Peptides 101: Boost Sleep, Immunity & Energy with Precision Molecules | Dr. Adam Boender

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Team today we're talking with my friend Doctor Adam from Legacy Bioscience about peptides, nature's cellular communicators that are revolutionizing health optimization.
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That's not true.
It's the beautifully broken podcast.
I'm here with my favorite doctor, Adam.
Wait.
Yes.
Adam, is your name spelled Ron?
No, it's spelled right.
Doctor Adam.
Boonder, BOENDER.
I've always pronounced your name.
2:18
I've said Bodner.
Yeah, you know, I get Bender Boender.
And then if you really want to go all the way back to my wedding reception dinner, it actually they put that boner party.
I'm like, how do you miss 2 letters?
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I don't understand it but OK.
I love it.
I love it.
Classic, classic.
Welcome to the show and thank you for being here.
Thank you for taking time out of your very, very full schedule.
Full schedule by design because I know you are a person who is filled with tons of purpose in life.
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Yeah, it's, you know, when God calls us to something, we've got to fulfill it and we just got to keep going and don't let anything stop us, right?
That's right.
That's right.
So we're going to talk peptides today and we we've done a peptide talk, I want to say probably two years ago we had Natalie Denham on and we just we dipped our toes in the water and we did talk about different peptides that you can do orally injectables.
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But I want to jump into the topic, if you could start us off at a beginner level, what is a peptide?
Yeah, no.
So peptides by nature, well, first thing that I always like to explain is that everybody has peptides in their body right now.
So we hear about peptides that we're ingesting or we're injecting or all these different things, but have peptides, Simply put, or they're communication molecules that allow our body and our cells to truly communicate.
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So we've all heard of amino acids, amino acids, or just that, like lysine, glycine, and all these different things.
But when you combine amino acids together with these very specific bonds, a chain of amino acids creates a peptide, usually between 4 amino acids.
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I mean, you can go all the way up to 150 different amino acids long.
And so amino acids bound together are a peptide.
And then if we take it further, peptides combined together then create proteins.
Now we've all heard of proteins, so and all of those are different forms of communicators within our system.
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So our bodies can utilize from amino acids, peptides and even proteins.
Yeah, so I love this.
I love that this is going in, in this way into the conversation.
So do I, Adam, like if I'm a complete being, right?
Like I, I should have everything I need to heal, you know, as a human being, do I have a peptide deficiency?
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Why would I need a peptide?
I don't think that anybody has deficiency.
In fact, I don't think anybody has deficiencies in anything, you know, 'cause we hear of, you know, from like hormone deficiencies or all of these.
I mean, again, we can talk about deficiencies all day long.
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I think that it comes down to efficiencies that we have a lack of efficiency within our system.
You know, there is, it's very well known in research that, you know, we have things called cellular exhaustion.
We have stem cell exhaustion.
We have just exhaustion, exhaustion, right?
5:16
I mean, people get exhausted if we think of the physical exhaustion that we can carry on a daily basis, mental exhaustion, you name it.
Now take that all the way down, not just to a cellular level, but an intracellular level.
What if our mitochondria is exhausted?
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What if our, our stem cells that allow replication in a sense new life, new production of other cells, if they become exhausted, they're going to be less efficient.
And so in a sense, our turnover happens slower.
There's actually a thing called the Hayflick limit.
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And, and that's actually the research that shows every cell in our body has a very specific like turnover limit, meaning that it's only going to replicate a certain number of times.
And every time that replication happens, the DNA, the RNA kind of adjusts and changes a little bit, Our telomeres begin to shrink.
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And so eventually, when our cells reach that limit and the telomeres reach that end, well, that's the death of it.
So but yeah, I, I don't think there's a deficiency at all.
I think that we are made purely to heal, to survive, to thrive, to combat all these things that come at us.
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But, you know, we all know that when we're exhausted, when we're stressed, when we have these things, we don't function as human beings as well as we could.
Now if you take that down again on a cellular level or an intracellular level, think about all those components not working efficiently and communicating and functioning the way that they should.
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So I mean, I think that's where the state of dis ease comes into play.
And then we call those diseases when it's only just a dis ease between that communication and the environment that it's in.
Yeah, I think about it when I think about a peptide.
I think about if I were to open up the book, Harry Potter and I were to take out all the does, yeah, and still try to make sense of the story, that it would be probably be there to a degree, but it'd be really chunky.
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And so if we think about this idea like a signaling molecule or helping with the communication network, as you said, the body is designed to heal, to regenerate, but that gets broken up that communication.
So can we talk about that a little bit and how a peptide may solve for that?
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Yeah, Yeah.
So I mean, I want to first say like peptides aren't made truly and this is perfect within this.
They're not made to fix a broken system.
They're made to optimize a system that we have.
And so, yeah, if you take out those does, I mean, I say all healing is it is it's it's like a book.
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If you're missing certain parts, it's kind of like, so I I don't speak Spanish.
I know a couple things, but if you do and you're talking to me, you're saying things that I should know, but it's just not processing.
The words are still the words.
They mean the same thing.
It's just that there is a a lack of that communication.
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And ultimately I think like health in of itself, health is the ability to heal.
I mean, that's really what it comes down to.
It's ultimate function physically, mentally, socially, spiritually, not just the absence of disease.
It's about communication and the downfalls of really what happens in our health is that we don't have the right resources, OK, so we need the right resources.
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The orchestration of those resources is not happening properly.
We have an environment that is not good both from internal and external factors and then the communication breaks down.
So there's really like, to me, there's four components of true health and healing.
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Well, what are peptides?
They are ultimate in a sense, optimizers to give your body the resources to then orchestrate the system to whether it's clean up an environment, direct a pathway.
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And they are very, very specific in what they do.
Peptides are made for very specific purpose and so I talked about, you know, peptides for purpose, it's, you know, tiny, tiny molecules that have a dramatic effect because you can direct, you know, peptide therapeutically towards sleep recovery, joint health, I mean cancer.
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Again, this is what the research is showing.
So there's peptides that are made very specifically that again, our body already makes them.
It's just the exhaustion that happens the and there's not even the lack, but the lack of efficiency of those peptides is not allowing it to do what it used to wants to.
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So that's really kind of the the partnership of peptides within the body again can create better efficiency of that communication to allow the right process to happen.
Adam, I talk a lot about, you know, I say this often on the on the platform that people often reach out and they're looking for, they're looking for a moon shot.
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You know, it's someone in very sick, late stage chronic illness, you know what have you?
And I will, I will say, you know, there's definitely places that where you can go to get, you know, it's like the Hail Mary treatment.
And it's my understanding that again, this body is a system needs this like biological blueprint in which there are these non, non negotiables, IE, you know, I need to oxygenate the system through proper breath, you know, proper nasal breathing, boost nitric oxide, a whole food nutrition, time in colds, time in warmth, community and purpose.
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When these are not in place, when this blueprint is not existing because we're in an epidemic of chronic illness.
Do peptides, can they still deliver?
Again, can they still facilitate this terrain where healing is possible, even if we've got all these lifestyle things out of alignment?
10:51
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think any of the things that you've mentioned, I mean, we've, I've been really kind of on this, this kick of trying to eliminate this term biohacking, you know, and, and I know we talk about this a lot.
In fact, I sometimes will carry, I told you I carried an axe around at the last conference.
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That was, that was like, we got to stop hacking things into place, you know, because in a sense, hacking is, is a forceful nature, not a finesse nature.
And our bodies are made to have finesse.
I mean, it's probably the most complicated thing on this earth.
And it's communication pathways and networks that truly there is no one thing that is going to be like the magic bullet no matter what we're told or what we think and what new thing is happening from, you know, we need the cold, we need the warmth, we need all of these different things.
11:39
I mean, ultimately, you break it down to its simplest form.
It's like you go outside for sun, you know, you put your feet on the ground.
Peptides can still be utilized when our bodies in a state of chaos because a lot of times, you know, our bodies, they're creating these peptides.
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There's certain peptides that are coming from like the thymus gland.
But as we age, that thymus gland begins to deteriorate and goes away.
And So what we used to be able to utilize, we can't anymore because that organ is technically gone.
Well, what if we could still in in a way create that exact same peptide that was released by the thymus gland to elicit a response that it once did before, like thymosin A1, which is huge for immune system function.
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And there's tremendous amount of research showing that it supports things like cancer increasing in K cells or natural killer cell therapy T cells naturally within the body because of the the effects that it has by hitting very specific receptors.
So even in in a sense like a bad environment that we may have or a toxic environment, it can still know will it always work as efficiently or does it always happen immediately?
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No, it takes time just like aging in and of itself is a has its own timeline that we are slowly kind of degenerating faster than regenerating.
Peptides still aren't a magic bullet.
They're just a part of the piece that I think that you need to me ultimately a little bit of all of them.
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And so I I think they're good add-ons to bio optimize really where you want to be.
So and they're very specific to that.
So let's say somebody is going through all this stuff and they're whether a healing center, they're going through these things and you know, they just they're not hitting the sleep like they need to, which is obviously essentially just, you know, peptides like D sip delta sleep inducing peptide was actually researched and found for people dealing with jet lag, helping them to get faster recovery of sleep, getting into that deep REM sleep much quicker.
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So yeah, there's there's a lot of different things that can truly just in a sense optimize the other things that you're doing.
Hopefully that answered that.
I go down menu rabbit holes.
I get excited on a lot of this stuff.
It, it did you know, this is the beauty of the conversational format is that we can go off track.
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And luckily, you know, I've done 232 of these.
I will always pull us back.
So don't worry about going down rabbit hole.
A lot of times we find ourselves in a divine, magical place.
Yeah, well, and we also don't have much hair to block anything, so it gets right in there, you know?
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It goes right in.
I I also love the way that you frame that.
And for me, coming from my lived experience, I was one of those people.
So until I had an experience with a really good PEMF device or you know, I had done, oh, I had this manual drainage therapist or someone worked on my scar tissue and I had this huge improvement.
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All of a sudden I had this experience where I knew I could do it.
And I, it had been so long of me trying like all of these stabs in the dark, you know, a lot of times with little to no education, self application, self administering, great treatments, great modalities.
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I could say ozone therapy was one where, you know, I never had a great guide and until I went to actually went to one of your trainings, you know, I really learned.
I was like, oh man, was I, I was so close.
And if I had just done this with a little more intentionality and a little more purpose, that probably would have been one of the absolute game changers for me.
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You know, not that it wasn't good, but it could have been great.
And I want to dig into this, like you said, peptides with purpose.
Like how does one approach this world 'cause I said to you and I said to your business partner that my experience with peptides has not been great.
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I listen to a podcaster, I get super stoked.
I'm like, oh, I'm going to buy this and that and that and I'm going to healed like Wolverine and you know, now I could be the sourcing could be how is measuring could be how is doing it, but I didn't have an amazing result.
So how do we engineer for that?
15:46
Yeah.
I think like anything else, I mean, we all start a journey at some point and it usually just starts with research.
I mean, we see something that's like, I have a problem, I see something that could be a solution and we start going into it.
But we are so bombarded by so many different things today, especially in the world that we live in with, I mean, every different social media outlet that we have, there's a different solution.
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I, I, I got into this ultimately because, you know, my wife and we've talked about this with chronic Lyme disease, the mold toxicity, I mean that the things that she had suffered from, from seizures for hours on end, you know, and, and so our journey has LED us from, from ozone therapy to, to stem cells, exosomes, hyperbarics, vitamin IV therapy.
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And if I, I tell anybody that we've tried it all, I mean, we have tried it all.
And I went into a lot of these things before I even knew what half of them were.
And so I, I think that, you know, when it comes to peptides, the first thing, you know, what you, you did mention this and it was as a quick like, you know, who knows if it's good or bad, You know, the product that you're putting in your body.
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And I think that's one of the first things that you want to check on is making sure that a product that you're putting in it actually comes from a good source.
There's so many products that are brought in specifically in the peptide industry today that are not clean, they're not pure.
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You want to make sure that you have something that is, is something to me, I would say a source, you know, from the US, not coming from outside.
There's great things that come from outside of the US as well, but they don't have the same regulatory as much as you know, there are some three letter entities that I'm not huge fans of.
17:25
One of the things that there is, is the to make sure that things are, are safe and that the quality of things that you're getting are safe and reputable.
With peptides, it's, it's important.
I mean, if you're injecting something subcutaneously into your body, you want to make sure that that product is clean and that it's pure.
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So, and one of the first things that I, I tell people to check for, and I know this is a, it's simple, but it's very true.
The cost of the product that you're actually putting into your body, if it is cheap, then technically you're going to be paying twice because you're not getting what you're actually getting in that vial.
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And the second is that you're probably causing more harm to your body with bad reactions, endotoxins, you don't know.
And so I would say cheap costs twice as much.
And because then you're trying to fix the problem that it actually caused if you didn't invest in the right thing in the beginning.
18:15
And it happens when I was treating patients a lot and they were trying to get off medications and going through all this.
And I always said it was like, sometimes we have to treat what that medication did to you before we can actually get to the underlying issue as to why this issue is actually happening in the 1st place.
18:32
So there's different things there, you know, sources for that.
I mean, I have a great source.
It's actually peptideresearcher.com.
There's a really cool guy, he's bald that writes stuff and then he puts it online.
That's so that people can have a source for legitimate information.
18:48
And and then I think reconstitution is a big one.
Knowing what you're actually putting into your body dosage wise is essential.
You'll find so much research out there.
So again, seeking out that help.
There's next level is a Consulting Group that we work with as well that helps guide people along the road for that.
19:08
But I was start peptide researcher, start diving in and if you are going to utilize peptides yourself, and even if you're working with a physician and, and you're going through this, I would always say start low.
Don't you know, everybody's like, I want to go after this again, peptides are very precise, but you're working in a, in a realm of where we're used to medications and like vitamin IDs where you get like a 500 a thousand CC bag and you're getting, you know, 1234 grams of something.
19:38
Sometimes it's milligrams with peptides, it's micrograms, such small amounts.
And that's why I say, you know, there these little things that can create such dramatic results.
It's a quantum experience, I would say is, is it gets in there and it does what it needs to do.
So research you've got to figure out for yourself.
19:56
But I mean, there are sources like myself and in peptideresearcher.com that have great information and it's it's and again, it's research based.
What does the research support for specific things?
You know, there are peptides that are for for like healing.
20:12
I mean you talk about The Wolverine, which is typically like this BPC 157.
Everybody hears about body protection compound.
I will tell you one thing about peptides is they all have crazy names.
There's peptides like SLU, DASH, PP-332, really cool peptide.
In fact, people call it exercise in a bottle.
20:30
So it's an exercise mimicker and made for metabolic health and out of the market a lot right now, but we're working at at some development within that you see comes from the gut lining and gastric juices.
We know that the gut has quick turnover for healing and restoration.
20:46
So utilizing something that can be pulled from that, it increases endothelial nitric oxide, helps with vascularity, helps with blood flow, and it does help with a lot of tendon ligament anti-inflammatory effects.
So yeah.
And I think one of the great places to start would be listening to this podcast to learn more about peptides.
21:06
Yeah, yeah.
So you said peptideresearcher.com.
We'll definitely put all of these in the resources.
We'll go back and scan these, Adam.
So that's also been my experience when I think the one thing that I ever had my doctor compound for me, we did a compounded version of trisepatide and really small.
21:28
It was like, I think I told you, it's like 10 ticks on a insulin needle really small.
And I, you know, I mean, that was too much for me the first time.
The first time I had, no, I mean, Adam, I looked at food, I was like, don't want it.
21:44
You know, I could feel everything get a little tight in my gut.
I was like, I don't want food.
I don't even want to, It sounds awful.
And so for like 4 days, you know, my system just kind of intestinal system, intestinal motility also slowed down for me, which is bad with the scar tissue.
So I had a really strong reaction and found I had to, I had to cut that in half.
22:05
But I have noticed, you know, now I'm not using it for weight loss.
I'm not obese.
I was using it for just kind of low level systemic inflammation to see what happened with that.
I'd had some good luck with like rapamycin, but I didn't like all the side effects of that.
He was like, let's play with some peptides and I'm on a little little low dose one time a week, little little microgram and I'm really impressed.
22:30
Like I can, it's the first time I've ever done a peptide and I've been like, man, I can't believe how little the dose is.
That has an impact on me.
Yeah, it's, it's crazy, You know, I mean, you can think of it like an Ant.
Ants are so small, but they can lift what, like 100 times their body weight?
22:46
That's right.
Peptides are in a sense kind of like that.
I, I actually explain a lot to clients when I'm teaching.
Is that also peptides are they're like reading glasses, all right?
They're not going to weaken your eyes, but they're going to help focus what you need, you know, obviously reading and and so on.
23:03
But like peptides are that same way.
It's not going to weaken an environment that they're put in because people ask that a lot like, well, if I use this, is it going to weaken whatever natural peptide I already have and slow down that process.
And I say no because it's only there to optimize what's actually happening.
23:21
A great example of that are like growth hormone secreting peptides people have heard of like CJC 1295, hypomarellin, tessamerellin, surmarellin.
These create pulsative effects within the hypothalamus and the pituitary gland to naturally release growth hormone within the body and that can create anabolic effects.
23:39
Now I'm not talking anabolic like steroids, but as we understand anabolic just means growth.
It means enhancement, you know, it's adding to, whereas catabolic means it's taking away and it's destroying.
But yet we still focus on that.
The anabolic is a bad word.
23:56
It's it's not.
But people ask all the time, well, that's going to denature and disrupt your natural growth hormone production.
I'm like, OK, well, I don't know about you, but once you hit 30, everybody's disrupted with their growth hormone because it drops 10 to 15% every decade.
24:12
Because again, we have cellular exhaustion, we have hormone exhaustion, we have communication exhaustion.
So if we can add a natural pulsative effect to allow your body to naturally release that, again, that's really what peptides are doing.
It's optimizing that specific system and they're extremely safe.
24:28
That's, I think the other thing that a lot of people understand that peptides are so safe because they're going in, they're doing their work, and then they stop.
And the pleiotrophic effect, that down regulatory effect is coming from the reaction that they're creating.
It's like here, I'm going to tell you what to do now.
24:44
You're just going to keep doing it.
Like again, growth hormone or BPCBPC will stay in your system maybe for 30 minutes, but yet it's still having a, a healing and restorative effect for the rest of the day.
You know, growth hormone, it can stay in your system sometimes an hour, 2 hours.
25:02
There are some like CJC that may be 6 days.
That's why tirzepatide, like you're talking about GOP once, we can do a whole podcast on GOP once.
But the reason why you're doing it once a week is because it will stay in your system and have an effect for that long.
25:18
And so there are people that'll do some micro dosing on that.
Well, they'll cut what you're taking.
So let's say that whatever you're taking, that small tip that you're, you would actually cut that in half, but do it twice a week instead of once a week.
And sometimes that helps to kind of subdue the side effects, which could be, you know, sometimes it's Constipation because it slows down that gut motility.
25:39
And then sometimes there's nausea, there's the hydration that can happen.
So you want to make sure that you're obviously staying hydrated through that process.
But I think the part that they miss on that specifically is, like you said, the anti-inflammatory effects when you can start to balance out insulin and glucose, which are some other things.
25:56
I mean, and there's tremendous research now on a lot of these GLPS that show that it helps with cognitive performance, neuroregeneration.
Well, why is all this happening?
Why is it good for heart?
It's not just about losing weight.
It's about when it can help to balance and regulate glucose and insulin.
26:13
Well, now we have less of an inflammatory response in the body.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's it's amazing.
I love it.
It's so good.
It's so, yeah, very exciting time.
I mean, I think the safety profile, the lack of side effects, the lack of adverse reactions is just you know what do you know the name of the company that looks like one of the fastest growing companies?
26:35
I think they surpassed Apple and their value of this doing the big GLP ones.
I know the brand name 1 is We go V and then Eli Lilly has one.
Yeah, Eli Lilly has theirs.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, they're, they're opening manufacturing facilities, but they're trying to shut down a lot of the GOP ones through the five O 3A's and five O 3B's.
26:54
You know, they want to corner the market.
I get it.
People can't compound.
There's going to be shortages.
There's going to be other issues there.
But you know, it's interesting to me because what they do is they're creating something that's actually naturally occurring within the body as well.
They're, I mean, they, they do have to adjust and shift, but you know, when they see something good, they want it to themselves.
27:12
But there's other ways and other options too outside of the GOP ones for natural, you know, weight loss.
Like AOD is a peptide, actually stands for anti obesity drug and it's a peptide that works very, very well.
It's a fragment of a growth hormone that helps with and does help with muscle preservation.
27:30
And again, GOP ones don't cause muscle deterioration.
Just to make it clear, because that is a big issue that was pushed out.
But what I can tell you is that when people don't eat, because you said, hey, you took it like you didn't want to eat a thing, right?
27:46
So where do we store all of our energy?
Most of our energy, it's not in fat.
Most of the energy that we store is actually in muscle tissue.
So the glycogen stores and everything is in muscle tissue.
It's the last thing that burns off of your body actually is fat.
It's going to pull the glucose and everything, the energy stores out of the muscle tissue.
28:05
And so people were not eating.
So what happens?
Their muscle starts to deteriorate.
You look and and think about this somebody that has what they call like the the sumoglutide, like face or butt or whatever they want to say the one.
And then you look at a picture of somebody that's anorexic, you realize they look exactly the same.
28:25
It's because they were starving themselves.
And so there's it just to put a picture so that you have an understanding like we still have to eat.
The whole purpose of these GLP ones, truly, I believe is to help people make a lifestyle change, not to be the magic bullet for weight loss.
28:43
Like I'm on registrate.
It's a triple agonist that helps with metabolism and everything.
You're on a double, which is tirzepatide.
I don't need to lose weight.
I'm 8 1/2% body fat.
I weigh 182 lbs.
I lift.
I actually take it because it helps me build muscle.
28:59
When you utilize right and you increase your protein intake like you should, you are OK.
And then you can start to choose the better foods, the better options.
And as you lose weight, you can start walking again and exercising again.
Peptides are a piece of a puzzle.
It's not to be a magic bullet and to be the thing.
29:17
It's it's sometimes to help you get over that hump or to get to the next level of where you need to go.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I need to have my mom on a podcast.
My mom is, you know, it's, it's a lifelong journey for her with exercise and eating right.
And she does an amazing job, but I want to say since December, she's down like 32 lbs and she looks incredible.
29:37
I mean, she sent me pictures yesterday.
I was like, I, I forwarded them to my, I was like, I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
Like, and she looks how you know, she goes to the gym, she works out, she walks every single day, she eats clean.
You know, we got her PMF device.
She does a lot of great stuff.
29:54
And now it's like just ultimate synergy.
And I'm so excited.
My query or my question for like everybody in this field is that it's my understanding that the nutritional content of my food is half of what my grandparents from a mineral and a vitamin standpoint, you know, we could take a Peach from like 1950 to 2025.
30:16
It's different because of farming practices.
So I pause when people tell me we're going to slow down the food we're already eating without having a conversation about, well, well, let's look at we're going to do this intervention and let's look at the quality of what we're taking in as far as like our macros and then also our micronutrients.
30:36
Because I know, like we just said, you know, there's a great show on Netflix.
It's called Alone.
Have you watched Alone, by the way?
I've watched.
It dude, I'm so addicted right now, people are going to get tired of me talking about it.
But the implications for me, I'm like, man, we are putting people and the container that I talk about, I'm like, you need to be in alignment with nature.
30:58
Here's a contest.
When you're not in alignment with nature, you go home.
You cannot make it.
You rise with the sun, your body shivering off from the cold.
You're scared, your moments of fear from running from animals, you're foraging, you're living off the land.
31:13
I was like, I would love to run labs on these people.
I actually think I want to write a pitch for a show and I'll it's like something like the Wild Cure and it's a little more controlled, but it's all about just lab work.
And we're going to teach these people what happens when we go back to the land.
31:28
And, and I know it's not for everybody, but if there isn't a better concrete evidentiary proof of like here's what healing looks like, like that show, it's just it's amazing.
It is.
And you know, to get on to that man, like people, I'll say that the even the term myocardial infarction, OK, people think it's a funny word.
31:47
It's OK.
It just means heart attack, OK?
I mean, that that wasn't even a term.
If we're going down this road, we're going to go down this road.
I mean, until like 1940s, fifties, even into the 60s, which is crazy to think about because that wasn't that long ago.
32:07
I mean, I, I get it.
I'm 43, OK?
I was going to play the joke where I tell people I'm 60 and then they believe me for a second, but no, I am, you've heard me speak on stage.
I always throw that one out there and I do get the light.
Wait, huh.
But like even the build up of like children's hospitals.
32:24
I asked my own parents, Hey, do you guys remember children's hospitals when you were younger or even teenagers or young 20s?
They're like, no, we didn't have them.
It's like where we've gone in our healthcare, which we don't have healthcare, you know, we have sick care.
32:42
That's all it is.
It's it's taking care of sick people and then we're told by our physicians that it's, well, it's your genetics.
That's not true.
I mean, our genes are only 2 to 5%.
Everything else is what happens to us.
We have the power, we have the control.
It's what we're allowing to happen to ourselves.
32:59
We sit in rooms all day.
I mean, I've done talks on sitting is the new smoking because the the effects that it has on our system, you know, we're not in the sun, We're not putting our feet on the ground.
You know, we're not going from warm to cold.
We're not hunters and gatherers anymore.
33:15
You know, we have DoorDash.
It's like, yes, I am a DoorDash person.
So but but like we try to park the closest to the door at the grocery store as we can because we don't want to walk an extra 10 feet.
I mean, we have a broken system, but yet we complain constantly about our health and we don't want to do anything about it.
33:33
It's sad.
It's sad because then we wait until we have something like a heart attack or a stroke and it's like, I should probably do something now.
And even then, half the time you don't have the resources to be able to do it because you have no idea.
33:48
But that's where a lot of people that I, I get to be connected with, they've either have somebody that's been through that which has transitioned them to want to learn more, or it's themselves who have had that.
And they're like, I got to figure this out because this is the only temple that we have.
34:04
It's the only body we have.
If we don't take care of it, what else are we going to do?
So I went off on a rant there.
I'm sorry dude, but.
It's great.
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35:23
A lot of times that I'm learning something new, but be it the lymphatic or we're talking about a new technology like an oxygen chamber or red light device, I anchor it and you know, I, I like to get people inspired and you have these like things like, Oh my God, they do that.
And that what really jumps out for you as far as peptides, It could be studies that you've come across or you're blown away by the impact.
35:45
It could be just the nature of the modality and things you've seen.
Or you could hear even report back to me from other practices that you have peptides where they're using that in the practice and some things they've seen from the therapy.
Yeah, man.
So I mean, I've been in the peptide world industry utilizing them myself for it's probably 10 plus longer, 10 plus years.
36:06
You know, I've tried a lot of different things.
And then I think that's, you know, again, we learn as we go through it or I say we grow through it.
But I would say the most impactful thing there, there's been honestly two peptides that have stood out to me over the last like year and a half that I, I honestly didn't know about and kind of hit me in a sense of like a full system type of scenario.
36:27
Because I say that peptides are very specific.
Like, yes, BPC can reduce inflammation, but a lot of times I think of it for like joint health, you know, ligaments, tendons and, and that or D sip for sleep.
But one of the big ones for me is 1 called epithalium.
36:42
It's actually the the research behind it actually comes from Doctor Cavinson, who has since passed, but a Russian scientist.
He was really big on bio regulators and the research behind all these bio regulators.
Again, bio regulators that our body makes and are utilized by epithalin or epithalin.
37:00
Sometimes they take the H off.
It's the same thing, but how it works specifically on the pineal gland for really resetting the system.
When I say resetting the system, the body's system for DNA repair, helping with the telomeres, so it slows down.
37:16
We talked earlier about how our cells go through this process where it's called the apoptosis cell death.
You know, it's done, it's not working.
The mitochondrial, it's not functioning anymore.
Well, Epithalon actually will slow down that replication process.
So it slows how fast that cell is going to die off.
37:35
So it helps with that telomere and through that it's also healing that cell all the way down on a mitochondrial level.
And at first I was like, this is super cool DNA repair, you know, it helps with the telomeres it, but then I started researching more and I'm like, oh, it, it's helping people with their sleep cycles.
37:53
It hits three different enzyme receptors than the pineal gland.
And it didn't hit home until one of our affiliates that we were working with.
She wears A whoop watch and her name's Amanda.
She's incredible.
She's a health coach and Wellness coach.
I met her when I was training a large organization.
38:11
She had been exposed to toxic mole, black mole.
And so this is where the other peptide is going to come into play.
And I had just learned about a peptide called VIP vasoactive intestinal peptide, again from the gastric lining.
And my wife had started on it and was getting incredible results from mold issues.
38:32
Again, her chronic Lyme.
But the research is where this really gets super cool because she's wearing this watch, She's been tracking her sleep cycles, you know, her health, her Wellness for years.
And I said, OK, what we want to do is because of the mold, we want to do this reset.
38:49
We're going to do VIP because VIP is known very in the the mold and serves community as a peptide that helps specifically with decreasing inflammation, helps with mold toxicity.
To me, viral helps with lung health, things like COPD.
So this is what the research supports for VIPA lot of good stuff comes from your gut.
39:08
People make sure that you're putting good things in there.
So went through and we did this cycle of epithelium 10 milligrams 10 days.
This is cavisence protocol 10 milligrams 10 days straight.
You only do it like twice a year.
And so she's starting this 10 day cycle and she calls me like on the third day.
39:29
She's like, you're not going to believe this.
And I always love it when people start with that.
I'm like, Oh no, I was like, wait a second.
She was my sleep.
She was, I wasn't expecting this, but I've been watching my whoop watch and like I was maybe at like I think she said that her regular deep sleep was hitting like maybe 50% on her whoop watch three days after starting with epithelin.
39:54
She was like upper 60s getting into the 70s and I'm just like, holy cow.
OK.
And it just continued.
And she is now did her 10 day cycle.
Her sleep is still there.
And this has been four or five months where her rest is still sitting there.
40:11
Now she's then she goes, Epithelm's the best thing in the world.
I'm telling everybody about it and she does.
And what I've seen consistently is people are getting the same results like.
People are now they're waking up earlier and they're getting upset because they like to sleep in.
40:27
They're like, but my sleep is getting better.
I'm just up and I'm going.
And again, these are one things that I'm in and the VIP.
Then it got her back.
She's professional cheerleader.
She does health and Wellness coaching.
She was out of miles.
I couldn't function, I couldn't work out, I couldn't lose weight.
40:43
Irregular cycles.
This combination of these cycles became regular again and she didn't change.
I mean, she is eating well, she's exercising.
So I mean, to me, that goes to show that sometimes just a little bit of something can have a dramatic response and a result for somebody.
41:03
And I also have to say everybody is also different.
We can't have the same expectation for every single person.
But I can tell you that we've been seeing it time after time after time, even with these two.
And it just kind of goes to show that when we're allowed to give the body something that it needs, even in a bad environment, the body is so resilient and so ready to heal and so ready to get to that next phase.
41:29
Sometimes it's just the smallest thing.
And from there, you start to actually live in a point where you're not being reactive to your health.
You know, you're you have proactive sides like, Oh, I can now start to do the things that I love.
41:44
And that's what I've loved about this.
And those are just two.
I have many more stories on others, but I'm a big researcher.
I love to dive into research.
I love to see what these peptides can actually do for the body and what they can support.
And then I get to see it from the experiences of individuals and, and I think that's the beautiful thing about it is people are are again living the life that they deserve.
42:10
Yeah, Adam, Well, you said sirs, I just want to say for the audience, most people will know chronic inflammatory response syndrome.
Yeah, often associated with Lyme, biotoxin illness, black mold, mystery disease.
And you know, this is, I've been having this conversation since 2009 when I was, I was told some of these things and we did talk about VIP back then.
42:30
It was a long time ago.
When you say it's funny, I say epitolone.
That's a.
To me, there's like potato, potato, epitolone, epithalon.
Epithalon.
You're good.
Yes.
Yeah.
When we would talk about epithalin, did you say she was doing 10 milligrams, 10 days straight?
42:50
Yes.
Now that's high for a peptide, right?
Isn't it usually?
Aren't they usually in micrograms?
Yeah, that's actually high.
And then that's, so there are a few where you're doing higher doses.
I mean you think of the GLP ones, well, semaglutide or S1, I mean that's typically starting to like .25 milligrams.
43:08
Tirzepatide people typically are starting to like 2 milligrams, 2.5 milligrams.
So again, it depends on how long it stays in the system and the response, but that's one of the the ones that's probably going to be on that really the highest dose.
Mott C is another one that you'll sometimes dose at like 5 milligrams up to 10 milligrams.
43:28
So there's a few that you can go higher.
You know, if you want to talk safety profiles, I tell people like BPC 157.
I mean, I think the I can't remember what the LD 50 is, which is the lethal dose.
So we talk about lethal doses of drugs.
That's where those terms come in.
43:45
Yeah.
I mean, don't quote me.
I know this is recorded, but still don't quote me.
It's something like I think you could do 10 to 20 grams per pound of body weight and you're still an overdose on BPC 157.
Do not, do not and even have to remove this from this just so that nobody does that.
44:05
It'd be impossible to do that.
Quite honestly, I don't know where you'd get that much.
You'd have to go buy a kilo of BPCS somewhere.
Even then that's not going to match.
But the safety profile again, is, is, is so good on a lot of these.
I mean, some people get responses like a niacin flush sometimes when they'll take them, especially with some of the growth hormone secreted gogs, VIP, Sometimes you'll get like that niacin flush from that as well.
44:31
It's just opening up kind of that vascular system and allowing the body to do what it needs to do.
But I think they said that half life of VIP is like 5 seconds.
I think they said once it's in the system, it's just going kind of like ozone.
I mean, we talked about ozone.
The moment it hits the system, it's binding, you know, it's gone.
44:50
It's doing what it's done and what it needs to do, creating that hormatic response and allowing the body to begin to to restore.
Yeah, yeah, I definitely think there's going to be a greater ability of the public to accept peptides than ozone because we have that stick, that stick with it.
45:06
It's wait, you want me to do what with the gas?
Wait, don't we need the ozone layer in the Earth?
When you say VIP, is that taken through a nasal spray it?
Can be.
So there's different modes of applications with different peptides.
So VIP vasoactive intestinal peptide is what it stands for.
45:23
It's AVIP in my book, but well, dad joke for him.
No, it's great.
Let the dad jokes.
Roll, let them fly, right.
So yeah, you can do those.
I've only done for my wife and for people that I've worked with.
The injectable.
I honestly think, you know, there's the theory of like getting it up through the cribiform plate, you know, it's going to access the brain faster or even just getting into the nasal cavities because a lot of times with servers, I mean, you can have mark ONS which is going to be, that's right, you know, the issues within the sinus cavities.
45:56
But you know, then I also sit here and I think, well, if you have that much mold and issues within your sinus cavity, how well is it actually going to absorb as well?
I'd rather do intranasal ozone help to get rid of a lot of that junk.
And then you could do some nasal application, but there's peptides that are oral.
46:13
There are some good oral applications and peptides.
I I think BPC is great because it goes through the gut.
Now you have to make sure that you have a great enterocoated capsule.
Again, not all peptides are the same.
So make sure that you have that there's subcutaneous, so that's just going into that fat tissue layer, you know, right under the skin.
46:32
So squeezing around the belly.
And, and I'll stop here for one second.
When we talk about peptides, most people don't realize.
So insulin was the very first peptide that was actually developed.
So that and then oxytocin.
So there's a couple of peptides that people might recognize more than, you know, SLU, DASH, PP or whatever other name we want to throw out there.
46:53
So you have the sub Q injection and there's different sites.
I mean, people do sub Q injections.
I'm opposed to the tricep about two inches out from the belly button.
My favorite spot is actually the upper thigh.
So I'll squeeze the the tissue right above the on my upper thigh and I'll just inject right into there.
47:09
So again, I do tell people which spots it's not fun to prick yourself.
But they are little insulin syringes.
They're super small.
In fact, my kids have dealt with mold issues.
And so we've utilized, you know, VIP and even thymosin alpha for them.
47:25
So my kids can actually they take the injection.
So if you're scared of needles, it's OK.
My 8 year old does it and he's fine.
So you will be too, I promise you.
Yeah.
And then there's intranasal, which you know some of the nootropics and also VIP, you can do intranasal.
47:43
I still think the best mode of application to get the most efficacy from a peptide is going to be your subcu injection.
Yeah, yeah, that's been my experience.
I've got the most from the subcu and that would, my one example is, is the trizipatide.
Is there anything else that falls under this bucket?
48:01
I love this because there's so many people on here with we'll say the mystery illness that are listening to the podcast always looking for better support.
So we've mentioned VIP, we mentioned hypothalone and what else you said Thymosin A1, could we have a a bigger conversation around that about immune system modulation?
48:20
Yeah.
So thymosin A1 is, it's a peptide, that therapeutic peptide that naturally is derived from the thymus gland.
So again, as we age, you know, our immune system's going to diminish.
I think a lot of the great things, there's thymosin beta 4 as well.
There's, there's a few different ones, but Thymosin A1 is specific.
48:38
I call it's like the king or queen.
I don't really care.
They're both up there of anti-inflammatory.
So it modulates.
We have to understand too that, you know, I'm sure you've talked about this a lot.
Our inflammation responses and our immune responses are tied together.
You know, if our body is not, you know, having a balanced inflammatory response, our immune system is going to be in disarray.
48:59
In fact, these cells that will die off, these apoptotic cells, there's the thing that's called zombie cells.
Have you ever talked about zombie cells on your podcast?
Very little.
But I mean, we've mentioned senescence and senescence cells, cells that kind of wander around not doing their job and they are a biological burden to the energetic system of the body.
49:19
Exactly.
And, and so one of the terms that we've given them and, and you can read literature on it is zombie cells.
They don't think that their job is done, but basically these senescence cells, their burden is that they, they're basically like little cells on fire.
They're creating inflammatory responses.
49:34
They're they're disruptors.
And so you know, what things like thymosin A1 can do is it can actually help to in a sense gobble those up, start to get rid of it because thymosin A1 really helps to activate T cell activation.
So that's a big one.
49:50
They have antiviral effects.
Research has supported cancer therapies specifically with thymosin A1, but it really does suppress that inflammatory response so that the immune system can go up.
It activates naturally in your body in case cell therapy.
50:06
And I say therapy in the fact that your body is therapeutically releasing more natural killer cells, which those then can actually create both that adaptive immune system and that immediate immune system response as well.
So if you can increase that in case therapy in the sense your cells, then you're going to have a longer lasting effect.
50:27
And I think that's a lot of where like the most enough one comes into play long term is that when you can naturally increase in KT cells to regulatory, I mean that's a down regulatory effect that you're not creating.
So it's not just for today, it's something that's going to help tomorrow and the next day.
50:44
So it's it's a powerful peptide.
Yeah, Adam, as I'm listening to you say this, you know, I can imagine there are people out there that are a little more cavalier, you know, they're willing to go to a website and, and say I, I, I've, I've read the research, I understand this, I understand this.
What about a person?
51:00
And honestly, the older I get, the more I don't want to do it on my own, the more I want, I want a person to be able to either listen to what my experience is and say, oh, this could be good.
Or I want a person to sit down with me and I want to look at some quality labs and I want to really make an educated decision on how to best spend my dollar.
51:24
I also am very passionate and very frugal.
You wouldn't know it by looking at the toys in my house, but for a majority of my life I have this program starving actor mindset and I'm very frugal and with longer time spent in this holistic Wellness longevity space.
51:43
Yeah.
I think you can't throw money at a problem just like you know you it really you need education behind it.
So where does that person go?
Who's the person to talk to to make an educated decision around peptides?
Yeah.
So we have, I mean, we have a Consulting Group.
52:00
It's actually it's the next level because we're helping people get to the next level.
We have coaches and consultants that are on that, that you can set up.
It's basically it's a free discovery goal to sit down to see what is happening.
I don't like using the word free because then there's the associate that everything's free.
52:16
I use, you know, but that's OK.
I, I don't mind free, especially when it comes to your health, because I think that I don't mind giving something and having people have something for free if it's going to actually better the results and the outcome because it's just education.
I mean, that's what people need.
52:32
They need to have an understanding.
And there's too many people that are charging.
Like what's hard for me is like you go to a doctor and they're like your consult's $600.
We don't even know what I'm I have going on.
Like it's like $600 to just even figure out if you can even help me or not.
52:48
And that's a probably a low end for some of these specialty physicians that are out there.
But the next level we've created to be able to sit down, go through and help people to understand, you know, maybe peptides are a solution.
Maybe they're there to help.
53:03
Maybe you don't need them.
It did really is just figuring out what it is that's going on.
And then we can even direct you to where you may need to go.
You know, and if you're talking with your physician about moving into peptides, I would just ask them a few questions.
Do you even offer them?
53:19
Do you understand what they are and what they do?
I will tell you, most physicians don't even understand that GLP ones are peptides.
They don't know that that's a crazy thing.
So that website, it's actually done next level.
So it's THENE XL V l.com, but we also have a a private Facebook group that we created next level private Facebook group.
53:42
It's called peptides and beyond.
Next level peptides and beyond it's we bring you in.
It's a private Facebook group where we're just talking about the different things and we're hosting live events.
We're just bringing the information for people to know what's out there.
53:58
I mean, we have a lot of people that are interested in the weight loss.
We have people that are interested in, you know, body composition.
There are peptides for sexual vigor and vitality and that sometimes people don't even realize they're out there, you know, and that's a big thing in this world today that, you know, for both men and women.
54:15
And I think that it needs to be known that there's help.
So, yeah, so there's a a few different options there for people to be able to to get some answers and solutions.
And if you're talking to your doctor and, and you want to even ask them, just ask them if they know what a peptide is.
54:31
If they say no, then that's probably not going to be the person that you want to be talking to because I do get this a lot.
Well, let me go talk to my doctor about these peptides.
Like, great, go talk to your doctor.
But before you talk to them about what may be recommended or what you're looking at doing, first ask them if they even know what a peptide is.
54:49
Yeah.
Because the first answer is no, you're not going to get very far.
Yeah, well, I love that as a resource.
The next level sounds great because again, for me, you know, and I, I know at the times when I was struggling with mold and lime, my mental clarity was not good.
55:04
I needed it laid out.
And I mean laid out.
You know, Adam, I needed Freddie, I understand what you're feeling.
You're going to look at solution AB and C.
This is what happens on Monday and Wednesday.
You're going to come back to me in 90 days and we're going to talk about what you're like.
I need it laid out like the yellow, like Candyland yellow Brick Road.
55:22
You know, there can't because again, it's not my expertise.
And when you're in a state of suffering or struggling at that moment, you need a guide.
Yeah, and it and it's hard.
I mean, I with my wife, I mean, and you understand this too, that you're told so many things are the answer.
55:40
That's I think one of the hardest things.
It's like, oh, this is the answer.
Yeah.
I mean, we it's like, oh, we should do the bee sting thing.
Oh, OK.
Or this is what cured my line.
And people are very, very kind and generous to share what what worked for them.
55:57
And don't worry, it's going to work for you as well.
But again, it's a journey.
I don't think peptides are the right answer for everybody.
And just like I don't think hyperbaric's the right answer for everybody, ozone's the right answer.
I think that sometimes it's little pieces of all of them, but it's having somebody listening to see what direction we may be able to take somebody and to guide you on your journey because it is your journey.
56:18
We just are fortunate enough to be a part of it.
Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, for me, I will say, I mean things that I've done in the last year of getting off caffeine, you know, finding a coffee that is has parazanthine, not the caffeine.
I get the same brain benefit.
56:35
My brain works way better and I do not have a lull.
I don't have a lull.
And it's great coffee.
It's just not sponsored by them.
It's called, it's called rare bird.
I mean, it's incredible PX coffee.
You know, Sean Wells came out with an energy drink called Oh God, he's going to kill me, but it's a parazanthine, man.
56:55
He's going to kill me.
Hold on.
I got to look it up.
I literally cannot get off this podcast.
I.
Want to?
Know Sean Wells energy drink update.
I didn't even need to go there.
It's called drink update and that is they're now carrying in my grocery store in Austin.
57:11
You know, I went and I was, you know, we have a schedule.
We have a thing.
You got an interview, you got an output, you got to work out.
You got a dinner date later and I was like, I'm dragging, I'm going to go get a coffee and I went in.
They had drink update in the grocery store in the HEBI was like, this is incredible.
57:28
This is incredible.
And it's just little things like that for me.
I found things that don't pull from the energy credit card to go through the next two hours of my day.
I was like, I know there's an allure because we we started out talking about energy, right?
57:44
We all want energy with there's an allure, but I always found I would pay it back and it would be the next day that the sleep recovery just wasn't there.
I was like, oh, that's where that showed up.
I I literally borrowed from the energy credit card.
I'm glad you're sharing this with me because I I need these things.
58:02
I really am like I've got 4 kids and running all over the place.
The business.
I'm like that's perfect.
I love learning new things.
So always, man, always.
And that's why we, I always say that this is, it's a jumping off point.
58:18
This is a conversation starter.
That's what a podcast is.
Nothing in this podcast is medical information.
It's not intended to cure, treat, mitigate disease.
This is literally conversation starter one O 1.
And we've mentioned a couple avenues where people can find a professional.
58:34
What if you want your doctor to be the guy?
What if you love your doctor?
He doesn't know peptides.
Where do you send your doctor to get the education?
So my phone number, no, I'm not going to show my phone number on here correctly.
Don't do that.
No, I'm not going to do that.
No, I actually do have a, there's a, we have a training entity for physicians to help to educate them.
58:56
We have met databank.
It's actually it's a shift off of our, our next level.
We have next level consulting one-on-one.
And then we have our, our physician and our training.
And I also work with a great, great group and you know, Christy as well.
So, you know, we host trainings all over the country.
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I've, I've written programs internationally and, and spoken internationally on peptides and regenerative medicine.
But yeah, our, our specifically is on peptides.
So from Med databanks, research based on everything, which I love and quick guides on for physicians to say, hey, this, you know, here, here's the peptide.
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This is what the research shows, the benefit, this is how you actually reconstitute it.
These are the things that you need.
And so we've spent a lot of time building this out because again, to me, this is, this is a, a big part of the future of, of where I truly believe medicine can go with, with the safety profile, with the efficacy of what these, these peptides can do.
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It's going to be a battle, it's going to be a journey.
But you know, if people are hearing more and more about peptides, it's because they work.
You know, there's the, there's something out there that's working.
And I will I I do want to say this and I'm jumping off on this, but.
Collagen peptides in a powder are different than the peptides that we're actually talking about.
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These are not like the the small collagen peptides that can and they do help with skin.
I mean copper peptide is great for.
Skin depends on what type.
There's so many different types.
There's like 1234.
Exactly.
And so I don't want that to be mistaken because I also don't want you to like take that powder and mix it in some water and try to inject that into your belly or something.
1:00:32
Don't do that because I've heard stories don't do that.
Those peptides are still very, very good for you and you want to utilize those.
But these are different very direct when we talk about things like the most enough of 1, they're they're single entity peptides.
So yeah, next level is, is one of the places that we have people that come to us physicians specifically for training education.
1:00:53
And so we have memberships that help get them within and we start teaching and training so that they have the background needed to be able to offer this to to their clients and and move forward.
Great.
I have a a couple follow up questions.
I know we're at an hour and I know we're going to do this again before you leave.
1:01:14
I'm a pretty big believer of test.
Don't guess you know, we have so much great data now.
I actually got a, a theory on test from mica down on the kitchen counter.
I've got self decode.
I've been really impressed with the new printouts on the theriome.
1:01:31
You know, really understanding it's like, well, you're inflamed, but it looks like quercetin actually helps suppress this viral inflammatory response as opposed to turmeric for your genome, right?
So we have so much data, we have so much information out there.
1:01:48
Are there any tests that you love that are really popping out to you?
Maybe you know, it's environmental toxicity again.
Maybe it's something like some of these next level genomic sequencing that are a priority for you?
You know, I actually love theorems testing.
1:02:04
I think that they're cutting edge quite honestly.
And it's, it's very specific to the individual.
I will say one of the things with peptide therapeutics is it's, there's no specific tests for the peptides.
And so when we do get tests or we're utilizing testing a lot of it, we're we're looking at hormone regulation.
1:02:26
So testosterone, estrogen, you know, those are all essential tests that we like to see because I think those are also foundational tests.
I mean, we're going to look at liver function, we're going to look at thyroid.
But ultimately what we see on, on the gene side is when people are using things like epithelin or, you know, some of these DNA repairs, we do start to notice some of that the biological age begins to diminish.
1:02:52
You know, we know our chronological age is going to continue to go up, but it's, again, it's about optimizing the system.
So anything that I see, I, I don't test specifically on anything besides the hormones right now, because that's the main thing that we're looking for is if we can optimize the hormones, create a balance there, how are we going to then take it to the next level with the peptide?
1:03:16
So a peptide is not going to go in and change like T4 or it's not even necessarily going to go change your your testosterone levels because they are very site specific for a specific organ for a specific response like sleeping.
So the tests that I typically like to see are things like, you know, from my, I feel it's like her whoop watch.
1:03:36
What is she seeing changes in her sleep cycles?
What is she seeing, You know, with energy, which again, we can see those through other tests, but unfortunately, I wish I had a specific one, but we don't.
We actually have talked with theorem about, hey, what if you were to take these peptides and we put this into your system and we do some testing and we can then pinpoint, because that's how specific they can be, that we could say, well, this peptide would be best with this dosage for the sleep or for the spleen or the liver or whatever it is.
1:04:09
So we've actually talked with them a little bit about that.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
It's I looked at the report yesterday.
I was like, OK, things are about to change.
You know, I've been talking a lot about this idea of wise spending with your investments on health.
1:04:28
Again, it's really easy to watch popular medical Doctor Who has a huge platform tell you, you know, you need this and this and this.
But again, we have to have this base camp built out of this biological blueprint, these non negotiable lifestyle practices.
1:04:45
If you're kind of looking at the field now, is there anything that you see people coming in the door, they're like Freddie, I'm really struggling with this or Doctor Adam, this is really like, it's like a nail in my foot right now.
That could be chronic sleep.
That could be chronic stress, that could be chronic pain.
1:05:02
What's been your experience?
I think every single thing that you just mentioned, because I mean, that is kind of the world that we live in, it's people need more energy.
They're not sleeping enough.
And I'll tell you the number of people that just suffer from chronic pain, it's ridiculous.
1:05:18
But I think pain is a result of the other things not being in place, meaning if we're not getting the sleep that we need, you know, if we're not moving, I mean, motion is life.
So when you don't move, pain is going to actually come up as well.
1:05:34
But yeah, energy, sleep, and again, I, I would say inflammation, but nobody comes in and I got all this inflammation.
It's like, hey, can you figure this out for me?
No, I did.
It's a symptom base.
But sleep and energy and pain are kind of the the big ones.
1:05:52
I would say more often now we are getting the mental.
A lot of people are coming in and now that I'm thinking about it is like they're looking for mental clarity.
I think it's because we also live in such a busy world.
People are going all over the place.
So I think that's a, that's a big one.
1:06:09
People also do kind of live in a fear a little bit of things like Alzheimer's and dementia, which I think we've built that system to create.
And again, underlining issues, inflammation, you know, sugar imbalances.
So we do utilize this peptide called Dyhexta, which is incredible and the research supports it specifically for Alzheimer's and dementia.
1:06:30
It's our first capsule that we actually have, and it is, it's amazing.
It reconnects synapses of the brain, helps with firing, cognition, recognition.
I call it the limitless peptide, but it's a phenomenal peptide and easy to digest.
Unintended because it's a capsule.
1:06:48
Yeah, I mean, that's the limitless pill is sign me up.
Sign me up.
Well, I'm excited to send some people your way.
As always, I celebrate you doing what you're doing.
If people want to go just get the, you know, next level, we're going to list Facebook group.
1:07:06
What's the name of your your peptide company, which I don't even think we mentioned?
Yeah, it's a legacy bioscience.
So legacy bioscience.com is the name of our company credible products.
I say that too, obviously as we we've we've been utilizing them.
People have been utilizing them for a very long time.
1:07:22
But yeah, that's how you can look at our our products specifically.
Great.
I'm definitely going to create a resource guide for this just so people understand where to go for the console, where to get clarity, where to get the peptides.
As always, we have a discount for the listeners on this show and peptides are an investment, but we're going to give a discount.
1:07:41
You can use code beautifully broken in the cart.
And I looked at the site, I thought your prices were really very fair for what I've paid.
I've, it's been a little ridiculous in the past for some of the investments I've, I've dumped six, 800 bucks and again, had no benefit whatsoever because I think I did it wrong.
1:08:00
Or we could say the sourcing was really, really poor.
Is there anything you want to say to people about the investment of peptides or the financial side?
You know, I mean, we briefly touched on, on the financial people, whether, you know, on the pricing, to me it's always you're really going to get in a sense what you pay for.
1:08:18
If it is cheap, you're probably going to get something cheap.
If it is a little bit more expensive, there's probably been more testing and more things that have gone into it, which is typically what's accounting for that cost difference as well.
Because there's a lot of testing that we do to make sure that we have a pure product.
But anything that you buy, like you said, I mean it's an investment, you know, we invest in what we value.
1:08:39
So, you know, you don't have to spend crazy amounts of money to get great results even with peptides.
It's just utilizing them the way that you should and then the results come.
So we've got support for that as well.
Yeah, I mean, I'm, I lean in towards like, man, what's the ROI if I were to sleep, if I were to get 4 hours of deep sleep every night, you know, in my 8 to 9 hour cycle, Like what is that value?
1:09:04
Can you price it?
You know what's the value of showing up to your granddaughter's wedding and you actually walk her down the aisle as opposed to sitting in the back in a wheelchair 'cause there was no room for you?
Like you tell me the monetary value.
I can't find one.
1:09:21
I just find it funny what we pay for homes.
And you know what we see what we think we need on HDTV and the car that's parked in the driveway that we don't use for 98% of its life.
I'm a firm believer let's sit down with a workbook.
Let's re prioritize.
1:09:37
Let's just do one day, let me go through the supplements that you're taking now I'm going to tell you most of them are non essential, that they're elected, that you and you actually don't have your bases covered.
Minerals, micronutrients, aminos, they're not present.
Let's just go simple.
Let's see what you feel like a 90 days there.
1:09:53
What are you paying for health insurance because it's not health, it's disease management.
So let's reprioritize that.
There's ways to really quickly show somebody where you can say $30,000.
I've done this for a bunch of people online before.
I'm like, let's sit down, let's do an audit.
You know, you tell me you don't feel good.
1:10:09
Let's talk about just what about your gym membership that you don't use?
Let's have a conversation.
Or the drop in yoga class is $25.
You know, we can say I'm like, there's so many systems we can just re prioritize.
If you're willing to show up and do the work, I promise you the money's there.
1:10:26
That's what I usually tell people just like, sit down and do a good audit of what you're spending.
Are you getting the results that you want?
If not, let's make a change.
Absolutely, yeah.
I mean, it, it's price versus cost.
I mean, price is the one time thing.
It's it's what you're paying right now.
1:10:42
The cost is what you get out of whatever it is that you're wanting to invest in.
You know, I, I don't know if it's Jim Rohn or who is speaking on this, this Proctor, but he talked about buying a bike for his son and he didn't want to buy the expensive bike so he bought the cheaper bike and you know the, the price for the bike originally instead of $200, it was like 85.
1:11:02
But then wound up happening is that bike's brakes went out like two weeks after he got it.
The chain kept falling off.
So we had to replace the chain and then you know, the tire went out so we have to replace the tire and he goes within like 6 months.
He's like, I'd already spent $300.00 on this bike that was supposed to save me money because I wanted to only pay that price of $85, you know, So I went back, bought the $200 bike and it lasted for four years and didn't break down once.
1:11:31
So times we, we associate just this initial cost that, that price right off the bat.
But like you said, it's what are you going to get from that down the road?
And to me, I mean, peptides are a great investment to optimize your health and to help get you to where you need to go.
1:11:46
But again, they're not the only solution to what you need.
I truly believe that 1000% and I think there's other things that need to be implemented and utilized.
Nothing will be sunshine, nothing will be walking, nothing's going to be getting your feet on the ground.
Those are things that you just you can't replace with anything.
1:12:05
So that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we need to have both conversations at once.
Adam, it was such a pleasure having you on.
We'll do it again.
We'll link everything in the resources.
It's the Beautifully Broken podcast.
This is your first time on the show.
I can't believe that, by the way.
I can't believe this is your first time on the show.
1:12:22
You know, we talk about these times when we fall to the ground and that process of picking yourself back up is this catalyst for change.
What does it mean to you to be beautifully broken?
Oh man, don't make me cry dude, it's a.
1:12:38
Give us the heart, give it, give it to us.
Yeah, it's a, you know, I, I do this for, I mean beyond myself.
It's I think that most of the time I feel like I'm, I'm broken.
But if I don't feel like I'm broken from the aspect of from spiritual to physical to, to even my, my family life, then there's in a sense to me, and this is maybe weird to say, but there's nothing to I wouldn't have anything to fill, you know, like those broken pieces, like something needs to be filled in there.
1:13:06
And if everything is going great, then typically there's something that's off.
I feel like we've been called to be broken down, to be built up stronger.
And I think that's a beautiful thing that we often completely miss.
And we want rainbows and butterflies, and I don't think that's life.
1:13:25
So keep growing stronger.
So that's.
Yeah.
That's my heart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love it.
I love it.
I I would join with you in that and completely agree.
I think that's, that's the design of this human experience.
That's the design of this universe.
So until next time, we'll keep breaking beautiful Adam.
1:13:43
I'll talk to you soon, big love.
See you.
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