Life Is the Sport: Nervous System Capacity, Emotional Release, and Real Longevity | Dr. Sean Drake

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel (00:00.993)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the beautifully broken podcast. have a long awaited guest on our list that has been an audience requested guest, Dr. Sean Drake. Welcome to the show, Sean.

Dr. Sean Drake (00:14.35)
Friday's so happy to be here, We're gonna have a good morning.

Freddie Kimmel (00:16.203)
Yeah. I know, I know, I know, I know. So if we bumped into each other on a trail, we're out hiking in Arizona where you have your home base, what would you tell me you do for a living?

Dr. Sean Drake (00:28.91)
I would tell you that I am one of the leading experts in nervous system experience and that we are a state shifting clinic that's going to allow you to not only make the best version of yourself, but allow you to know that anything's possible and life is limitless.

Freddie Kimmel (00:49.047)
I like that. If I were looking for you on Google, what do I Google to find this state-shifting clinic?

Dr. Sean Drake (00:55.49)
Yeah. You know, it's funny cause like I'm trying to figure that out. Right. Cause we went from, cause I never thought I'd be back in practice after working with Titleist Performance Institute, AMBE SU and RacketFit. I thought that like that's where I was research Institute teaching consulting. And then 2020 happened and I like got thrown back in practice. And so I started with athlete chiropractic and then everybody was like, dude, you're more than a chiropractor.

Freddie Kimmel (00:59.341)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (01:23.8)
So then we rebrand athlete empowered. They're like, it still just doesn't do it. And then we started to really like think, okay, well what is it? And then we came up with the modern athlete with an E at the end of it. And everybody's like, is that just like, you know, foreign and French and this and that? And I go, no, it's like, it's very intentional. It's, you know, it's, it's electrical, it's efficient, it's effective. So there are, there's a lot of things that go into that E that people won't really realize, right? The electron.

and so if you're looking online, obviously people know me as a sports chiropractor, dealing with a lot of high end athletes. and I have the philosophy that Bill Bowerman says that if you have a body, you're an athlete. So, if if you're looking on Google right now, you're going to see a lot of things from brain concussion, you know, brain injury, brain recovery, brain healing. You're going to look at, probably, man, consulting on mental performance. You're going to see.

probably something along the lines of a soul shaman. You're to see everything from breath work to crazy experiences, extreme sports performance. So it's, it's just like, it's funny because I was talking with Dave Asprey about this and he, he was the one that kind of like said, dude, like start leaning into what you really do. And, and that's where I came up with this whole state shifting philosophy is that when, know, you are working with us, it's.

we're resetting your nervous system so that way you are in your best state no matter what it is. And we're going to talk a lot about this, but yeah, so that's kind of what you'd probably find online.

Freddie Kimmel (03:01.547)
Yeah, I mean I would just add and say that it's this idea of you create a container where people can transform. There's a transformative experience. And it's all where do you want to be? What do you want? You know, I've seen, I've been in your office a couple times and just seen, you know, there's some of the

top pitchers in the world and football players. And we've worked together on a couple of collaborations with the Kansas city chiefs and Miami dolphins and all these different fun, fun projects. So clearly, within that circle of influence, you're the guy people go to when they want to up level their performance. I do love that, that quote, that if you have a body, you're an athlete. Cause I, I think it's very true. It's like, well, you know, athletic performance, like that could be.

how long I'm able to carry four bags back from the grocery store and go get myself there to and from. That could be my performance for the day.

Dr. Sean Drake (04:01.39)
Yeah. Well, I tell everybody all the time, but it was funny because I was just in New York for our EQ flux wave and pro certification and Cheryl who's Sherrick's wife from Resimax was out in the lobby and she was hanging out there and I went and sat down with her. You know, obviously we had the national championship last night with, you know, Indiana and Miami, which is unbelievable to watch.

Freddie Kimmel (04:09.763)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Sean Drake (04:26.082)
And she's like, Sean, like, you know, like what's, what's your favorite sport to watch or what's your favorite sport? And I just looked at her and I said life. And, know, I tell people, I'm like, you're not training for a quote sport. Like life is a sport. And if you're not training, you're definitely degrading or lessening your opportunity to have that, that monumental moment of what we now call longevity. Right. And you know, it's, so funny that we.

Freddie Kimmel (04:51.107)
That's right.

Dr. Sean Drake (04:54.54)
We try to put words on.

the most simple things in life. And it's like, no, just move well, eat well, be around good people, have good epigenetic energy environment. And like, you're going to live longer. there's, you know, the more is not better. I'm always one of these people and I have like what 35, 40 modalities in my clinic. And the reason I have those is I need to know where you're at and then lift you up, bring you down, play like a roller coaster.

So yeah, it comes down to, know, everybody wants to live plus a hundred. I tell them, you don't want to live past 40 sometimes if you can't be functional. Like it's your job to stay functional. Then you can live to like, I think humans are going to live a lot longer than, than 150 at some point, especially with the technology advancements. If they're willing to deal with the emotional trauma within their bodies, if they're willing to work on the physical body.

if they're willing to slow down a little bit, really realize like, what is ultimate athletic performance, right? And that's life. And so there's a little bit of like my woo-woo philosophy.

Freddie Kimmel (06:11.107)
Yeah, I mean I see it all the time in like really trained individuals and it's I'm not so concerned with the number of how many years I get but when you see like a 74 year old that can still do muscle-ups and you know a hundred push you're like wow and then you you have another person in your immediate environment where like they don't get off the couch easy or they're they're they're stumbling to the bathroom in pain and

Dr. Sean Drake (06:34.508)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (06:38.659)
Man, what a different experience that we have. A lot of opportunity to make better choices, to just have that better quality of life. And if you think about, you know, this flag or this sail that is our purpose and that being impactful on the world, man, I want to be the guy doing the muscle ups when I'm 70, 72, 74, whatever.

Dr. Sean Drake (06:53.186)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Sean Drake (07:01.686)
I just want to jump out of airplanes and be at the top of mountains and playing with my, you you know, my wife and I, Kiki, we're going to start a little bit later in life, right? For kids. And so, you know, I think that that's going to bring an energy back inside me. That's going to help me go longer. Like kids give us energy and you know, I always say you have that childlike faith. Like my dad used to say it to me all the time and you know, whether it's biblical or not, like have childlike faith and be like, and bring that inner child out.

Freddie Kimmel (07:10.306)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (07:18.669)
Mmm.

Dr. Sean Drake (07:31.617)
And it's amazing what happens when you tap into what you used to love. you know, Lyle Maxson, you know, Daniel Rafael and Bryant Wood and I went to Disney World at the end, right before Christmas. you know, Bryant, do know, you know Bryant Wood and he's like one of our best friends was in my wedding, has been a huge proponent and leader in helping me transform. And Lyle's, you know, just awesome, you know,

Freddie Kimmel (07:36.757)
yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (07:49.827)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Sean Drake (08:00.267)
AI tech guy, like just unbelievable. And you got Dana Rafael, who's the wizard. And then you got me, right? So imagine the four of us at Disney World and Brian's like Sean and everything we do is experiential together. It's like, it's not like, we're going to go party in this place. It's like, when we set an idea of where to go, like there's a vision, there's an intention. You know, I was in charge of bio like quote bioefficiency, biohacking, making sure that I could get us through four parks in two days. Cause they know that I'm a psychopath on that.

And then like Lyle's job was like, okay, I got to have the snacks. then, you know, Daniel's job was like, okay, I got to make sure that I have the alchemy right. And then Brian's thing was like, I just want to have fun. And it was amazing to me how you took four guys who have really given all year and you know, we get to Disney world and it was a ceremony, like legitimate ceremony, the transformations that happened within us and the emotions and the physical, like because

So many things came up for me, like my dad died in 2020, right? And so now all of a sudden I'm in Disney World where he took me as a kid and he taught me how to like maneuver amusement parks. That was our thing together. And it was cool to share that with them and then to like see their sides of things. then like, you know, Disney was just phenomenal in just imagination. And like, I think we lose that so often now. And

All of sudden we end up in Epcot at the very end, right? So throughout this experience, and I hope this doesn't like, you know, turn a lot of listeners off, but I think it's a very cool concept, is that Brian's about to have a kid with his wife, Kat. This is our last like run before he has the kid. And, you know, we started out having fun and then we got into like Tron. It was like, just blew us into this like atmosphere, right? So it's almost like the sperm in a sense of this energetic like going after.

Freddie Kimmel (09:49.166)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (09:52.632)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (09:53.718)
And like the last night we're in Epcot and we end up in the big giant dome. And so now it's the egg and like, it's just this whole entire transformation. was just like, Whoa, what is going on? And I think it really is what we've created in our clinic is this magical experience of imagination. Like anything's possible. Like if you have the, like, if you have a dream and anyone I work with and like, I tell them,

This is the safest place that you will ever be to be yourself. I need you to feel everything. Because if you can't feel it, you can't heal it. And so I need you, if you need to cry, cry. If you need to laugh, laugh. If you need to scream, scream. If you need to break something, I'll send you to a rage room later and we'll go out back. But you know, it really comes down to these different mindsets of safety. And I think ultimately that's what true...

Freddie Kimmel (10:43.246)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (10:46.05)
healing and performance is. Are you safe in your body, your environment, and allowing yourself to really expand capacity within your nervous system?

Freddie Kimmel (10:55.384)
Yeah. Amen. I, there's so many things. One, I want to, let's stay there for a minute. I just, I had told you when we scheduled the podcast, I was like, okay, here's our date, blah, blah. Wish me luck. My bills are playing Denver on Saturday. And it was like many of the bill seasons have ended. Not, not just the loss, but it comes down to a play and you just feel.

Dr. Sean Drake (11:22.147)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (11:25.124)
Now, like you, I have like a family connection with the team. I'm from there. It's thing I share with my dad after every game I call my dad. I was like, what do you think? How do you feel? And so there's a great, well transcends football. But I don't know if you caught in the clips in the locker room, you see Josh Allen, you know, one of the greatest football players ever. He's just balling, balling. And then you go in and they go into the locker room and like Dion Dawkins is like,

crying and just the idea that their quarterback thought that he let the team down. They heard that and there's the whole team's bawling. And that atmosphere was created, that safe container was created by that coach, by Sean McDermott, who they just fired. And I'm so, it was like they lost and it was, it's sad to lose. And then, you know, you know, you know that

Dr. Sean Drake (12:11.394)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (12:24.068)
Culture exists because you have someone at the head office, someone who's overseeing that team, creating a culture that's okay to express emotion and feel. And that wouldn't have happened 15 years ago in football. It wasn't a thing. So to see the evolution of, or the absence of that toxic masculinity, those guys could have just been enraged and throwing helmets at the wall. They were letting us know how they felt.

And I thought that was such a milestone, marker for me, how things have changed in professional athletes in some locker rooms, right? I was really blown away.

Dr. Sean Drake (13:04.171)
Okay.

Can I go on that? I think this is a really good segue. I did a lot of work with Peter Levine's right-hand person back in the day in Waking the Tiger and Somatic, know, release and energy.

Freddie Kimmel (13:08.452)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (13:19.704)
Can you tell the audience Peter Levine just like a quick?

Dr. Sean Drake (13:22.126)
Yeah. So Peter Levine was by far way ahead of his time. And his philosophy is that, so animals, if you're a wildebeest, you're being chased by a lion and you know, you're to go into fight or flight. You're going to, and if you get away, you're like, cool, you shake it off and you forget that the lion was even chasing you as a human. Like we tend to not be able to let that energy go. So if you have all these fight or flight responses happen in your body, now all of a sudden they don't know where to go. So it crazy is like,

by product triggers. And so you start to have pain problems, issues, whatever we want to call them. And so his philosophy was within light touch and breath and communication, you're working that energy through the body and out of the body. so whether it's the body keeps score, these are books you guys can read.

This is a big part of this. think the thing is, that, you know, lot of my guys, like NFL is obviously almost over, right? And, you know, I work with some of the top sack guys in the world. So I work with Sack Summit with Cam, Vaughn and Max, and I go there every year for them. And then Duquan Jones, who's on the Bills. And like, you know, it's, I tell my guys, I'm like, after the season, I need you for three days. I need to cleanse your nervous system. You've got all this like pain problems, all these, you know, you're in like micro trauma.

car accidents every day. I'm like, I want you to go in the off season, cleanse with your family for your training. And, you know, last year I was working with one of the Eagles who ended up losing the Superbowl and you know, he got in here and it was just like this for two days straight, all we did was work on emotional regulation and then we got to the body. You know what I mean? So it's so often, you know, I think we're chasing the physical.

when we have that emotional mental side that's connected and like, that's really what the state change is, is it's how fast can you move the energy in the body out of the body because energy can't be created or destroyed. And so when you're able to move that, that friction energy and make it efficient energy, what's possible? Well, fricking anything, right?

Freddie Kimmel (15:28.514)
Yeah. Wait, last year, wait, last year, last year, Eagles won the Super Bowl, Chiefs lost.

Dr. Sean Drake (15:32.95)
Sorry. It was two years ago. Was it two? Two years ago, yeah. But like so angry about the playoff game. I get it mixed up. Like literally time doesn't exist in my life. I forget them. I just know that this is, yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (15:36.1)
two years ago.

Freddie Kimmel (15:41.581)
dude, I mean listen.

Freddie Kimmel (15:47.298)
Yeah. No, I mean, I feel those things. I literally had to sit down yesterday and Cynthia was like, what are you doing? was like, I gotta, I'm not good. I was like, I haven't let this go. And I really got up, you know, and my dad even said, he's like, oh, you know, this is so stupid. Why do I let it matter this much? And I literally sat down I was like, and when my dad asked me, he said, I know why it matters so much, because part of you is a warrior and you don't get to go to war.

Dr. Sean Drake (16:05.037)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (16:17.199)
But you can sit on that sideline or in that stadium and actively go to war with your team and you're loving out loud, you're screaming out loud, you're raging out loud. So if you're going to experience the agony of defeat, you know, you can also, we need to be able to have that elation of like the epic win. And so when you put it on the line in the arena, you feel it. It's like it really happens. You know, I could go into all the mirror neurons and everything. I was like, I'm like, I think it's okay.

Dr. Sean Drake (16:41.037)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (16:46.351)
for you to feel bad and to feel down for a few days. Yeah, so I really... I applaud you doing that work with the players. You also said, I want to jump back here for a second, you said EQ flux wave training. I just don't want to jump over that. What is that? What new kind of fangled toy is that?

Dr. Sean Drake (17:03.587)
Yeah.

So Joshua Clark is out of motion in New York City. He's a DPT. And ironically, we're both in the same mindset. He's very Eastern philosophy. So he's taught me a ton when it comes to the Oregon side of life, energy, meridians, things like that. Then you have me, who's on obviously the Western, a little bit like Eastern, but very like...

I'd say more our focus, right? Like physical.

and chiropractic and nervous system based. And they were using a device with like guided PMF, you know, electrons plus, which is a great device. And my wife was the third person to ever use it. And she's, you know, been helping people for years, right? Well, Josh came up with a device that is, manual PMF. It's alternating current, not DC current like the other device. And we've got, you know, basically like accessories now. So you

a wand, an infrared wand, so you're not putting that electron through your body as a conduit, which can dehydrate you and cause all these other things.

Freddie Kimmel (18:14.126)
dude, yeah, let's bookmark that but keep going.

Dr. Sean Drake (18:16.918)
Yeah. So when he, made it because he was like, I want to scale my business. And a lot of people that try to use the other one were like, I don't, I don't like how this feels to my body. Some people love it, but some people don't. And like, it also creates emotional when you're putting this much energy through your body. know, Kiki and I are wanting to have a baby and she's like, I really want to look at something else right now. And so when we got the first device, we were like, wow, this is pretty special.

And then we started giving ideas on accessories. And so we've got a one shop system now that you can literally assess, treat and train with from performance. And then we have our HighGauss new PMF system as well.

that goes to 20 Hertz and we've got damped oscillations, just not normal high Gauss PMF. So we ran our first, our third level one certification in New York with 27 practitioners that came in and it was a mind blowing experience. And it's in the way that this education works. tell people, they think they're coming just for education, but everybody transforms. I throw a breath work into it. We're going through all the things that we do in the clinic as well, because I tell people, like, when I teach, I want you to transform.

I want you to realize you are the modality and that through all these other modalities, you're only going to enhance what that can be.

Freddie Kimmel (19:37.862)
Yeah. Uh, and, and we'll let's, we'll swing around for the audience. And we've talked about this at least 20 episodes on pulsed electromagnetic field, pulsed electromagnetic field is a wave that moves through the body. It stimulates electrons, encourages the cell to do what the cell does better. It helps with energy, helps with microcirculation, helps the body release, um, in different ways. There's more than that, but that's a whole different podcast. How does, um,

EQ flux wave, how is that different? Now you said DC alternating current. Why is that important? What does that mean?

Dr. Sean Drake (20:11.704)
Yep. So when you look at direct current and there's some great devices, like I love newbie with new fit, right? Like Garrett's one. Yeah. No, it's a, it's a direct current and, but direct current just means that it's going in one direction. And so the high gal system that we have is a DC current. So it's a one, it's a field, right? So it's using DC current through that.

Freddie Kimmel (20:17.861)
which is electric, which is an electrical current, not a magnetic wave.

Freddie Kimmel (20:27.908)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (20:33.763)
Yep. And just to add in there, like a high-powered Gauss PMF device for people at home, if you've dabbled in these, that is one of the devices. You're going to see this big contraction in the muscle belly when you put the coil on a bicep or a quad or your glute or something like that. You're really going to feel this wave.

Dr. Sean Drake (20:55.31)
You are. And it all depends, right? Because the cool thing when you're working with a device that you can actually change hurts, I can keep it in low energy. so, you know, the reason that I love high gauss and I tell people this all the time is like, I've got a minimal amount of time with you sometimes. I've got to make a maximum amount of change. And if I, if I can increase energy and I can increase and know exactly what hurts you need in your system, I can transform you quicker.

Freddie Kimmel (21:04.419)
Yes, that's right.

Freddie Kimmel (21:13.429)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (21:24.57)
And for a lot of my elite athletes, they've got minimal times for recovery.

Freddie Kimmel (21:29.369)
I got six days.

Dr. Sean Drake (21:30.798)
You know five days. They've got a pitch again. They've got you know, they got a game in seven days So I have them purchase high gout systems and I coach them and train them on them to Ramp up before a game come down after a game know where they're at from a nervous system standpoint I've got a whole system that I've created on testing. Okay, where is your battery capacity in the body when I put you on a high gout system? What is your homeostasis where I have you first and then as we're building you is that going up or is it coming down and I know really quick

where to go within what we need to do on a power.

Freddie Kimmel (22:04.389)
Amazing. Amazing. They're really great tools. know, it's the first thing, it's the first big ticket item I had ever bought. Really sight unseen. And the system I went with was an amp coil, which is actually a low powered device where you don't get a contraction. But I had had wild transformation as far as scar tissue in my belly, just not, I just stopped getting obstructions. Just, I didn't know it was happening.

Dr. Sean Drake (22:28.398)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (22:30.821)
It was not why I bought the machine. It was actually because I had a really bad mold exposure that I wanted help with energy and fatigue at the time. But I'm such a believer in a pulsed electromagnetic field. It's, you know, if I had a top five, it's in there. And there's so many different ways that we can do it. Do you, you must, you see so many different body types and so many different people. You must see this, that

Dr. Sean Drake (22:37.902)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (22:58.935)
It's never gonna respond or be the similar result driven in different body types depending on what is existing in that terrain. Be it hydration, age, mineral balance, you know, all the... there's so many variables. Like, how do you look at it and how do you know to apply or change the time or change the device type that somebody needs?

Dr. Sean Drake (23:14.467)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (23:25.966)
Well, that comes down to like the art history of it, right? Being the artist. And so the first thing that I do is I put you on a full body system on your back. I see how high I can get you at the highest amount of energy to see it to where you're uncomfortable. So you're like, no, I can't, I don't want to go any further. Well, that tells me a lot about who you are and what your body can handle.

And so I'll mark that number and I'll say, okay, maybe you got to a 60. Well, I want you at like 85 to a hundred to be able to handle that amount of energy. If you're a high performer and everybody's training in life. So, you know, not everybody's going to get to a hundred, which is okay, but I, I definitely want you at 75 to 80 minimum on a decent timing level. Right.

There's times when my guys will come in, like, you know, say for instance, you've got a three day road trip, you come back and I put you on, I get you to like 30 and you're like, whoa, well I know that I need to leave you on there longer at a lower.

level to bring that capacity back up and then retest. The other side of it too is that you know I get a lot of clients will come in and they've got pain and I'm like they're like I don't even touch them for the first visit sometimes you know I'll assess them but then like they're going through a ton of modalities so I can get them into a safe state get them into a regulated state and you know I'll put high gas on them and you won't see the contraction you won't see anything move.

And you know, I have an open floor plan system. So I'll have a guy next to him. That's like their whole body's moving. And I'm like, you see that? And then they're like, yeah, I'm like, that is that you? And they're like, no, I'm like, so you don't get it yet because you're so depolarized and so dehydrated and so biochemically just not in tune. It's going to take some time. And then what I do is I literally sell the person next to him. Hey, tell them about your experience in the clinic. And I walk out.

Dr. Sean Drake (25:11.67)
Right? So it's building this rapport, this trust, this process. And it's amazing to me that when you really know how to assess the body, you really know where they're at emotionally, how you can get to the true cause of what they need.

And like there's some people I don't put on PMF because you know, they're in such high energy state. Like I'm like, okay, well let's get you into, into cold water. Let's get you in the sauna. Let's use, you know, you let's use the flow Presso. Let's get you into a parasympathetic state. Let me use some infrared to get deep into your body. I'm going to throw you on the rock Siva. I'm just going to go ahead and play some middle games with you. so there's a, or I might just throw you in the hyperbaric or throw you on, on the nano V or I might put you in the solar dome that I'm sitting in right now. Right. So just get you into this safe.

Like bring that energy down and then test you.

Freddie Kimmel (26:00.89)
Yeah, yeah, it is, is artistry. It is artistry. I get to, you know, we got a lot of the same tools and I get to play that way. And it is wild how people respond. had a girl in an event a month ago who literally got on, she got on amp coil and we have a mat and a coil and we pancaked her and it was like way too much. She goes, I'm, you know, she was high. She goes, my God, this feels good. This feels good.

Dr. Sean Drake (26:23.694)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (26:29.604)
She got so high, she was so ungrounded. You know, and so she just had to sit and we had to just park her and put a heating pad on her for infrared pad on for a little bit and just ground her back down and get her some cacao and put walker outside and barefoot and just she was fine. But I was like, that's so interesting because it's a low powered system.

Dr. Sean Drake (26:50.414)
So here's the thing, it is and it isn't, right? It's a low powered system to the average person, but to someone who's that dysregulated, it's a lot of energy, because they're not used to it, right? So I say this to that, it's like, sometimes you need to shock the system to re-regulate it.

Freddie Kimmel (26:53.093)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (26:56.463)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (27:00.378)
Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (27:10.254)
And you know, I don't look at that as a bad thing. Like sometimes people are like, now, if you're causing a Hertz reaction, that's a different story. Because like with PMF and a lot of modalities, you're releasing a lot of toxicity. You need to get that out of the body as well. But from an emotional, like spiritual sense, I'm like, I blast people to the moon sometimes on purpose, because they're so unalive. They're just robots walking around. They haven't felt, they haven't been in their body. And the minute that they feel that, they're like, whoa, okay.

And then all of a sudden emotional release happens or something triggers in creativity and now all of a sudden you get them back and we're like, all right, now I see you. And then I use the avatar side. I'm like, right, cool, you're back in your body.

Freddie Kimmel (27:53.787)
Yeah. Yeah, I tell you what, one thing that does it for me, it's incredible, is writing. I sat down yesterday when I wrote, you know, just my, I was like, want to write for an hour. I want to write on what this means to me, this experience, how I'm feeling, my dad, football, things. And I wrote it fine. And I'm going through the thought process and I'm structuring. And then when I read it, Cynthia's like, do you want to hear this? I get to the part, the middle part, and I'm bawling like a little baby because

I'm allowed to witness my own feelings. I mean like a baby. And then you just feel like that, you know, you've seen Fight Club. It's like, I could cry and then I could sleep. Like there is just a calmness in your body when you get a little bit of that out. And for me, it's one of the, you know, it's paper and a pen. I'm not biohacking, but.

Man does it work to get those feelings out of my tissue and let me move through something. It's incredible as a tool.

Dr. Sean Drake (28:55.446)
In our, in our three day program that I do with people when they fly in, they're journaling after every single experience and we're reprocessing and reprogramming, reprocessing, reprogramming. And, know, for the integration side, it's a lot of writing and, know, I think it's the ultimate biohack, right? Like, you know, if you're able to verbalize what you're feeling and seeing, that's when you can truly like start to transform.

Freddie Kimmel (29:13.808)
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Freddie Kimmel (29:21.242)
Yeah. Yeah, I want to talk about tendons and ligaments. This is something that's really interesting to me is, you know, somebody who's been through Lyme and biotoxin illness and all the things, that's been one area that I've really worked at to change how my, that the connective tissue in my body feels. And it's been a really, it's been a long road, but progressively always moved forward.

I'm reading all these things. You know, again, we'll just take it back to football because it's topical right now. We're about to go into the last round of the playoffs in the Super Bowl. You look at the injury list on the Bills and it was like 15 guys. Did you see the article that was like, you know, internet conspiracy on San Francisco where they've had the most tendon and ligament injuries? What was it like? Three, four X. I don't know the details of it, but there was, you know,

For the people that didn't see the article, you know, they're next to like some microprocessing plant that creates low-level electromagnetic radiation in the stadium. They're like, is that why this team is just brutalized? Their season was decided through injuries.

Dr. Sean Drake (30:37.452)
Yeah, I, you know, I've actually spoken about that article, right? You know,

Freddie Kimmel (30:43.219)
huh. Can you give us the details on it? Cause I bastardized it and-

Dr. Sean Drake (30:47.15)
No, no, you didn't bash out at all. But like, think about this, whether you're near a power plant or you've got, you know, major 5G, you know, areas around your house or you've got your router, like EMF exposure is bad. And it's different than pulse electromagnetic field, right? Like this is, this is the dark side of EMF. And, you know, people want to say woo woo, but I mean, you can look at Luke's story. Like if you really want to see a transformation of somebody who had the most amount of EMF exposure that really crashed.

I tell my clients all the time, like I use several companies with my clients. Like I use Leela Q, I use Defender Shield, I use iPyramids. I have different types of stuff. put grounding sheets, Faraday cage kind of work. So to me, we've gotten away from nature and that is the most grounding electromagnetic healthy that we have.

And when you look at having a stadium or a home or an apartment and you've got all of this bad frequency running through your body, well, it's a dysregulation. And so, you know, I think it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. There's a lot of top podcasters and people going after this right now and talking about it. But basically this plant puts out a ton of bad energy and you know, they're, and they'll argue on the other side and that it's not bad energy.

Freddie Kimmel (32:04.9)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (32:10.446)
And so, you know, just get two plants and like once this one plant starts dying, take it out and put it in the sun and bring it back to life. Don't fully kill it. But like put one plant or water next to it and leave it there near a router and take the other one and put it outside or put it near a window that, know, and then all of a sudden watch and see what happens and start pouring that water into it.

And this is an experiment that I've done multiple times, but yeah, you've got to understand that like what you're around, like my players, you know, I have them do, you know, travel with grounding sheets. have them, you know, using beanies that block 5G when they're flying. Like, you know, so I have clothing that I refer them out to that says, protect your body because this stuff's real.

Freddie Kimmel (32:57.019)
Yeah. mean, here's the only... and I don't know, you know, again, I'm not an engineer, but I could tell you that if I've seen enough people have dramatic healing results using pulse electromagnetic field, which is FDA approved for non-union fractures, and now there's another... a myriad of other devices that are both... that are now...

not approved, but they are safe for use in humans, specifically going into the LPGA now, you gotta say, what's the flip side of it? How can they be, how can it, because everything, right? Like, water is a medicine. You can kill yourself by drinking too much water, right? There's a medicinal and therapeutic dose. Especially if you get into like a quantum physics, like what is the coherence of the field? I think that

from a layman, it doesn't need to be ionizing radiation that is breaking apart DNA. It can be enough of a noisy signal to disorganize the body's organizing principle that is trying to heal those injuries and those are players in competitive sports. So the idea that they're getting this small amount of poison every single time they're in the stadium and they've got an injury, can that contribute to this long-term damage? I think it's like

Dr. Sean Drake (34:03.778)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (34:20.411)
I mean dude, if I was that coach, I'd be like, we're building a concrete lead wall around this side of the stadium. Why would you risk it with that much money on the line?

Dr. Sean Drake (34:30.872)
Well, it's crazy to me too. It's like, sometimes, especially when we're in big cities, we don't have that option, right? So it's like, how do we build these into these facilities now? And I think like, you know, one of the reasons that Josh is so successful in New York is that you have so much of that going on. And when they get into this clinic, they're able to get that ground and get that out.

Freddie Kimmel (34:39.771)
That's right.

Freddie Kimmel (34:43.42)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (34:57.216)
And so those people see such a massive result in their life and all of a sudden, you know, they start to have a better life and they refer somebody else and it keeps going and keeps going and keeps going. but that's why the traditional practice in my opinion is dying.

because we have so much of this now, you know, you've got to be able to influence the nervous system in a different way. And you've got to give people a safe place to just come down and be able to be, and get out of that noise. so, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out going to, you know, to ligaments talking about that. You know, I'm a huge fan of shockwave and, focus and STEM.

microcurrent, know, doing microvibration like the Juvent. You know, when somebody's got a quote, ligament or, you know, bone injury, I'm using the Juvent because it's microvibration. So I can create strength and stability through the system. I'm not putting them on a power plate right off the bat or a high vibration system.

Freddie Kimmel (35:53.064)
Can you bookmark that and just say, again for the audience, Juvent is a vibration tool, but so is Power Play. People may know Power Play. It's the big red one that you'll see a lot of professional athletes using. It's probably like the play that has the most research around it that's published that people are drawing claims from that vibration, you know, here's the thing. You go to a wellness show that you and I have both been to and you've got things like Power Play, which is like...

very well researched and established. And then you've got these knockoffs from China where it's every claim in the world that they say, heals your bones, drains your lymph, supports muscle, clears brain fog. And it's just, and they're the big wobbly ones with like the one inch wobble. Let's talk about that for a second, cause it's a good hot topic.

Dr. Sean Drake (36:39.982)
Well, I have all three of them, right? Like, and I use them differently. I don't think there's a one size fit all for everybody. And, you know, ultimately, like when you're starting with me, my whole job is to get you safe in your body, to give you that stimulus. Well, if you've been bashed up all season, why the hell am I gonna put you on something that's gonna like give you high vibration and a trigger emotionally potentially of that bashing? Like to where you're guarding, you're trying to figure out how to like do it.

Freddie Kimmel (36:47.131)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (37:03.687)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Sean Drake (37:08.652)
versus Juvent in a microcurrents or micro vibrational side where you're like, this doesn't really like feel like it's doing much, but then the next day you're like, dude, I'm sore. I'm like, yeah, that's called low. So it's actually, it's a great comparison. I never thought of it like this until we were talking right now, Freddie. It's like low gas and high gas. You know what I mean? I really think this is what it is. And same thing in the vibrational toning. you're not, if you're not a Ferrari, you're not going to go, you're not going to

Freddie Kimmel (37:27.719)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Sean Drake (37:38.51)
train like a camera. If you're a camera, you're wanna take care of the camera so you don't blow it up. And so, you know, to me, for lymphatics, I think the ones that go right to left are phenomenal. I really do. Because it allows this tangential movement within the joints, which opens up the lymph, which allows it, and then I immediately, what I do is I actually put them in Flo Presso, then I'll put them in the sauna, then I'll put them on a vibrational plate.

And so I'm using this push effect, right? And I don't even use Juven with them on that one. I just get them into movement because I get the jiggling. And I'm like, okay, I like the jiggle. Cool, you feel good, you had fun. And it's not a lot of time. I think we overdo it.

Freddie Kimmel (38:08.657)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Sean Drake (38:21.558)
And then the body crashes. So when you're looking at vibration, these are some of the things that I think about all the time. Number one, I test you. I use a lot of muscle testing as well, like just joint lock, not like pure AK, but where's your nervous system at? And then I'll turn the frequency up on me. And I have a giant power plate in here to where I can really work a guy through, through isometric and strength and everything else. But I'll test. if all of sudden I get to 30 and you're like,

I'm like, that's all your nervous system can handle. This is where we're going to work today.

Freddie Kimmel (38:57.148)
make sense. the, so the, if we just compare the two, the power play again is this one where more people may know how is Juvent different? Like what is, what do mean when you say micro vibration?

Dr. Sean Drake (39:09.966)
So the way that they have developed it and I actually called BS on it for a while. And then I was like, you know what? I'm finally going to buy one. And so I got it and I got in like got my mom one and it was really my mom because she had lime, all this stuff that like I saw some transformation and she's like, Sean, I'm walking up the stairs better. I'm, you know, I'm able to get to my coffee easier. I got to the beach today. Like

Freddie Kimmel (39:16.594)
Uh-huh.

Dr. Sean Drake (39:39.426)
And this was before hip replacement. And then I'm like, okay, so I use it for a week. And then I'm like, all right, I'm going to test this. And so I took like four of my golfers at the time. And I'm like, I just need you guys to come do this like project with me. I'm like, we're still going to do our enough. You're just going to stand on the scene for 20 minutes. And then I want you to go to the practice round and every single one of them is like, holy crap, my exit VLO increased.

on my ball, my ball speed, my spin, all these things. And it's a grounding effect, right? So it's using a lower energy of vibration and it's allowing the body to stabilize as that's moving through the body.

versus the high, like the vibe plate, which I still love. Like whether it's a vibe plate, power plate, high vibrational toning. The reason that I love that is that you're now training the nervous system. So there's two effects here. You you can, you can lock out a capacity on a certain energy system. Well, then how do I get you to the next level and then rebalance you out and then get you to the next level. So this is where stress and strain comes into play.

Freddie Kimmel (40:45.702)
Yeah, it's important. What about in your practice, in your clinic, do you ever get into the realm of these regenerative signaling molecules like peptides, like exosomes? sure... I know some of the guidelines within different sporting communities do not allow these things during season. Is that something you have a conversation with people about?

Dr. Sean Drake (41:10.958)
all the time. I I refer a lot out for that, right? Like I like to stay in my lane and know what my expertise is. And the reason being is that, yeah, I'm good at it. I've taken all the courses. I understand it. But that's not my passion either, right?

Freddie Kimmel (41:14.632)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (41:26.316)
And if I can refer to my buddy, who's one of the best, like, you we brought my wife's dad out this week and we're doing a specialized stem cell exosome for dementia, you know, and he's come up with a procedure going through the nose to get into the brain. and doc that's Dr. Chris. And then I've got Dr. John Oliver on the other side here locally who worked with bioxcellerator down in Columbia, who's now opened his own clinic.

He's one of the leading experts. I've got a doc in San Diego. I've got Origins down in Panama. I've got different people around the world that are experts in this type of realm. And I think from a regenerative approach, why would you not? It makes no sense to me, especially if you wanna maximize now. But again, I think it's a fad in some ways, because everybody's just like, I'm just gonna start taking this stuff. And I tell some people, I'm like,

Freddie Kimmel (42:04.796)
Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (42:16.258)
you don't know why you're taking it and you're just going to take it like, yeah, okay. It might move to a certain part in the body, but like, make sure you know where you're getting your stuff because there is crap out there and anything you're putting in your body, you want it's a foreign object. So it's going to have a signal. but you know, I'm STEM region for instance, right? Like, you know, create Dr. Christian who I love and like, you know, lying over there.

I've been using a lot of the STEM region, you know, programming, and I found a huge, huge difference in myself and my certain clients. They're like, Hey, I can take it. And they're sport certified. So I'm helping them get into the sport world right now, because these athletes should be on this stuff every day.

Freddie Kimmel (42:58.408)
Yeah, 100%. I have had a great experience with stem regent and I've stopped and started it night and day, night and day. And the only reason I just budget, right? I budget. I'm like, okay, well I'll do it for a few months and I'll take a time, some time off and I'll go back on. But what's been really profound and it's a non-negotiable is my puppy. And we give him a pill in the morning and at night, dude, we ran out of it for a few weeks.

I'm telling you, he's sleeping longer, wasn't up, wasn't like hopping, and this dog's gonna be 16 years old. I post on social media all the time, he gets red light, he gets pulsed electromagnetic field, and he gets stem regen and beam minerals. And this dog is, everybody says they're like, I can't believe that dog's 16. They don't have a placebo, they're not attached to the result. This guy, he's like hopping up, he hops onto the pad this morning, this morning.

Dr. Sean Drake (43:44.247)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (43:52.233)
He got on, he scratches the pillow in front of the red light. He's like, turn it on, dude. And then he curls up in front of the red light and takes like a 20, 30 minute nap. I mean, he asks for this stuff. He'll go lay down in the pad that's under his dog bed for the PMF in the morning. It's really, it's really wild, but stopping, stopping the STEM regen was for me, it was like, and I know it works, but it was the final, it was like, man, there's a difference in this puppy.

Dr. Sean Drake (44:08.877)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (44:22.29)
Pretty wild. Pretty wild. Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (44:22.474)
Yeah. Well, I have an eight year old shepherd, right?

He's like a two year old, like he, he's in the clinic every day. He's, he just goes everywhere with us. But people are like, people are like, how the heck is your dog so alive? And like, how are you guys so alive? I'm like, we live what we say. And you know, and he, like you said, he gets PMF. He's, use on Echo Soul now dog soul. Like we have a red light vest for him. And you know, I, I'm a huge, my dog is my baby. And I, and I love, I work on a lot of babies as well in my clinic, actually.

Freddie Kimmel (44:30.758)
Yeah, yeah. Such a cute dog.

Freddie Kimmel (44:47.89)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (44:56.342)
ironically, it's my passion because I want to build the best athletes in the world. you know, animals and kids are not going to lie to you. And when you see the effect when you work on them without them having to think.

It's amazing to see how quickly results happen. Like I had a, a malinwan here last week that this lady brought me who had had a botched surgery and I used Resimax. They have a resi pet system. I used Resimax. I use high gals PMF. I use a little shockwave and then this dog was just like running around our clinic and I told her, I'm like, buy some STEM regen. Like just start giving it to them. Wizard sciences, they have a phenomenal product.

that is quantum based as well. And that's what our dog gets. And people are like, and I'm like, I'm just telling you what we do. Like I'm not, and the thing is I don't need your commission. Go get it. Like this is really what we do. And at the end of the day, I think so many people try to like promote products. We actually use all of our products. Like my staff, my friends will tell you, go travel with Sean. Like, you know, on the flight, I've got a red light on my stomach. I've got our EMF map.

Freddie Kimmel (46:01.245)
Mmm.

Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (46:10.567)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (46:11.278)
I've got my little floppressor vibration tool that I'm working on my lymphatics. And I think, what is that? are you? And then you explain to that, cool. But yeah, so I think comes down to live to actually what you do.

Freddie Kimmel (46:17.203)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (46:25.449)
100 % yeah. I know I just I just had a company I've been using a red light helmet you know that's actually not visible red light it's called the Neuronic it's 1070 and it targets the microglia and I I didn't want to promote it but I was like I called him in like two weeks I was like I literally feel like I feel moot I feel tingly in my brain I feel awake

When I play the sleep program that pulses 40 Hertz, I'm immediately downregulated. was like, guys, this thing works. And I posted a video and they ran it on their social media and the comments were so negative. They were like, paid influencer, you loser, this is not science. was like, man, I don't know if they're bots or what. It was so negative feedback on this thing. I mean, so negative.

Dr. Sean Drake (47:00.099)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (47:07.724)
Yeah, controls.

Freddie Kimmel (47:21.075)
But I was like, guys, this is actually, know, at the end of the night when Cynthia wants to snuggle, she's like, you're putting the helmet on. Are you really doing all this? I'm like, yeah. I got a bench behind the couch, which is lined up. Nano V is parked there. I got the red light helmet. I got the Avacyn mitt. If I want to work on pain, whatever I'm going to do. But it's all accessible. And I've got this great little flow now in the house where it's like the bigger things are out in the biohacking lounge. I got some stuff behind the couch. I got an amp coil by the bed.

Right? I got a flowpresso room. It's all, if I want to go, if I need it, it's in the flow. I've designed it into my daily modern lifestyle. So it's not, I'm not necessarily taking all this extra time. If I go work or I write or I do a show, I can hook up to something and just be kind of vibing and moving some electrons while I'm choosing to be sedentary. Yeah. Sean, we got to cut it off here.

Dr. Sean Drake (48:00.771)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (48:14.894)
100%.

Dr. Sean Drake (48:18.765)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (48:20.199)
Let's do a part two. Let's do a part two. So fun. What a great way to spend my morning. I'm so thankful for you. And we'll do a part two. We will not make people wait long. We'll get on in like the next two weeks.

Dr. Sean Drake (48:21.6)
I'm down.

Dr. Sean Drake (48:33.922)
Calm down. Let's, let's, let's roll with this. And, you know, one thing I got to say about you, man, is,

There's two things I want to say. You are somebody who has truly gone through it and the darkest of the dark from cancer to thriving. I mean, look at you, 48. You look like you're fricking 30. What's up, Ty? And I want to applaud you for this mission that you've created because this podcast has changed a lot of lives. And...

You know, this negativity that's going on in these professions and our profession in this biohacking world with talking crap about other companies. I'm going to applaud and like applaud you on being the UN and bringing people together. and for those companies that are listening and you know who you are, and you know what you've done, I'm going to challenge you to level up this year.

Freddie Kimmel (49:10.995)
Yeah.

Dr. Sean Drake (49:31.478)
to it's not about attacking, it's about growing together. It's about being together. It's about truly saying, look, we have our baby and that's cool, but we can still work together. We can still grow together. We can still transform lives together. And you know, for trollers out there, I saw an Instagram post the other day where they're like, it was a joke, but like they're pulling up and then it would go after the troller, right? Like he's like, I can beat up an MMA guy and they bring an MMA guy.

Think about what you speak, your words, your actions. They come back to you. And in the end of day, let's be about love this year and transform. And I'll see you in two weeks on part two. You too. Later homie.

Freddie Kimmel (50:03.774)

Yeah, love you buddy. Have a great morning. Have a great day in clinic. We'll talk soon. Peace.