Just Hope Healing Center: A New Model for Chronic Illness Recovery with Justin Ballard

WELCOME TO EPISODE 274

EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel (00:01.388)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the Beautifully Broken Podcast. Today we have Justin Ballard from the Just Hope Healing Center. How you doing this morning?

Justin Earl Ballard (00:12.95)
I'm doing wonderful. Thanks for having me, Freddie.

Freddie Kimmel (00:17.91)
I love it. that, did I get that right? Is it the Just Hope Healing Center or is it Just Hope?

Justin Earl Ballard (00:22.934)
Yeah, Just Hope Healing Center. We're located in Thousand Oaks, California, right in Westlake Village.

Freddie Kimmel (00:30.922)
I know right where that is. Now you guys were spared by, obviously, did you have any fire damage in the recent fires over the last year, 2025?

Justin Earl Ballard (00:38.583)
No, actually we've been super blessed. Just obviously power outages and everybody having to evacuate, but this whole place just seemed to be in a protective bubble, which is amazing. But we've had a lot of friends and family that really struggled through that. So it was a tough time for sure.

Freddie Kimmel (00:57.998)
Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was, had a lot of friends that were displaced, a really, really good friend, lost everything and Alta Dena was like, gone. So I know they're in the process of rebuilding now. So my heart was with California at that time and today. So I'm always thinking about everybody over there. Can you, if we bumped into each other in whole foods or let's say this, we'll say air one, because you're in, you're in the LA area. What would you tell me you do for a living?

Justin Earl Ballard (01:06.229)
Hmm.

Justin Earl Ballard (01:15.532)
Yeah.

Justin Earl Ballard (01:22.903)
Yep.

interesting. My main goal is to be find innovative ways to help people heal and to analyze and figure out root causes to why people are sick because the body truly can heal itself. I've seen it people heal of paralysis. I mean the most wildest conditions once you figure out what the body needs. So we listen to the body and and and then give it what it needs.

Freddie Kimmel (01:54.688)
And that's what's tell me the tell me the scope of time that you've been doing this Justin.

Justin Earl Ballard (02:02.007)
So I, in the late 90s, I was having chronic migraines and over years, I just got worse and worse. And so I finally got to see a neurologist. And then when the neurologist was doing my workout, they're like, you're actually having seizures. So they're called functional seizures. And so I was like, well, what is a seizure? And so basically there was all kinds of issues with my cerebral spinal fluid causing

All kinds of issues with what they call Chiari. So I couldn't get proper flow between my brain, my spinal cord, and then I was having sometimes up to like 30 seizures a day. And so this electrical misfire happening inside of my brain was causing de-habilitating pain and I couldn't work. And so my job is obviously in computer background, so programming.

I have patents in optometry, so working on Gaussian filters for virtual reality environments, and then also I have some patents for telecommunications. And so how do we stream television to your TV? So that's my background, but I couldn't work while I was under this massive amounts of headaches, migraines, seizures. And so I became a walking pharmacy. So I basically loaded up on pills.

And then that caused tons of side effects. And then the side effects led me to painkillers, anxiety, diagnoses with ADHD. So at one point I was on over 13 different medications and I'm in my 20s. So I'm like, well, back in the day, I'm in my 40s now. So in my 20s, I was a walking pharmacy and the side effects kept getting worse and worse and worse. So I needed to find answers. And so my body...

started to really shut down in 2012. And that led to paralysis issues, my right leg especially, my right arm, and then I lost over 130 pounds in nine months. So my body just started to dissolve. And obviously now that I look back and I'm like, know, steroids and muscle relaxers and all these things are great in the moment, but long-term they're not, you know, my...

Justin Earl Ballard (04:20.885)
my head kidney stones, my liver got completely overloaded, and then also the amount of stress when your nervous system is being chemically altered. And then when the drugs wear off, then you go into severe anxiety and shakes. So my body really started to go south around 2012, 2013. And then UCLA, where I was going for treatment, I got invited to the NIH Helix program, which is called the Undiagnosed Disease Program.

And so looking at alternative clinical trials, medicines and treatments to be able to curb what I was going through. And unfortunately it did not go well. And after not being able to stay in a clinical trial that seemed very helpful for me, I started to look for outside alternatives. And that's when it got me on biohacking and learning the properties of water. I took all my medication with soda.

So I told my doctor, was like, hey, you know, I'm drinking Coca-Cola and Dr. Pepper, but feel like sugar might be bad for me. And doctors are not trained in nutrition. So they thought it was a genius idea that I would switch to diet Dr. Pepper to drinking my, with my medication. And obviously now I know about diet Dr. Pepper. So I first started with water and that was a really big wake up call for me as the healing properties of water. And then what is water, right? Is a re-drinking.

Tap water which is full of tons of chemicals where I was at there was you know literally hundreds of chemicals that were in my water I had labs testing it. So how do I get clean water and then also? Water that doesn't make me dehydrated. I never thought that drinking water could actually dehydrate you so it was a big journey So started with water then got into learning about Raymond Royal rife and rife frequencies inert gases electromagnetic fields and

Now after getting to meet you, Flo Presso and all kinds of other really cool stuff that we're adding to our repertoire 12 years later, which is super cool.

Freddie Kimmel (06:27.594)
Amazing, amazing. How do you think your background, now you said Gaussian filters, is your telecommunications in a science slant, is that correct?

Justin Earl Ballard (06:40.756)
Yeah, so I worked in telecommunications. So Charter, Paul Allen, he was known as the second richest man in the world back in the 90s. He started Microsoft with Bill Gates. So he had a dream to build the largest telecommunications empire. In fact, they just bought Cox Cable. Of course, he passed away from cancer in 2018. But back in the day, he had this massive dream. And so in the late 90s, I went to Computech University in Seattle.

and got a bunch of computer degrees to learn how different languages they use in television. And that brought me into big contracting jobs. So I don't know if you remember the Slingbox. Slingbox allows you to watch your local television anywhere in the world. And so we looked at that technology to start to replace having people stand in these giant refrigerators and load commercials manually for local networks. So if you're watching the Super Bowl and somebody pays for...

a local commercial to be inserted in, we'd have to stand in these giant, literally building-size refrigerators and put in codes and load the local commercial. And it was a miserable job, paid really well, but we wanted to automate that. So that was one of my big jobs there, and I learned a lot about how things work, but my vision was terrible. my glasses, I literally had big old thick glasses, and I kept having to go in and get them adjusted.

So when virtual reality programming started to come out, I was like, I can't put my glasses on and the headset at the same time. So how do I create the Gaussian filter for optometry so I can change my prescription to the environment of the virtual reality so I don't need to wear glasses and still see clearly 1M and VR? And so that was quite a project to take on. So it ended up being like 23 different patent models to...

create the Gaussian filter and find a way to make it work, which was really a lot of fun for me. And then the other issue that we had was streaming the network. So when you are streaming certain networks on your television, the person's talking, but then you hear their voice like three seconds later, and then it's really frustrating. So working on figuring out different ways to deliver sound and video so people don't have all these issues where it's very frustrating to watch television. So that was a lot of fun too.

Freddie Kimmel (09:03.306)
That's so fascinating and I love the background and the reason why I ask all this is because I would love to have your insight. How do you think your science background and your ability to look at systems in different layers helped you navigate a road that led to where you're at today with better health?

Justin Earl Ballard (09:24.658)
You know, I think with everything we have to ask the right questions. And so the better questions you ask, the better answers you get. So to really dial it in, it's like somebody's like, oh, I have stomach problems. Well, the stomach is huge, right? Is there an issue with the duodenum? Is there an issue with the small intestine, large intestine, you know, the sigmoid, the colon? So there's a whole gigantic world inside of there. You we have 300 trillion cells in our body, 200 types of cells, and they all have a job to do.

And so when you're working in a large company, you see all the different departments and is everybody treated the same? Does everybody have the same resources available to get their job done? And so that same systems analysis that I was put into troubleshoot, I had to apply to my own body. So how do I get the data that I need to really analyze my body so I can troubleshoot it?

And then obviously the body is super intelligent. So first you have to realize your body's intelligent. I didn't realize that. I thought I was in control of everything. But then I was like, wait a minute, what is my liver saying right now into my pancreas? What's happening between my spleen and my heart? So there's a lot of things that I didn't even know were happening inside of me. So first I needed to know what my cells had to say. And I ended up buying a microscope.

Oh my goodness, over 10 years ago. And there's this amazing concierge doctor that I was able to work with. So I learned how to look at my own blood. And that was really cool because I spent a lot of time in computer classes, but never in medical school. So I to learn a whole other approach to analysis and what's going on in the body and the programming.

Freddie Kimmel (11:10.382)
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, there's so many times we have guests on the podcast and it's, you know, it is the darkness, it is the valley of the shadow of death that they walk through and on the other side, they have this whole new way of looking at the body and their views on health and the road is often similar, right? It's like fail, fail, fail, fail, but the commonality is that people keep putting one foot in front of the other and they just.

keep leaning in and to your point, they ask better questions. And down the road, it seems like they get a better answer from the body. I love it that this is so, I just want everybody to lean into that, whether you're listening to this in the car or the gym, if you are on the struggle bus right now, know that your body's made it through 100 % of your most difficult days. And there are examples of that. I wanna ask you, Justin, so,

when you had all of these labels and you had a diagnosis and the deterioration of the tissue in the body, where are you today from where you started as far as your health?

Justin Earl Ballard (12:22.541)
Yeah, so over the past 12 years, I'm on no medication, which is really cool. So was able to eliminate all 13 different.

medications that I've been on. I was even on like heart meds in my 20s, which is crazy, know, statins and, and then I had been hospitalized, I had to go to hospital a couple times for kidney stones. And that was a side effect of my seizure meds that I was on. So yeah, I don't have any more seizures, which is awesome. Got my driver's license back finally. They wrote on my, neurologist wrote that this condition is not curable. So they put life on my

Freddie Kimmel (12:36.238)
Hmm.

Justin Earl Ballard (12:59.729)
on my paperwork. So yeah, so in California, it's pretty hard to get your driver's license back when you have a world class neurologist telling you that you can't ever drive again because you're a risk. So I had to go through a lot of testing and which was awesome because it was part of my story, which is super cool. But yeah, I got my driver's license back, I think that 2018. it's so even today, like I got in my car and I was like, wow, I'm driving. You don't know.

Freddie Kimmel (13:00.446)
no!

Justin Earl Ballard (13:29.104)
appreciate things until you lose them. So that being said, yeah, I full functionality of my body, thanks to these biohacking tools and analysis and finding things stuck in my body that I couldn't purge out. And then I don't wear glasses, which is really cool. So I'm in awe that I don't have to wear glasses to see you today, which is really neat. But yeah, no, don't have any...

Freddie Kimmel (13:54.446)
Incredible.

Justin Earl Ballard (13:56.207)
Yeah, any health conditions right now, I'm in absolutely no pain or discomfort, which I never thought possible, especially headaches. It was just chronic every single day of head pressure. So that's a really nice thing to wake up to to have that peace.

Freddie Kimmel (14:12.418)
Now you mentioned, I have so many questions for you. One thing I want to comment on is the way the current legacy medical model works is like, take something like a migraine. Now you mentioned the stomach, you have stomach pain, what could that be? If you were to list the reasons why someone could get a migraine, I bet you I could come up with 100 items. And the legacy model would say, okay, here's the medications we're gonna do.

Justin Earl Ballard (14:33.968)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (14:41.102)
to address the symptoms of that migraine. For me, that always has felt like gross negligence. And I understand you have to meet someone where they're at, but this idea of like an investigative model and a curious model of health, what could be the driver of that migraine? And could that driver turn into something much worse 10, 20, 30 years down the road? I'm just baffled by the way we look at things now. It's like,

The body is telling you something. It's like, please do something different. Please listen to me. And we're gonna, we're gonna put a bag over that person's mouth and basically gag them that that voice that's coming from inside doesn't mean we can't meet the person where they're at, but I don't know if you have anything you want to add to that.

Justin Earl Ballard (15:17.32)
Mm.

Yeah, well, if we only have an hour long podcast, I won't be able to even scratch the surface of those root causes. you know, if you look at a car and of course, if you still have one of those gas cars that runs with oil, because everybody right now is electric. so if my car is not running well, I look at the dipstick, right? I look at the oil and as the oil is dirty, I start there. That might not be the.

the way to fix the car, but it's a great place to start. So with me, I had to go in and analyze and make a gigantic list of all the things that were wrong in my body. then through systematic approach, start to eliminate everything on the list. And if you eliminate everything on the list that is off with the body, then you check and see, did the problem resolve itself, rather than going in and putting a bandaid on it.

And obviously if you do hormone replacement therapies and steroids and antibiotics, yeah, you're gonna feel better. But what happens after you take the antibiotic? Is all the good healthy bacteria in your stomach there anymore or is it wiped out? Then are you gonna be able to even absorb or digest your food? The steroids wear off, like is your body going to naturally be able to take care of itself or is it so dependent on the steroids?

that it became lazy, right? If you had somebody do your job every day for you and then they disappeared, you'd be overwhelmed because you're out of rhythm. So everything is in rhythms and cycles. And so I look at the systematic approach to eliminating all the aggressors and all the things that could be causing an issue. And because of the floppresso, obviously, our lymphatic is fascinating.

Justin Earl Ballard (17:18.251)
you can hold onto enough toxins that could literally, if it got into your bloodstream, kill you 300 times over and still be perfectly healthy, right? The lymph has the ability to hold onto all that poison. And so looking at myself for the first time, I'm overwhelmed. was like, okay, I have a decade of painkiller abuse and toxins and bad diet and seed oils and fungicides and herbicides and pesticides and all the sides. And so how do I get all those out of me?

And there's still people that I meet that have Agent Orange in them from Vietnam. That was a long time ago, right? So you still have Agent Orange inside of you. So like, why isn't the body getting rid of it, right? What's going on that's keeping that poison locked inside of you and how do we get it out? So that's kind of my approach and clean oil equals clean, well, your car runs a lot better when the oil is clean, a lot smoother.

Freddie Kimmel (18:13.364)
Yeah, so true. had posted up this probably two months back. I had posted a picture of a wild boar that had been caught, I Colorado or California, but the boar were getting a hold of this rat poison. And when you sliced open the meat, the fat, the subcutaneous layer of fat was dyed blue from this poison. was like striking blue, like jet blue. And I had said, you know, is, you know, shocking this is I, but the point I want to make is how miraculous the human body is that that that

or that organ system knew it's like, got to pull this out of the bloodstream. I got to park it where it's going to do the least amount of damage for me. And that is in the body's fat, right? It was too much at the time. It's wild. Nature really does teach us an order of operations if we do that deep listening, just to reiterate your point. But before we go on to one more thing, I want to ask you the word biohacking.

I'm not, these days I'm not, because it's a little semantics, but I'm not in love with it anymore. From my understanding, we don't, we never long-term have an ROI on hacks, right? Sometimes they can be a temporary relief of symptoms, the order of operations or this idea that the body heals in order, and there are, it is following a rhythm that is found in nature, like,

Justin Earl Ballard (19:16.78)
and

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Freddie Kimmel (19:39.215)
hacking our health? Is there another like, is there another phrase you resonate? Do you not even worry about it? You know, I think about things like, because I think we can use these things like a methylene blue for improved electron shuttling in the brain for cognitive function. But are we also ignoring, just like we would with a pharmaceutical, that that voice that is coming from inside? I would love your thoughts.

Justin Earl Ballard (20:08.035)
Yeah, that's so cool that you bring that up. I just had that conversation with an amazing woman who's...

involved in child rescue. So she's rescued like 8,400 kids and has this worldwide team that's going in and doing incredible work for humanity. And she's like the same thing, biohacking is really not, it doesn't really apply to where they're at. And so we call it transformative work. So what are we doing to transform? And my approach that has been probably the greatest thing

that I've ever come across is the spiritual transformation. A lot of people, don't, like Morgan Freeman did a TV show, I think it's called Is There a God? And they took people and their belief systems and the brain doesn't light up unless you believe in a creator, right? The brain, literally there's parts of the brain that don't go boing and this big light comes on under the scan unless you actually believe in God. And so.

our belief system is really, really important and to be able to have that integrated inside of you or transform into the understanding. So we have our mind, our body, our spirit, and then there's also the soul, right? We have our soul as well. And so being able to acknowledge all those angles. So it's like looking at a diamond, seeing all the different faucets of it. And so we have to be able to look at ourselves from all these different angles.

You know, one thing that's becoming super popular right now in the cancer world is people looking at German New Medicine. And Dr. Reitgerd Hamer, you know, he's that famous surgeon and looking at, yes, there is a, you know, he has 12 steps to healing cancer. And so he's big on funguses being at the root cause of a lot of diseases. Then we got parasites, amoebas, then we have viruses, bacterias. The term leaky gut is becoming really popular.

Justin Earl Ballard (22:08.491)
And so all those are factors in the physical, but we have an incredible immune system. You when I look under a microscope and I see Encinophils just wiping out disease in people's blood, know, natural killer cells, basal, basal fills, monocytes. It's really amazing to watch that. You know, they have these granule sites and they grab onto the infection and tear it apart and create hydrogen peroxide to dumb it down. And it's really, really cool to see. But how come when you look at some people's blood,

nothing works. Like the cells just kind of sit there. It's like a police officer watching a woman get robbed and mugged in a parking lot and just continues to play video games on his phone and doesn't do anything to help her. So why do some people's immune systems take care of the job and other people's don't? And that really comes down to that mental, emotional and spiritual factor that you just don't see. You know, I talked to this incredible oncologist from MD Anderson and she's doing

Freddie Kimmel (22:51.822)
Hmm.

Justin Earl Ballard (23:07.828)
you know, amazing work because she's putting her whole heart and life into this. But that's the one factor that there there we're starting to hear from doctors is there's no spirituality in hospitals. And then where's people's hope? Have you heard of the hope experiment? So the hope experiment, John Hopkins, they took rats that were drowning. And so the rats would literally drown in under 10 minutes. So they would put them in these jars of water.

they immediately figure out there's no way out, there's nothing they could do, and then they just give up. Well, then they would go in and save their lives, and then they put it back in the water, and then they would know that they can be saved, right? So now they have this change in their brain and their thoughts, and then they can swim up to 60 hours, right? So imagine being able to go from lasting 10 minutes in a fight to lasting 60 hours in a fight. That's a huge difference. And so that's what they call the power of hope.

or the HOPE experiment. It's really, really fascinating work. And that's been a big motivation for me is I felt really hopeless, right? You talk to doctors and they say, hey, there's nothing we can do. And it's almost like you're being cursed, especially when doctors, know, words like, you know, terminal diagnosis. And so I love doctors that always hold on to HOPE and that are always encouraging to the patient, you know, cause each one of us is different, right? While...

Yes, there might be thousands of people that had that outcome, but they all had a different thumbprint than you do, right? Eight billion people, eight billion different thumbprints. We're all unique and we're all different. And so everybody has any unique approach. Everybody has a unique story. If I told all eight billion people on the planet to write a hundred page essay on their relationship with God and what they believe about God, I'd have eight billion different papers. Nobody would be the same. And so how do you find that customized approach to someone?

and really meet them where they're at. And that takes time. And right now, people do not have enough time in the day to even really start to scratch the surface of how amazing and how in-depth we are.

Freddie Kimmel (25:15.96)
Justin, you're so inspired. I'm loving this interview. I'm already planning out what other ones are going to do in the future. I love it. There's so many times, you're giving me these nuggets of truth and I can see where I can join with you on the other side of the coin. There's a book that I often recommend to people called Radical Remission and it looks at this scientist, a doctor who set out to disprove.

Justin Earl Ballard (25:23.219)
Awesome.

Freddie Kimmel (25:45.581)
these cases of late stage, radical remission of cancer in which the tumors just melt away. And I think it's like out of the eight or nine things people changed, only two of them were attributes related to health. A lot of it was like belief system and energetic and internal dialogue and relationship dynamics. And you think about all these things that go into the, you know, the power of a purpose, you know, to fill the sale, bringing people forward through this time of adversity. it just,

So many times we just want to focus on like what is broken with the health machine, not understanding that there is this quantifiable energetic spirit or as you said, like there is a tether that I believe it gives you more power when you're tapped into something much bigger than yourself. Whatever that belief system could be. I love it. I love it. Love it. So inspired. So inspired. And I love the idea of this

Justin Earl Ballard (26:15.53)
Yeah. .

Freddie Kimmel (26:44.524)
term the transformative work. Cause the way I would join with you and say, cause I've been thinking about this a lot, you know, what is this? What is this we're doing? You know, what is this? And it's not alternative medicine. These are things that are complimentary to body systems outlined in biomedical, bioregulatory medicine or German, German, new medicine. They are complimentary, but we can't skip the work. And every great artist will tell you that it's like, if you're a writer,

If you don't feel like writing in the morning, you got to show up to that typewriter and you got to put in the work. Same thing with an artist or a singer or somebody who's on stage, some of my background there, can't bypass that. You know, and I think it's the same thing in this healing container. Like there is once we alleviate that, that like blinding suffering and we get to a level where the body has an experience that it can improve its symptomology or its position.

Justin Earl Ballard (27:25.83)
Mm hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (27:43.131)
I think that's really where the work starts. So I want to transition there. That was my big long roundabout to bring us back into all the way back into Just Hope, right? Because I think that's what you guys are doing. You're trying to give these people that are coming in to work with you evidentiary proof that the body can do it, but you're using a lot of energy and frequency and light. so tell us what we do at Just Hope.

Justin Earl Ballard (28:11.994)
Yeah, so it's been a journey. First off, I had to heal myself. And I truly believe heal people, heal people. And sick people make other people sick. So I needed to go.

Freddie Kimmel (28:23.864)
God, that's a t-shirt, Justin.

Justin Earl Ballard (28:26.397)
There you go. So I needed to go and look at all these different modalities. And I started off with some pretty intense stuff. I've worked at a lot of different wellness centers and seen some really great people out there doing great work. But then there's part of the puzzle that's missing, right? It's like, wow, they encompass a lot of this, but there's something still missing. So Just Hope has been kind of a combined effort.

to go around and to learn all the different modalities that are out there, but with the oath of do no harm, right? So I'm looking at all these modalities that don't actually put life at risk. And so there's a lot of things out there that are incredible, but then on the other side of it, like somebody could actually really get hurt. And so I've been able to get firsthand experience seeing things that are very safe and effective.

for holding space for people to heal. I did realize, you know, if I was to give a pearl of wisdom to the audience and everyone, you have to be in a parasympathetic state if you really want to heal. And so people that come in that are stressed, your nervous system is where all dis-ease comes from. And so if there's any type of dis-ease in you, and that can have many labels from the C word to auto-immunes to, you know,

horrible conditions and labels that they put on stomach and digestive and pain and arthritis and osteoporosis. If you are stressed, then your body's ability to actually heal itself, the nervous system is going to consume all that healing energy, Body electric, everything's electrical. And so the nervous system is, you know, if I smash my thumb with a hammer, I'm going to feel lightning bolts, right? So where's all my electricity? Where's all my energy going? So you got to be able to relax. So

The big focus here is we have quite a few technologies that are unfortunately are not really out in the world yet. So we have the Sumo Live Z5 and it's an incredible sound bed made by an incredible man named Sean Patrick. And that allows the body within like 15 minutes to relax. And sometimes people, when they get off this bed, they feel so drunk, they can't drive home. So they need to sit and drink water for like 30 minutes because.

Justin Earl Ballard (30:50.194)
They're just like, I can barely walk. I haven't been this relaxed my whole life. And then we do the flopresso. And so our body is, it's the sewage system. And if you're stressed and your body, the only thing it can do is just keep toxins from going in the blood. It's not going to be able to get them out. And you know, just like somebody that's a hoarder, their house gets so overwhelmed, they don't even know where to start. So they just start packing everything in. And because we're so wonderfully made,

Freddie Kimmel (31:15.758)
Hmm.

Justin Earl Ballard (31:17.667)
and beautifully made, we can hold on to a lot of poison and a lot of garbage before something really tragic happens. So we focus on cleaning the lymphatic and now of course they discover there's a glymphatic. So we have our lymphatic and glymphatic and then we do the human regenerator. And so we were the second people to have the human regenerator in North America and that is a cold plasma. So cold atmospheric plasma and that's really cool because this

approach to healing the body, the body's super intelligent. So if you give it all this energy after you're in a very relaxed state, it'll go to where the body needs it. And so you kind of step out of the way and let the body go, here you go. Here's all this beautiful energy now going into where you have the disease. And then we love the Firefly. Firefly is a, lot of people are into rife machines and that's kind of like soaking the whole body in this.

Freddie Kimmel (31:57.646)
Hmm.

Justin Earl Ballard (32:15.568)
field and frequencies, but the Firefly is more like it's hyper-focused and it's a lot more powerful than a rife machine. So you can go in and let's say somebody has horrible leaky gut and you have this bacteria that no matter what, you can't wipe it out. And so the Firefly can not only treat it, but it can scan you and find out that exact frequency that is needed. The light is a wave and a particle.

So you have that ability to really target those particular areas that need to be cleared. And then you can't beat a human. Human therapists are really the best. No computers can, or machines or technology that can compete really with a well-trained human. having somebody that's an empath that has a great ability to feel you feel safe with them. And then we do bio magnetic therapy. And so I don't know if you're familiar with Faraday.

Faraday is kind of the father of inventing electrochemistry, but he used to do kind of like a magic trick. He would dissolve diamonds, right? So diamonds are the hardest substance on earth. And so people take this hard diamond and they're like, well, you can't crush it. You can't burn it. You can't melt it. So how do you destroy a diamond? And so he would make these specific acids that would target the oxygen ion bond that holds together a diamond. And at a molecular level, it would just fall apart.

fall apart. so with bio magnetic therapy, you can program magnets to target those oxygen ion bonds, which are really hard stuff to get out of the body, you can start to target it to start to get it to move. And I've seen some really cool stuff happen with well trained people that do bio magnetic therapy. In fact, miracles if you combine spiritual and emotional and mental healing at the same time.

Freddie Kimmel (34:06.066)
Yeah, I love it. I'm a huge fan of bio magnetism. so one company I'm a consultant for is, and it was the first thing I like jumped in the water, like had all the way in was a system called the AMP coil, which is like pulse electromagnetic fields and frequency using single tone therapy. And I had something, I just put a substack article up. I did not expect to happen. And at the time,

Justin Earl Ballard (34:10.139)
Mm-hmm.

Justin Earl Ballard (34:23.312)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (34:34.734)
And this is 2017, 2018, I was going to the ER a lot with these partial obstructions in my adhesions from going through cancer and all the surgeries I went through. And it was every three weeks, I would have an obstruction where I'd lay down and puke for three hours or I'd go to the ER 2012, 2015, they'd read section me or they'd go in with a laser. And after using it for a year, I was having one time a year.

Justin Earl Ballard (35:02.805)
. .

Freddie Kimmel (35:03.288)
where the scar tissue, where we didn't go and change, but it was not responding in that way anymore. People, there's a myriad of different things, just like you're saying. You've seen some really amazing stuff that I can't personally explain in the body. And we also, here's, I want to ask you about this. We teeter on this line of sometimes when we say, a device can identify a frequency to go in and help with a pathogen associated with a lipopolysaccharide or...

the layers of the intestinal wall and it can help correct from frequency and magnetics or pushing a sound frequency through a noble gas. 99 % of the American population is going to say bullshit, woo medicine. And so how do we have that conversation, Justin, as these, because I have had hundreds, if not a thousand people that I've talked to and met them and said,

Justin Earl Ballard (35:51.213)
Hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (36:01.89)
Wow, this is a thing, right? It's not a medical device. It's not through the FDA. But here is my experience. And so can you help bring some validity to that with your scientific background or your lived experience?

Justin Earl Ballard (36:17.635)
Yeah,

You know, coming from telecommunications and kind of a programming background, you can't really, as you say, BS those things. So it's like either the code works or it doesn't. And so that's why I had to get my microscope and start to really analyze myself from the inside out. So there's a lot of scanning systems out there. You know, I've actually...

been trained and worked on over 20 different analysis systems to really look at what's going on. I even did the German on the med training. I don't know if you're familiar with the on the med system, but that was really cool.

Freddie Kimmel (36:55.058)
yes, totally, totally. And no onto MedWell. And that, in fact, that was, that always had, within this world of like the, the frequency devices in PMF, that always had good feedback in more so the people who now knew how to use it from a clinical setting. I would say people are like, I love this thing. I love this thing. However, it's a little antiquated and it's a little slow. but go on, please.

Justin Earl Ballard (36:58.936)
Yes

Justin Earl Ballard (37:20.387)
Yeah. Yeah, I know it was really it was for me. I love learning. And so, you know, I don't I don't use the on demand. But when I got trained for it, I went through the certification and, you know, sitting there and like feeling people's pulses change as you're changing the frequencies and like you're going like, wow, I had no idea. It's like a radio station and you can just tune into like hundreds of different awesome things in the body. And so I've gotten

multiple scanning systems. The FireFall uses the F scan, it's from Switzerland. It's a really good device because it's like Marco Polo and it's it's something saying, hey, I'm here when you ping it. And that's really cool because you can literally see the big spikes on the screen and see that there is feedback, that there is something in the body. Probably my favorite system I'm using right now is the Monocore. The Monocore is one of the world's first AI driven.

analytic tools and it also does treatments. So it works on over 2,500 issues in the body, which is really cool. But it also takes on all of your emotional states. So there's like 50 different emotional states that come through that are connected to the physical. And so the AI takes over and it is incredible. There's many different access points or master points on the body to access. So it gives me all the brain waves in real time.

and then is able to measure all the exact frequencies of the organs down to the fourth decimal point. I've never seen anything go that low and that accurate. I mean, it's like really pinpoint accuracy and it's a class two FDA approved medical device. it started, the AI started over 20 years ago, used for Olympic athletes and stamina and to get better results. So if you're having trouble, you know, running 200 meters, but you're, and you,

and you can rock it at 100, but you want to get up to that next level. It's incredible to help people with athletes. And then the AI just kept getting smarter and smarter and smarter and smarter. So it's on like its 18th version. So I just literally got a brand new upgrade of hardware last month, which is really cool. So why are people up? And I've seen some pretty amazing things, especially really stubborn viruses that are caused from emotional distress, because everything's communication. I look at

Justin Earl Ballard (39:44.233)
A lot of viruses like Epstein-Barr virus, they call it everybody virus, there's no cure for it, you're born with it, and it activates the emotions. so how do we deactivate something like that, that you can't cure, you can't get rid of it in the body? So I always tell people it's like an app on your phone, you can't uninstall this particular app, and when it's on, it's draining your battery, so we just need to deactivate it, right? So it'll always be there, but it's no longer draining you, it's no longer active, it's no longer wrecking your mitochondria.

So that's been really cool to be able to work with a monocore And so there's a woman named dr. Luba who trained me and just absolutely I did I actually did a public speaking event with her and I'm just blown away by her brain and so she's a Russian she came over from Russia and is has so many titles from engineer to Genius scientist doctor. I mean, it's it's really cool. So that being said I've been doing the monocore

for the last couple years and I am blown away by that. And then we have other things, know, Nez Health, it got kind of, think, out, so it's called Energy for Life. I really like that. I can sit all day long and muscle test people and get completely exhausted. You can spend six hours on one person muscle testing. So Energy for Life gives you really good place to look for stress and been doing that one for, my goodness, eight or nine years now.

Freddie Kimmel (40:52.727)
Energy for life, yep.

Justin Earl Ballard (41:09.634)
And so it has a really strong place at the table. I love it. It's easy. Doesn't have radiation, non-invasive. Meditron is really cool. There's a lot of different versions of the Meditron out there. I know they have certain types of international and FDA approval, but that's a really good device too. you know, it's like if you go and you get a diagnosis from a doctor, you want to get second opinions. And, you know, the skepticism in me wants to look.

do I have four different bioenergetics scans saying, hey, there's something really going on in your liver. We need to take a focus at that, right? And then the other side of it too is people come in and their eyes are yellow and it's like they have severe jaundice and they're like, I don't know what to do. The doctor can't figure out what's going on. All my labs are clear, but I'm really, really sick. And then you're like, well, it's very possible you have hepatitis. We always get that.

One of the first things I do when you're born is you get the hepatitis shot in the foot. so, know, Robert Kennedy Jr. is now really starting to talk about that on a big, on a big level. And so let's, you know, let's see what we can do to support the liver so it doesn't get overwhelmed by a virus or some type of infection. So yeah, we just play a really big support role after we find out what's resonating in the body, so to speak. But there is no.

silver bullet, there is no cure, as you already know, with the amp coil and with all the other devices that are out there. I just truly believe the body has the innate ability to heal itself. And I got that thought from a medical doctor from 1874. So I don't know if you've heard of Dr. Harriet Austin. Most people haven't, but yeah, so I have her book.

Freddie Kimmel (42:49.698)
Mm-hmm.

Justin Earl Ballard (42:55.233)
We photocopied it because it was falling apart, but this is literally October of 1874 and it's called laws of life the journal to health by dr. Harry Austin, you know, you think of a woman in 1874 being a medical doctor pretty incredible because there's been so much garbage in the world keeping the women down and their brilliant minds and But she says we do not treat any kind of disease

With us, disease is not a thing to be treated. We treat the man or the woman or the child who has a disease, but not the disease itself. Our philosophy, good reader, is a new thing. We have the theory that the curative force lies in the person to be treated and not outside of them. Therefore, our plan of treating the sick is to create for them right conditions of living and make these as effective for them as possible. And this woman, I mean, want to talk about her resume. It would take me an hour just to talk about all of her accomplishments that she's done.

but she states in the book that she's healed people of every type of disease commonly known to exist. So there's nothing that she wouldn't take on, but she didn't put a timeframe to everything, right? She didn't say, you're gonna be healed in three weeks, or like you, took a year. And so some people heal really fast. I went and saw Greg Braden and Bruce Lipton, and they have videos of people instantaneously healing, and I'm like, wow, that is so cool to see that.

but she treats the person and meets them where they're at in their sickness and disease and just provides everything they need. So I love being able to work in conjunction with doctors and just have them come in and say, hey, this is what I'm working on. I can't get this person to stop thinking about fear or stop worrying or stop having anxiety. And so to be able to support and add that missing puzzle piece, so to speak in the world has been really...

satisfying and rewarding for me. And obviously, it's been now 12 years on my own journey and I get to reap the benefits because I have a normal life now.

Freddie Kimmel (44:55.532)
Yeah, yeah, awesome. Yeah, bravo. I'm kind of speechless. There's so much good fodder here for people to go off and start exploring some of these things. I've heard you mention multiple times this idea that there needs to be a belief system, that there needs to be hope, that there is no silver bullet, that we create an environment in which the body can...

bust through this layer of a chronic loop that it's been on. It's very much the language that I use when I talk about healing and my belief system. What did you have a moment in which your internal sail was filled with hope that what was there an emotional shift for you that happened that you can keep in your mind that is pivotal?

Justin Earl Ballard (45:48.904)
Yeah, you know, with, I like to meet people wherever they are. So, but for me, it was coming to Christ. So there was a really big moment where I realized, like, I thought I knew what love was, right? Like I love pizza.

Love movies, love going out to red carpet events and used to be big into going to Comic Con. So it was like Disneyland for me going and like geeking out in Star Trek uniforms and doing all those wild things. But that wasn't love that really filled me up, right? So afterwards, it's like you eat food, you get hungry again, you drink, you get thirsty again. I buy a sports car and next year it's like, I want the new model. So I wanted something.

that would really fill me up. And so I had a very big experience with basically just overdoing my medication. Some of the doctors weren't talking to each other and so I went into a very serious moment in my body where my body was shutting down and I had a connection with Christ and that was life-changing for me because...

I actually got to experience love and that has been my fueling force for literally the past decade is I wanna share love with people and some people come in, it's like holding that space with them like, hey, it doesn't matter what you've done. I'm not here to judge you or throw stones at you or tell you you're a bad person. We're in a really dark world and most everybody has some type of traumatic experience from their childhood.

Even if they've had good parents, the school system or just the neighbor kids, what they've done to you. And so a lot of people have a lot of stuff that's piled in the background. And how do you reach that? How do you get people to feel safe enough to where little Justin inside of me has the ability to feel safe to come out, to express myself? I grew up in Northern Idaho and the Indian reservation was right next to where I lived.

Justin Earl Ballard (47:55.903)
And it's really cool to kind of hear that approach from the Native Americans. They'd say, you know, you have a very serious illness condition. And so they're gonna ask you, when did you stop dancing? Right? When did you stop singing? When was the morning that you got up and you stopped running through the kitchen and singing and boogieing, and now you just get up, you know, and you're just locked into this stressful state. And so how do you remember who you are? And it takes love to do that. And it takes...

not just a surface level love, but it takes a very deep love. The translation in biblical is called hesed love. So a lot of people use the word agape, but the real translation is hesed love, and it is this infinite love that goes beyond all barriers and all walls. And that is where I really truly see the miraculous happen.

Freddie Kimmel (48:47.434)
Incredible. Incredible. Tell me what it looks like for somebody, because you're in Southern California, yes?

Justin Earl Ballard (48:54.244)
I am, yeah. Southern California. California is not really the best place to be for what we do, but it's where we were put. So we just gotta play the hand as you receive it.

Freddie Kimmel (49:09.272)
So imagine somebody has a gym membership and they go into, we'll say Gold's Gym, or I guess we could say Planet Fitness, and they want to improve their position. They want to lose weight. They want to gain muscle. So they've got to show up a certain number of times and again, do the work. And there's a progressive overload and we're going to do things like hydrate and drink water. What does it look like for somebody to come to Just Hope and do the work? I'm sure there's a myriad different ways in which you see people.

But can you give us an example of somebody that's gonna come in? Do people do a membership? Do they visit you for a long weekend? What's that look like?

Justin Earl Ballard (49:48.497)
Yeah, you know, in the past it was more just kind of come in, do a real brief scan and then, you know, sit in a chair and start to get, you know, frequency treatments and assist the body in what it needs. Diseases are getting a lot more complex now and it seems like people because of

The fear in the world, everybody is just loaded with fear. And so they go in and they get a diagnosis and they're just freaking out. You can't just sit there in front of somebody for like 15, 20 minutes, do a quick scan and say, have this frequency, because you have to understand it, right? So a lot of people suffer because they don't really understand. They don't really know their body. You know, if you're to count every cell in the body that keeps you alive, it'd take you 95 million years of nonstop counting. That's a lot. And then,

Your cells have a nucleus, right? So they're all talking to the hippocampus, the brain. And so what is not speaking and communicating in the body? So usually they come in, we do a three hour kind of workup and we sit, we talk, we hit every base. So physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, know, see what their doctor is recommending, what we can do to support them. And then after that, we have all these really great modalities. And so, you know, is the body able to just go right in and do the flopresso?

Or is it does it need some time? Does it require a really gentle touch or are you built like a tank and you're ready to like just get those worms out right now and and get Jump right on track. So we just got to figure out what your body needs where it's at what the level of trauma is or PTSD And then we come up with, know a comprehensive plan and then we obviously the goal is is to

hey, we're gonna do something that is not gonna cause harm and then let's see if it's working for you. And if it's not, then we have to keep adjusting and adjusting and it's like a ship, you you can take off from Florida and aim for Australia. But guess what? If you don't check the compass and you don't check the map, you're probably not gonna make it. So you have to readjust the course. so continuing to do more scans and to look and see, we on target? Are we actually truly listening to the body and getting the body to have all that it needs?

Justin Earl Ballard (52:00.029)
nutritionally as well to make it to your destination. And said sometimes people come here and they just literally see me and that's it, because it's like, my goodness, I just realized I haven't forgiven myself for something I did 20 years ago. And then they walk out of here almost drunk and happy, all their chronic neck and back pain is gone. In fact, I had this one guy come halfway across the world to see me.

and he couldn't swallow. so, know, months of not being able to swallow his food, he was getting just wiped out. And it was this huge emotional experience that he had going on with his wife. And so we had to resolve that. And then all of a sudden, like I give him some supplements and he swallows them right on the spot. And he's like, so he's like, all right, I'm going back home. I was like, okay, well, I guess he won't be staying with us because he's like, he's totally healed. And then, you know, we check in with him and here he is, you know.

months, years, and now, you know, he's just like, it just never came back. And it was something that simple, which is super cool. So yeah, we just meet you where you're at. But the main thing is to really take a look at what's going on. And you know, the other side of it too, with vitalists, you know, having them sit down, they also are really great at muscle testing and listening to the body. The Firefly as well, if you're just having gut stuff, you just come on in. Firefly scan just takes literally just a few minutes.

and then you can get immediately into start helping the gut, the liver, the pancreas, the spleen, and all your intestinal tract, what part of it is under attack. So you don't have to actually see me, you can just literally come in and get some basic tuneups with the Firefly or a vitalist therapy.

Freddie Kimmel (53:44.865)
Amazing. Now let me ask you this. Because we live in the world we live in, I just went and got an IV yesterday. I some high dose vitamin C and some magnesium, which is my favorite IV, by the way. It's new. I've done high dose vitamin C, but like 25 milligrams of vitamin C and a milligram of magnesium for me, it's like the sweet spot. Everything works better. Yeah, but I went in and yesterday the Texas Medical Board had said,

Justin Earl Ballard (54:08.015)
Mmm awesome

Freddie Kimmel (54:14.424)
to one of the practitioners I work with who is a nurse practitioner, who is a chiropractor, who is a nutritionist, that all the therapies that they're doing from chiropractic to peptide to vitamin fusion are, I had to sign this waiver. And they're basically starting to make it harder for people to do some of these complimentary therapies. This is Texas, which is really interesting. Because normally it's more kind of laissez faire. In California,

Justin Earl Ballard (54:33.155)
Okay. Miss.

Freddie Kimmel (54:43.202)
How do you navigate compliance and keeping your doors open and working in this realm that it can be tricky, right? And so we're dancing all over these different arenas. We're talking about viruses and conditions, understanding we are an energetic body. Can you say more on that about how you guys keep the boat afloat, keep the doors open if you will?

Justin Earl Ballard (55:10.048)
Yeah, you know, and that's the thing. It's like, you kind of have to operate outside of that realm, but I've never been able to truly heal anyone. I mean, my body has healed itself, which is so cool.

And word of mouth goes a really long ways, but there's nothing that you can claim. And that's the thing, it's like, that's why people have to have faith, that they have to believe in themselves. so, a lot of these things, like the term biohacking, that's a really comfortable place because people come in and they wanna be the best version of themselves they can be. And so their approach is just basically helping yourself clean up your body. And we don't do IVs or...

injections or any of that stuff. the main thing is just we go and the biggest component of the body is the nervous system. And so I've actually worked on quite a few different technologies that help calm the nervous system. And so what we can do to just help the body relax and then start to get into that repair process. Everybody's doing light therapy. You can get light therapy at your home. Firefly makes a really great home flight light system that is awesome.

But yeah, there is no ability to make any type of claims. People just, if they feel better, then your body's trying to tell you that this is what you wanna do. So it's just listening to your body because there is no real, again, silver bullet or cure out there. So we're just here to support people. Hold that space for them just like you're gonna go talk to a therapist, right? There's just so many people out there that are motivational speakers and coaches and say, hey.

You know, you gotta get up and get past that moment where your body shut down. So that's kind of more of our approach. And then obviously the waiver is, there is no claims or anything that we can do that we can say, hey, we can actually do this. It's just more, do you feel like this is where your spirit, your soul, and this is where God wants you to be? And if that's the case, then we're here to support you and help you through it.

Freddie Kimmel (57:11.726)
That's great. That's great. Justin, I really appreciate the time today and the insight. I can't wait till I'm out in California. I would love to come visit and see all the things you guys are doing. We're definitely like in South Austin, we have an event, our first event we're calling the South Austin Wellness Project. We'll have all the founders from a lot of these companies like Vimini Nanotherapy, which is bubbled oxygen.

Justin Earl Ballard (57:25.22)
Yeah

Freddie Kimmel (57:41.231)
to Flo Presso, to Amp Coil, to Light Path LED, to we have a big 14-person sauna outside. And it's just a day of connection and wellness. It's really good food, really good adaptogenic cocktails, all the things, lots of love. There's even going to be a campfire. And it's a community model, right? There's no there's.

Other than the fact it's about connection and raising the vibe, but you know, we have open houses on every Sunday in Austin and it's full of coffee and muffins and like really great people that are in the world of wellness here in Austin. it's definitely growing momentum and there's a need for it. So I would love to come out and see what you guys are doing. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Justin Earl Ballard (58:25.97)
Sounds just just hope. Yeah, I was like, a minute, you just described what we do right there. So that's awesome. Yeah. Well, yeah, love to have you come up and visit. And obviously our bodies are super intelligent. So when you walk into certain rooms and your hair stands up, you're like, wait a minute, something's not right here. Or you can walk in and you just feel, I'm home.

Freddie Kimmel (58:33.004)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's-

Justin Earl Ballard (58:47.895)
Right, so hopefully you have that experience when you come up here and you're like, okay, this is where I was guided to be. This is where my path for my life that I have is, this is in alignment with it, right? We all have a different path. We all have a different mission. We're all here on this earth for a specific reason. And so hopefully that will bring you here.

Freddie Kimmel (59:07.864)
Beautiful and where do people go if they want to research just hope?

Justin Earl Ballard (59:12.023)
Yeah, so justhopehealingcenter.com and then Flowpresso has really great websites. So they can literally go in and research these direct companies that are on there. So Bell's Photonics for Firefly, Human Regenerator. And so they can literally go in and read all the research that's behind these technologies. There's been some really awesome clinical research behind pretty much everything that's out there. Flowpresso is super impressive. And so, yeah, so do you...

Freddie Kimmel (59:38.828)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm a, I'm a super fan of Lopresso and, and all the other stuff that you're doing, albeit a lot of them I have not got to experience, but I've heard nothing but, good things about Monocore and the human regenerator, which was just at an event I was at. I did, there's a huge waiting line to get on one. So I didn't get to try it.

Justin Earl Ballard (59:58.713)
Yeah, you're missing out. It's really cool. I'm like, where has this been my whole life? I was like, and there is no limit to health. There's no limit to how young you can be, right? So, I mean, there's people walking around right now in their 60s that have the blood and telomeres of a 10 year old. so, know, health is wealth. And so is it sitting there in the bank or sitting right now, people are losing everything in crypto in the stock market, you know, or are you putting it your body and staying healthy?

Freddie Kimmel (01:00:18.723)
Yeah.

Justin Earl Ballard (01:00:28.47)
rather than getting sick. So I highly recommend invest in yourself. That's where the real value is. That's the one thing that you can control.

Freddie Kimmel (01:00:30.882)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (01:00:39.262)
Awesome. Well, I want you to have a blessed day and thank you for being a guest on the beautifully broken podcast is my my pleasure

Justin Earl Ballard (01:00:46.082)
Thanks, Freddie.

Freddie Kimmel (01:00:47.545)
Thank you.