we just didn't really put any real label on it whatsoever, you know, no branding or anything else. it was just a vertical sprayer is what we call it. And we said, well, why that's what people are going to use it for. They're going to use it for a nasal rinse. So we actually have silver biotics nasal rinse now.

Freddie Kimmel (46:03.37)
Yeah. I'll tell you the other two funky places that I use it as I'll actually take the immune support and I'll put like a cup in my ice bath. And I let that, so my, don't change the water, but I don't know. It depends on how many people I have over in events and whatnot. But if I'm just using it, I can go two months. If I have a cup of silver in there and it just circulates, I've got a filter to get big particles, but the bacteria does not form. That's been a really cool one.

Steve (46:12.361)
yeah.

Steve (46:31.086)
Yeah, that's awesome.

Freddie Kimmel (46:33.322)
Yeah, and the other one I've used is I use a Vagel Stimulator called Pulsetto. And it's got little silver leads on it and I turn it on, you know, I do the pre-bed setting and I use the silver gel as my ultrasound gel. Because I don't, that ultrasound gel does not have great stuff in it. And I was like, this is really clean. This is a great swap out.

Steve (46:39.352)
yeah. Yeah.

Steve (46:50.284)
Yes, yes.

Steve (46:57.656)
Yeah, that's perfect. That's a great idea.

Freddie Kimmel (47:00.086)
Yeah, I've done that. And then there's a system downstairs called shockwave. Same thing, that you should have a gel to shockwave is creating this audible wave that moves through and helps to break up calcium in the tissue. It does a lot of other stuff, but that's been the same thing. I'll use that silver gel just so I'm not having all these the petroleum's and God knows what's in that blue ultrasound gel.

Steve (47:23.832)
Right, yes. I'm sure there's a preservative in it for sure.

Freddie Kimmel (47:28.052)
Yeah, just healthy alternative, healthy swaps. That would be an interesting one for you guys to explore, because it's a good consistency for that.

Steve (47:30.884)
Right.

Steve (47:36.088)
Yeah, yeah, it is. It's the same consistency as an ultrasound gel. You're right.

Freddie Kimmel (47:41.386)
Yeah, swap out, swap out doctors. Steve, I wanna be mindful of your time and I want to, A, I wanna have you back on and there's some cool stuff I'm trying. Again, I'm trying a bunch of swaps and stacks. Before we go, you mentioned your three favorite products and why you think they're essential. Where do you think the easiest,

way to start the conversation of how you're integrating some of these things into a lifestyle. Where does that fall for you?

Steve (48:16.346)
Well, for me, it's a daily regime now. I mean, I just get up in the morning and brush my teeth with a toothpaste and I take the immune supplement three times a day, morning, noon and night. And whenever I have some kind of a skin irritation, I apply the gel.

Unfortunately, when you get older, your skin starts to thin a little bit, I found out. And, you know, I like to bike, I like to run, I like to do things outdoors. And, you know, it turns out that the gel is a wonderful chafing type of an application. You know, if it gets sore or whatever else, I put it on there before I go to bed and in the morning, it's gone. Plain and simple.

And so there is a myriad of uses for those products.

Freddie Kimmel (49:15.07)
love it. And then, know, it's such a unique world right now that we live in. Man, it's so different than we talked to a half years ago. So much has happened in the world. It's so much has happened. If you could tune in all the iPhones to channel Steve, Steve Rovelli, what would you say to the people of the world right now?

Steve (49:22.486)
It is. It is.

Steve (49:33.23)
that health and wellness, that's our life. It really is. And if we can improve, if we can prevent and keep our health and our wellness as much as we possibly can, and I'm on the other side of life right now, I'm on the downhill side, and I'm finding out that you've got to take care of yourself any possible way because,

Happiness is your wellness and your health. And so to stay happy, to stay fit, you need that. You need support.

Freddie Kimmel (50:12.714)
You know, I heard a guy give a great example, was probably like six months ago, and he's like, you know, health is the table that you build your life on. And when it starts to go, everything comes crashing down and you got 99 problems until you don't got your health. And I just, I just feel that so deeply. I think we have so much opportunity to improve our quality of life when we manage things before they become.

chaotic or out of control. think it's much easier to slow that boulder before it's rolling down the hill than try to manage it after when some sort of a landslide and things like simple dental skin health. You know, we can't make claims about, you know, I say this all the time. I'm like, stand in front of the red light panel and I get nitric oxide release. charge up my, the quality of the, the quality of the mitochondrial production and the skin. Now,

Steve (51:10.778)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (51:11.374)
I'm not going to say that that's an anti-cancer therapy, but I am doing a therapy to create a robust shield. This is my outer shield and I'm supporting that from the gel, from the red light. So I'm doing all those things. So maybe I never have to have that conversation about, now we're now, now we're back in this, you know, very difficult decision. Now what are we doing? But I think there's so much power in meeting things before they become chaotic or,

Steve (51:19.289)
Yes.

Freddie Kimmel (51:40.421)
massive, massive medical issue.

Steve (51:43.04)
Absolutely, I'm right there with you. And I mean, things do happen, but you know, if you can, it's preventative, prevent it for sure.

Freddie Kimmel (51:45.429)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (51:51.882)
Yeah. Well, we will, again, we'll put a, we'll put a lead into the show. thank you for doing, everything that you're doing. just huge thank you and big. heart heart, like care bear stare to the silver biotics team. what you guys do is incredible and just the vibe that you put things out there with and the clarity and the simplicity. And, and most of all, I'm so frugal. I'm so glad that this is something I can recommend that everybody across all economic spectrums can.

Steve (52:06.97)
Well, thank you.

Freddie Kimmel (52:21.843)
I just think it's a really, really great product to be involved with.

Steve (52:25.87)
But we've tried to keep it that way so everybody can be healthy and end well with us, that's for sure.

Freddie Kimmel (52:30.344)
Yeah, Blessings. Thank you so much, Steve. Big love.

Steve (52:34.372)
Well thank you, appreciate your time, it's been wonderful.

Freddie Kimmel (52:37.3)
Yes.