Sex Work, Lyme, and Healing your Trauma with Angelina Lombardo

Angelina Lombardo is a bestselling author, relationship and trauma expert, and the “entrepreneur whisperer.” A former exotic dancer, Angelina now devotes her time and career to coaching the underserved and stigmatized sex industry community on everything from self-love and empowerment to finances and self-care practices. Having spent the last 28 years of her life in entrepreneur-ship, she empowers heart-centered leaders to uncover their purpose and live a fully unleashed life. As a professional life coach, Lombardo has not only walked this path but has helped others make a change in their lives, bringing the feelings of freedom and fulfillment that once felt elusive. Her mentors include Angela Lauria, Jennifer Kem, Susan Hyatt, and Martha Beck.  

Angelina has had an incredible journey to the show and has a message that will blow you away. We are honored to have your join the Beautifully Broken family. In this wide-ranging and eye-opening conversation, Angelina and Freddie discuss the many ways unrealized trauma manifests, how she supports the spiritual entrepreneur, why isolation is essential to our healing journeys, all while connecting back to your unique and powerful story. And listen to the end to learn how you can get your own copy of Angelina’s books!

Episode Highlights

2:28 - Advocating for an overlooked and forgotten community

4:24 - The many ways unrealized trauma manifests

8:42 - The necessity to find freedom and space to process trauma

13:49 - Empowerment takes many forms

16:14 - Living with no regrets

19:05 - Supporting the spiritual entrepreneur

22:40 - Removing the spiritual blocks to success

26:14 - How Angelina helps provide massive energetic shifts with her clients

28:55 - Plant medicine can help, but the true work comes before and after

34:33 - Bringing back powerful experiences into the everyday

36:44 - Why isolation will be part of your healing journey

37:52 - Owning your healing journey

44:09 - The emotional work necessary for getting well

46:34 - The systems approach to getting well

51:30 - Who is a sex worker to tell me how to be healthier?

55:36 - Engaging with trolls

1:00:36 - What does it mean to be beautifully broken?

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (00:00.174)
I have zero regrets. I'm okay that I took off my clothes for a living and the little mishaps that took me too far down the rabbit hole in that sex industry and the few times that I got hurt. And I understand the responsibility I have and hold with hurting myself in that way, but I also understand and forgive myself because in grace, I did the best that I could at that moment.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (00:28.387)
Welcome to the Beautifully Broken Podcast brought to you by AmpCoil. I'm your host, Freddie Kimmel, and on this show, we discuss the common thread survivors share after walking through the fire, the practitioners making a difference, and the treatment modalities that deliver healing back into the hands of the people who need it most. Witness the inspiration we gain by navigating the human experience with grace, humility, and a healthy dose of mistakes. Because part of being human is being beautifully broken.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (01:00.815)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the beautifully broken podcast. I'm here with Angelina Lombardo. She is an amazing coach. She's an author. She has had an incredible journey to be here on the show today and she's got a message that is going to blow everybody away. Angelina, welcome to the podcast. Thank you for having me, Freddie. I really appreciate it. Well, trust me, it's my honor.

I, as we were saying, we do a little pre-talk. I don't always jump on the episode and just start gabbing away these truth bombs about health and wellness. But you know, the truth is when you get into the podcast world enough, you start getting these booking agents and people reaching out to you. Can I be on your show? And for me, when people inorganically find me through the interweb, it's usually kind of like a hard no. It doesn't feel wonderful.

But I saw Angelina's stuff and I was like, my God, it's a 10 out of 10. It was like a thumbs up. So thanks for putting out that vibe. I'm happy that you picked it up. That's pretty cool. I'm similar. I have to read and feel out a person just for a few, a few moments. And then I pick up, I think I pick up an energetic resonance or not. Cause I feel so in tune with what's going on inside of me. So.

I feel similarly for you. Well, Andalina, can we talk about what drove you to start writing books? Because you've got a couple of books on Amazon and they look like they're very compelling and you've got some great titles there, but I don't want to, I want you to be the one to treat the audience with the titles of your great works of literature. So what prompted me to start writing books was a deep desire to live by example.

in love for the planet. I mean, that's the big overall. It was my way of contributing my love, the love that I feel for humanity. And that was my expression of that. That's my start of expressing that deep love for humanity. So that's why I started.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (03:18.319)
which is why my first book is called Love Letters to a stripper. I am a ex-sex worker or a retired sex worker. I was in the sex industry for eight years. And when it came time for me to speak my message, which is pretty giant, my message, at least for me, the first pool of people would be the people in the sex industry. I felt like they needed that the most.

They really needed to know that they were being seen, that they were being loved, that I understood because I am one of them, that they are of extreme value, that their adversity and their hard knocks were not the sum of who they were, that they were born for resilience. So I just really wanted to be that example and extend my, you know, my arms to

embrace and work, advocate for that community. So that was the starting. So you wanted to advocate for that community. How did you find your way into that community to begin with? That is, yeah, that's so that's where the story starts. My childhood was full of physical, sexual

psychological, emotional abuse and coincidentally, of course, I grew up with developmental trauma. Developmental trauma is sort of a newer way of understanding trauma that is coming from a place where you were consistently exposed to traumatic shock.

verbal emotional psychological and the way that you develop as a result of that really results in In my case, it was dysregulation emotional dysregulation Disassociation it wasn't safe to be in the world. And so one of the coping Mechanisms that happen with developmental trauma is a disassociation and it it shows up as a disorganization it

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (05:40.815)
making decisions without judgment or without a sense of self or knowing how you're making that decision. So I call it trauma reaction. And I was struggling with chronic homelessness at the time. And I had really done all that I thought I could to gain employment. was, I think my first time being a homeless teenager on the streets was at age 14.

And this was at age 22. And I found myself in the same chronic homeless position, no money, no food. The resources were really thin. I was in a shelter and I answered an ad in a newspaper. And I really thought that I was answering an ad for a dancing telegrams. And, and it turns out it wasn't dancing telegrams. It was a pimp.

And he was searching for people who could go to people's houses and perform. So dancing nude, and he used to tell us it's up to you. Whatever happens behind closed doors is your business. I can't condone. But he would say things that would elude to, but you get paid way more if you do.

Something anything that they want right? So this was a trauma reaction. I just remember the first time Servicing a client I was dancing so there was nothing I was terrified and I just remember going into the space where this person was waiting it was 30 minutes I danced around I really just tried to mitigate my my anxiety and My hyper vigilance of am I safe? Am I not am I safe? Am I?

Am I not right? and being really almost close to being frozen. But then I walked out of that place with $500 and back in 1990, what was that too? That was a lot of money for someone who was homeless and struggling for most of my life. I had no, I just didn't have the concept. And so from there, I just thought this is what I have to do.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (08:03.751)
This is all there is. This is what I am good at. It progressed from there. I would say embody, but that wouldn't be the word I would use then because I wasn't embodying my healing of sexual trauma by being naked in front of thousands of men and women. But it did facilitate that.

There was an awareness. I definitely there was an awareness. So that's how I found myself stepping into the sex industry. And how long, how long did you stay in that industry until, um, obviously you said like $500 for a gig. mean, that's, that's pretty incredible. That's still a lot of money. How long did you stay in that industry until you felt a pull to get out?

I was in the industry for three years solid. It allowed me to travel. What it really did was it gave me the freedom to be traumatized, which is really weird. I was able to eat. I had a place to live and I could take a deep breath and just be with my emotions and my moods. Consequently, I was extremely depressed, existentially depressed.

And it just gave me room to breathe and think. And I wasn't at the mercy of someone else, which is ironic. But I thought it gave me a sense of control. So I was there for three years. I met my daughter's father in a club. We are from Maui, Hawaii. It's an island. And I would go over to Oahu.

to dance, we didn't have any clubs on Maui. So I started on Maui just with a pager, it's a dial up, and I would get the address and I would go to clients' homes, their personal homes, which is, you know, I mean, it's dangerous, it's extremely That's intense. Extremely risky and very intense. And I thought of myself as being a very intense person and a very strong, like,

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (10:24.232)
Resilient in a street smarts because I was on the streets, right? So I was like I'm in control of this. I got this I'm gonna do this. This is feeding me This is giving me this Independent of anybody else and this is the first time I've ever felt any sort of freedom So I'm gonna own this is what I thought and I was very cocky and rebellious and I definitely had that streak and I still do so I met him on a wahu and We started a relationship. I had my daughter

a year and a half later. And it was a it was not a great relationship. He's a professional athlete at the time. And it was really it was full of all the stuff you hear the domestic violence, the trying to get out trying to save my daughter, trying to have a different raise her differently. With an awareness and mindfulness that was absent from my childhood was

like the highest priority for me and to be in an abusive relationship with someone who I thought had all the attributes that were really going to I guess reflect what I thought was this up leveling that I had, you know, I I'm making money. I feel independent. I feel like I'm in control of things. I feel sort of powerful in a sense, right? To be in that position and situation was very confusing.

And it was very hard and there was a lot of shame involved and he used that a lot. So I finally had the courage to engage the resources in my community and helped women helping women as an organization that we have on Maui for domestic violence. And so I went through the channels and got myself out of this situation with my daughter only to be brought back into a much bigger battle.

which was a custody battle with an athlete who had an unlimited supply of resources financially. One who lied and cheated and it was a very extreme case. And for Maui, which is a small community, it really put me in an odd position in a pocket and I had to get back to making money in order to pay for a lawyer. So what did I?

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (12:50.046)
I went to Oahu to do the same thing, which was was used against me, of course, in court. So I really shot myself in the foot there, but also felt like there was no other way. Right. I felt like this is the only thing I can do. I had attempted to do many things and actually looking back on it now, I was, I had a bad ass list, like 50 miles long at that point, but

did not realize how much value I brought to the table and what I was actually capable of doing. So. Wow. That's incredible. Oh my God. There's so much I could say. First of all, you need to like copyright this because as you're saying it, I was like, this needs to be on HBO or Showtime. It's a great movie. It's a great script. Find a script writer and copyright it. I actually, yeah. You are? It's in the works. It should be. be. It's so compelling.

I wanted to ask you where you're talking about, you know, working in the adult industry, adult sex industry, dancing, when you were in it, was it more an overwhelming feeling of empowerment, like I'm making it, or was there more an overwhelming feeling of self judgment and you knew it was something you didn't want to be in? It was an overwhelming feeling of empowerment.

And and and i've i've actually shared this before it was it was sort of strange because I felt extremely empowered there were still instances where I was being taken advantage of I was getting hurt in the line of work because that's the risk you do whether you're in a club with a bunch of people that doesn't mean that a man isn't going to Reach over and help himself.

And it happened and it's sexually traumatizing and it adds to the pool of trauma I had already had, right? But it was, it sort of was my way again of showing men, and this is distorted, but still it was an experience I had of showing men that women are beautiful and we love them.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (15:12.127)
so much that we're willing to take off our clothes and show them all of our most deepest bits and pieces. And for me, I thought that somehow, psychospiritually, somewhere, that made sense. they could see that I loved them, they would return the love to me and to humanity. And maybe we would stop this violent relationship, the dis-profane

masculine and feminine could finally become divine and, you know, and reverent, right? And transcend that. So honestly, it was one of empowerment. I was definitely into being naked, which was different for me because I was very prude before this. And I just, it just continued to fill me with a sense of pride. I knew I was being judged, but at that point, it just didn't really matter. They didn't understand.

in my mind, it was like they were not understanding. Yeah. And if you look back on it now, do you have regrets about that process of moving through that part of life that way you did or how does it resonate now? I'm going to, all transparency, I have zero regrets for any part of my life. It literally, I have zero regrets because well, I don't

It's not a justification that I can say this. I'm super proud of how I came to where I am and I 100 % envelope and own that, that inner authority that I work with, that, that I know myself to be. And she had to come through the rungs. She had to put her

to the metal and do this work. It was a lot of shame that I had to weed through. And when it came down to it, a lot of that shame was coming from the outside, from outside of myself. It was external. It was people looking at me and me not understanding how I was participating in that relationship. pfft.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (17:22.784)
I have zero regrets. I'm okay that I took off my clothes for a living and the little mishaps that took me too far down the rabbit hole in that sex industry and the few times that I got hurt. And I understand the responsibility I have and hold with hurting myself in that way, but I also understand and forgive myself because in grace, I did the best that I could at that moment.

Bravo. I always want people to say that what you just said. Like I always want people to feel that. I don't want to front load the answer for them, but it's like, man, you know, own your shit. Totally own it, own it. All the ugly stuff, the ugly stuff. Cause the ugly stuff is the diamonds. My friend, Kathy, who's a bet on the podcast. She's a spiritual minister. She has, she's, she always is quoting the, know, you've got to

you've got to own a hundred percent of your 50%. Because like you said, there are driving factors that put you in that position. if you look at the total picture that you were forced there and pushed there and had no other choice, it just creates this horrible victim mentality. And then going forward, it's like, there's a piece of that story that you can't own, but you can control the narrative. And that's so empowering and beautiful.

My God, I you know so many people that didn't end up like you did, that didn't end up on the other side with a beautiful daughter, with a wonderful career, with some books out on Amazon. You you've, you've, you've, you came out of it really, really well. And I want to get into more of that. You have, you have to transition. So you have, you have love letters to a stripper and then you've got a newer book out, correct? Yes, I do. When I just talked about that one just launched in December.

my God, let's hear about it. So that one's called the spiritual entrepreneur quantum leap into your next level of abundance and, my gosh, abundance and impact. Jeez. Impact. Let's save, wait, let's save that brain fog moment. We'll, we'll do topic three, which I already have lined up, but let's say other book. I love it.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (19:41.208)
That's that's pretty funny, right? So that book is for all of my heart centered entrepreneurs who so I help those entrepreneurs, the spiritual entrepreneurs engage and remove blocks to create wealth. So I find a lot of I use my method of body, mind and spirit soul, right? Spirit soul. And in any one of those areas, which is an integrative of the whole, I use that

Method in the process of inner authority so how you just mentioned that you have to own every piece of your of your story of what's happened this responsibility that you have the hundred percent of the responsibility for the fifty percent right is extremely important and it has been a focal point in my life, so if I can own the story if I can if I can hold If I can hold the space

for my agreement, whether it was unconscious, subconscious, or otherwise, then I, if I can sit with that long enough, I start to receive that inherent wisdom and there's voice that's talking, right? And with that, I'm able to move through the shame or the anger, or maybe I need to forgive someplace, but at least I'm owning that.

which means that I actually am embodying my life force in its total meant to be state. And that has been extremely important to me, especially because of the physical manifestations that my trauma as a child took in my adulthood. And that's in the book. It's the trauma. actually wanted to, you had a,

guest on your podcast I think earlier this week or something his name was that court Davies and Yes, and he had said something that I completely resonate with he said can't he was talking he was speaking about cancer cancer is your body digesting a biological or an emotional shock, right and Like sit with that and then I would say that any diagnosis like physical manifestation is

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (22:05.969)
for that matter, an accumulation of trauma or a biological or emotional shock, right? So for me, when he said that, that is the spiritual entrepreneur in the book. actually address all those places where you might feel blockages to your next level. I love the book. I love my book. I love my book. I do.

I just do. love it. Well, I want people to read them. I want people to read both of them. How do you see, how do you witness, like when you're working with someone, you're coaching with someone, you know, these quantum jumps and removing these spiritual blocks. When you witness them remove the spiritual blocks, what are you seeing on your side? What I see on my, okay. So here is the greatest, I think for anyone.

There's an example, you you meet someone new and for whatever the reason is, all of a sudden you just hit this spot where you're in a conversation with this person and it's sort of like a ladder. It's like this, and this person says it, and it's like this, and this. And it's like the two of you become this one unit and you're potentiating each other because this person's stuff to you, material that you resonate so well that you never put into words, right?

but then you get that and then you add on to it. And then this consciousness just kind of climbs this ladder in a conversation in union with each other, right? So, and you can see that there's sort of a light in their eyes, they're getting it. You're just in tuned. You're very vibrationally in tune. And so when I work my three day immersives, so it's one thing to...

do the work the day before we do what we do on the second day. Words are so, deliver only so much powerful reality. Then when you step into your own experience, because it's a solo experience, I'm not actually doing anything with them in this immersive, right? They're experiencing that for themselves, but when they have context, when they've already got some sort of a conceptualized

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (24:28.69)
understanding, if you will, or awareness. And then they step in and then they step out. Spiritually speaking, they are turned on, their eyes are turned on, and now they're ready for integration. And that integration process is extremely empowering for them. There is a period of time where it's so dysregulating to your systems, that's energetically, that's psychologically, that's mentally, emotionally.

So you do have a period of time where you just low because it's such a huge impact and then you go on from there integrating in six months. You are not the same person. You just are not the same person at all. And from that point on, when that inner authority is turned on, when they can recognize that they're having a relationship, it's existing in their God pod, right? And they are ready to walk forward. They're just a different person. so I'm seeing,

I'm seeing people manifest the money that they wanted in the first place. There's a lot of generational victimhood mode, right? Scarcity mindset that is transformed, completely transformed. There are women who have sexual abuse stories who are now able to sit somatically in the experience of what they were not previously able to do. they can,

work in that and that's empowering. They can see their value and worth. So that's really giant. And there's just a lot more, but physically speaking, there are people that, know, heal headaches and whatnot. Yeah, I love it. lot of giant things. Yes. Yes. So what are some of the tools you say immersive, know, you an immersive experience three days, what are some tools that you get some of these?

massive shifts in consciousness on a spiritual energetic level. Well, one of the, I invite people who are ready to a three day immersive with me on Maui in plant medicine therapy. that in itself, taking alo. Yes, alo. Exactly. And so from there, that's not to say that

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (26:51.532)
I mean, that's a huge undertaking and you really have to clear and ready a body, and soul spirit. And I use a process for that before we enter this work. And there's a blueprint that's created between it's a Socratic, Somatic, intuitive, empathetic framework that I use. And it allows for me to, because I've been in my own journey.

I'm nearly holding space for that potential. I already know exists in them. I already know it's in every single one of us as human beings, right? It is who we are. We've all got God particle in Absa-freakin-lutely. Absa-freakin-lutely. So I know that without a shadow of a doubt, I hold that potential for them to then step into that. So we work the first day and

The week up to the three immersive, we work on these creating the blueprint. And I like to understand what it is that they want to transform and transcend. And so we work on that. And then the day before is very quiet. The day of very powerful, the day after integration. And then after that, there's a six month period where most people, if not 12 months, want to stay and work on that material. It's that unconscious sub material that they've excavated.

and are now ready to transform and transcend. Some people are walking out of our work together without having to think about it anymore, where they had ruminated endlessly for probably years on, happened to me and I've tried every modality and I've done everything I can think of and I'm stuck. And it's a big, I'm stuck, I'm confused, I don't know what to do. And then it just repeats and repeats.

people are walking away from the three day immersive with a great understanding and an extremely strong foundation with that. So. It's so funny. I think about college where I definitely experimented with psychedelics and mushrooms and did a little acid and I remember some other stuff. We won't go into that on the podcast, but I would get really, really

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Like it was a clear, looking back on it, I remember my friends kind of being like, I would get so self-righteous the other day and I'm like, guys, we shouldn't be abusing drugs. We shouldn't be talking to each other. You know, I get so introspective and using those, whatever you want to call it, soul helping shifters from a purely like entertainment lifestyle point.

but my soul was actually being like opened a little bit every time. Cause I was, and I couldn't deny it every time I would be very empathetic to like, lots of self judgment, lots of shame, lots of like, I shouldn't be doing this. I know I have more in me for, you know, the world. shouldn't be wasting my brain cells, yada, yada, yada. would always have those feelings. And so, you know, it's, it's been, it's been a, it really,

really pretty much since like like 2001 I've really been like I just don't enjoy I don't love getting high or or being inebriated or being in an altered state I've really come to love my state and realize like what a high vibration I'm at and the times when I'm drunk I feel or high I feel dull I don't have access to like the direct channel

to the solar system, which I pretty much feel like I have access to right now. And it's very unique. Now I understand that they are doing some amazing work with mushrooms, with plant medicine, with ecstasy, with acid for post-traumatic stress disorder, for healing trauma, for sexual abuse. It's like profound the healing experiences these humans are having. And it's...

I think in a because it's medicine of the earth and it needs to be used in the correct way. Like you said, you know, it, is a responsibility to using this. would like everybody on the podcast to hear that you can't just go and do plant medicine and be healed. You've got to do the work. You've got to do this spiritual work, the emotional work. And that is the hard stuff. Like any chronic illness or any chronic issue that you've been ruminating on it's difficult. And the experience with the plant medicine.

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whatever it's like a day, two day, three days that while that can be painful and pukey and diarrhea, like the real hard stuff comes after or before front loading it. And I'm sure, I'm sure you've seen that. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I like you when I was younger, I was experimenting with hallucinogenics as well. Psychedelics, right? And in each piece, um, and I started as I think I was 15, uh, MDMA and

I was ripped open in such a way, right? So here I'm having this, it was very chaotic life. It was a very chaotic life. And then I'd have these moments with these plants and these psychedelics and just walk away. And it got more existentially attuned to my, what was happening with myself and what was around me. And I'm extremely intuitive, psychic and empathetic. And I always have been, right?

So it just gave me a place to recognize even though I wasn't ready to fully embrace that relationship yet. Fast forward after doing those things, obviously the work that this potent work that I'm doing with plant medicine and this stuff, can be done without the plant medicine. Absolutely, in fact, I did that most of my career as

trauma-informed coach, cetera, but people are interested and people are, I'd like to say, waking up without being, I don't want to be righteous here and say people are waking up to, you know, earth medicine and the plant medicines and that it's more of a, I almost feel like it's sort of like a desperation. People are, there is a lot, there are curious people, then there is like,

the very, very desperate and then there are the desperate because they want to heal themselves. They're, they're curious. I think that that probably sounded like the same, like the same people. It's no, it's complicated and there's all types of different strokes for different folks. And this is, there is an awakening for sure in the planet. Like people want to be healed. And I think, you know, I ran a support group.

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last night in Reading, Connecticut, again, at this magical place I'm staying. And we have, you know, we have a barn here and we run a bunch of amp coils and we helped people with Lyme and autoimmune and lupus or frequency and vibrational energy. And the energy in the room and the circle of people that are just, my God, there was not a dry eye in the house for 40 minutes of just sharing and

the release of shame and judgment. And you watch people leave the meeting, you're like, well, they actually did like four months of healing just by being able to speak the word in front of other people who are not sick. Totally. Because that's courage and that takes time, but it's like, it's so important to go do the work, be alone, journal, meditate, go off on the intensive, reintegrate into life. 100%.

And then how do you bring that back? Here's what I think we're missing. How do you bring it back to community? That's right. How do you bring it back into the circle? I'll tell you a preach on that because the other day I just did a little snippet that I submitted to Forbes. What is the one of the best entrepreneurial traits of success? What is the trait of the most successful entrepreneurs? It's interdependence. And for this exact reason.

Interdependence you need to be heard and seen it is your divine right. It is also your responsibility to hold to hear to Exude that sense of belonging that you also crave as a Person in the world as a human being right and that in that interconnectedness and being in community is extremely powerful I didn't know that I was constantly trying to get away away away seclude myself Isolated I was an isolator

big isolator I hid hid hid hid hid and it wasn't until I was witnessed and I felt safe with the person who was witnessing me right that I understood that there was an element that I needed uh that was missing for me and that was what I actually craved I really wanted to be seen and heard and loved and accepted and I wanted to feel safe in belonging and obviously with

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people that, like I said, were safe and present and aware and mindful of that exchange. So that support group last night, definitely powerful, transcendent, potent, amazing, amazing. Yeah, it's amazing what the power of community can do. And just to backtrack on your desire to pull away and seclude,

Anybody out there who's feeling that they're like, I shouldn't be that's part of it. You need to go there too. You need to go through the journey. There's and there's no, you know, I, I've been coming upon this, this loops for me lately. Like I don't, there was a time where I just was like, I want to help people heal. I want to save people. I want to do good. I really don't. What I'd like to do is have enough educated awareness around what the journey has looked like for me. So when you show up,

and you want to join and share, we can see where there were similar touch points, but I don't want to deprive anybody of their journey. Totally. Because you got to go isolate. You got to go be alone. You got to go hurt. You might need to make that same mistake and that horrible decision that puts you in the corner crying with shame a hundred times. But when you're done and you're ready to move forward, trust me, you got your tribe out there. That is 100 % true. 100 %!

I want to go to chronic illness. And this is another thing that obviously, so again, Angelina was dropped onto the podcast by Super Media Connector from probably like Intervention from Toyri Duby. And Toyri Duby is a great friend of the podcast. And you know, this is another thing we hold in common. You've been through a little bit of chronic illness.

I wouldn't say a little, would say a giant amount just and my share, let's put it that way, my share. I, started in my childhood with migraines and knee pain, joint pain and tummy aches. And I was neglected. was my mother, she would call me a hypochondriac. So I did not have the best relationship with my symptoms body.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (38:44.122)
that kind of thing. Fast forward, let's see, where do we start? I really had a hard time for quite a long time. I would say by the age of 16, I was having extremely bad menstrual cycles. I mean, pass out, end up in the hospital was very, very dramatic and very intense. And I had, I had thought it was probably from the sexual abuse that I had had.

been exposed to, obviously. But I didn't know what to do about it. And so I just ran with it. And that sort of took me into where I was in 2006, I think I was 36 years old. And for about a few years before that, I had started to have like really strange menstrual cycles. They were up and down. had fatigue. was hardly barely

there I was very, very, very thin and frail. But yet I was, you know, I had three businesses, I was a single mother, I was working my ass to the bone, like really struggling, but bringing it in, I had just gotten custody of my daughter, which was a giant feat to do, right? I went back to work and did all that had to come home, then be a single mom with

cleaning company and a carpet cleaning company and a personal assistant company. And I was working like 17 hour days and I had had an opportunity to go to California to see a functional, an aging genius, think Teddy Rinker. And, she took so much blood out of my body and it came back with a diagnosis of chronic Lyme's disease, neurological Lyme's disease. And at that.

point when I got that diagnosis, already had so many different diagnoses. I was already doing so much like the herbs and I was already well in, I was well versed because trauma, chronic complex trauma, actually there's a physical symptom manifestation. It's trauma in the body. It's the dysregulation, the dysfunction. It's that emotional shock and that, what did he say? Emotional shock and biological shock.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (41:02.63)
because I was constantly being flooded with those stress hormones. was always hypervigilant. I was always in this chronic state of anxiety and it almost took me out. And so I crashed and entered into periodic paralysis and I couldn't talk. I couldn't walk. I couldn't eat. I have spent well over a million dollars and that is not a joke.

healing and and owning my experiences on every level I've done that so I went to Mexico was the first place that I went to where they were doing ozone therapy for blood at that time in a cancer Institute William Hitt Center and that was the gamut I have done the gamut right and It was informing and it was also difficult and the one thing that I think really

I would say I have healed in is knowing that I am the wise one of my journey and of what I need in any moment. And that comes from the relationship I have with my body and with my compass, my hell yeses and hell nos. I talk about it in my book. I'm the owner.

We were talking about it earlier. I just I own every piece and part of the story that I've lived as much as I can. There may be like I'm not saying I'm perfect. Jesus, that's not true. But I am perfectly imperfect. And I love that perfection. Right. love that perfection. But I because now I am in charge and I have allies, I call them informed allies. And my doctor at the time, Teddy Ranker,

After she diagnosed me and she wrote a book that was called renegade patient and it was for people like me She said it was a dedication to the Angelina's like you the people that are that renegade patient that say no That's not how I feel and that's not what's happening This actually is more like what it is and this is more what it is rather than letting someone tell you I started to tell them and in chronic Lyme at the time we were very

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (43:27.654)
And we still are, it's complex and I don't, I am not saying that I know how to heal Lyme's disease at all. That would be ridiculous to me. I've healed it for me. I it's in, I call it remission, chronic fatigue syndrome. I, that went into remission in 2014. I was able to that Ebsenbar and chronic fatigue syndrome. So I have healed. Yes, I have because I took

charge and mapped out what I needed and just developed that relationship with myself, which is extremely crucial, I think. And not easy, but yeah. Well, what percentage of the emotional work played into your transitional healing from Lyme? It was really large. It was very large. Here's the very interesting thing for me.

Wow, it was extremely large. I had conceptualized my entire life about how I should be relating to my body, disease, other people, et cetera, right? I was told I was programmed and I knew I was programmed. And at the same time, because I'm so rebellious, I'm going to deprogram myself. So was working on it in a certain way. It was a conceptualization, right?

But the moment I actually had the experience of being in my body and being so quiet and I was with a somatic experience therapist and and recognize and realized that there was an intelligence actually expressing itself through words that were coming in to my consciousness. That was we were we were dialoguing. We were also experiencing sensation. There was also

movements that I didn't have control of but were actually it was being moved through my body and then released and It was shocking because I had always conceptualized it and thought well It's deep and spiritual and I I feel like I should Have access to it and I felt like I did and sometimes I was like my pretending this just feels like I'm pretending but I really believe it and if I believe it really enough then it will happen and

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (45:53.28)
That is sort of how I was going on healing things my entire life until that moment where I realized that it's actually inherently in there. There is something happening and it's more than the concepts that you were raised with and shown in communities and in society and on the planet. And it's unique and it's you, know, the you. You can get existential or not, but yeah.

It's that. Yeah, it's unique and it's you. from my experience of, my goodness, you know, I'm so lucky to talk to so many sick people. You know, it's slime chronic fatigue, Epstein-Barr. It's just, it's a syndrome. There's many, many things going on.

that are causing that person to be sick or ill. Most people with chronic illness, they can say, well, it was on this day. I talked to a girl yesterday, this morning, that was like, I slammed my finger in the door. I got an infection in my finger. I took the antibiotics and the next day I woke up with lupus. And it was like, you...

From hearing that story so many times, pretty much every time, it's like, yes, I know. Wait, here's the part where you tell me where your partner cheated on you, you went to Puerto Rico, you drank the water and you came back with lime. Totally cascade. Yeah, it's a cascade effect. Very, very similar story. When I moved to New York City, the buildings from 9-11 were still smoking. I was out looking for a job.

At the end of the day, would go and I'd lay in the shower, I would cry because the empathetic energy I was taking on from New York of the sadness, the collective sadness, I didn't know I was an empath. But after a week of that, you better believe I woke up with crippling joint pain. And I was like, I don't remember being bit by a tick. I don't know. mean, I grew up, I bet I was bit by a hundred ticks. I grew up at a farm. Who knows? But it's this combination of the way we don't process emotions.

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It's a combination of this toxic world that we've designed for ourselves, the light, the wifi, the food, the sound, the emotional imbalances, you know, all of it, all of it. So we got to work on the whole picture. We got to work on the energetic system. So it's a systems approach to getting well is what I just, you know, I want to piggyback on all your discoveries, the amazing things that you're

you you're sharing with us and it's so, it's affirming to hear these stories where you have all these overlaps and healing. Well, look, they did that and they had this like compartmentalized system that took care of these eight areas at the same time and they worked through it and they found a new level. I'm sure, I mean, do you want to go back to before? Is it like, do you want to go back to before you were sick or you don't want to go back? You're like a super Angelina now. I would never, like I said, I had the regret, right?

I would never, and I am a super Angelina because now when I get sick, if I'm going to get sick or I have a, I have a system, right? I have a method and a system to go in and find where that resonance is off in out of alignment. And I can find it sometimes fast, sometimes not. And then I know how to write myself a prescription. I know what to, what to do. That doesn't mean I always know. Cause sometimes the prescription is to get into bed and just

freaking hate life for a while. just being, I allow myself that though. I allow, like you said, I allow those to hide. I allow, don't shame myself. I don't judge myself. I allow, I give myself what I need, no matter what it looks like to someone else, cause they are not in my experience and I'm the only one. And I have paid the cost to be my full boss. And that is it. That's the truth of that. And

All of that emotional, energetic release is extremely important. So I don't look at any one of those things as less than it's just an alignment in resonance. And I would not go back. No, I wouldn't go back. And not at all. love that word resonance. I've been studying resonance a lot lately because we were talking about, you know, with the technology that I work with, it's broadcasting a resonant frequency into the body.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (50:24.206)
not just a frequency or resonant frequency. Okay, well what's resonance? And the two great examples I have, it's like pushing a child on a swing set. If you meet him with the wrong force, you're gonna break your elbows. You have to meet the back of the swing and just drive extra energy. When you do, he's gonna swing higher. And it's a joyful experience for both the person pushing the swing and that person on the swing set taking the ride. It's like energy into the system and the energy is gonna grow. Or,

you can hit like a Tibetan singing bowl with a fork and it's like this high pitched ting and the sound's gonna die. But if you rim that bowl with like a wool mallet that sound, wah, wah, wah, wah, and it grows and grows and grows. You can feel that growth. So that's resonance. And you can feel resonance when you talk to somebody, like you said before, when you guys are climbing that ladder, right? To me that's resonate. You're like, you know, or like, or like you also could, it's like, you know, you get a hell yes.

Hell yes, that sounds like a good idea. I love the way you phrased that. That's so good. What a good way to tell your story. So I have resonance for your story and all your stuff. One thing I want to ask you is, do you ever have people, you're going to say yes. Do you ever have people that are like, wait a minute, who is this woman? There's like a sex worker, stripper.

plant medicine drug dealer who's trying to tell me how to live my life. Tell me about that. Is that like a big thing for you? Does that come up often? love that. I love that. Okay. I can see I did. Wait, let me laugh for a second. Yeah. It's so true. And I love the fact that you said what you said, because I think a lot of people think it, but they don't want to say it. And they think

I don't feel, no, suspect some of that and it's okay. So yes, I do. When it becomes, I haven't had a lot of debating conversations where it's felt where there's resistance because I just won't take part in those. And I'm not here to justify because by the way, it may not work. Well, it's definitely not gonna work for the person who thinks I'm a drug dealer in some way. That's something I don't even wanna, I don't wanna,

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (52:45.734)
Agree to be that person for that person, you know, i'm not going to agree to that relationship, right? But yes the sex worker part It's kind of interesting because I am a walking statistic throughout all of my childhood How where I ended up how I got myself out of that what and what I have actually transformed and then transcended and Been able to actually hold the space for other people. I think sometimes people don't take me seriously It's possible a lot of times people think that she's crazy

because she went through all that trauma. she's not, maybe she's not, I haven't had the conversation with somebody like that. I just have the run-ins and it's usually if it's tense, it's them tense. And like I said, I don't make the agreement with them. So I don't stay there. Other than that, I haven't had a lot of debating conversations that haven't resulted in someone feeling super safe with me.

And also very, I'm like, I hear the shit that nobody else wants to, they tell me stuff they're not saying to anyone else. And they'll even say that most of the time, my God, I've never told anyone that I've never told anyone this I've never told. So on the flip side, it does open the door for people who are curious, even if they're not, and if they don't know themselves to be curious, that happens all the time. So

I'm not making agreements with people that are thinking I'm crazy, know, sex. And you don't get you don't get hammered on like social media, anything like that. You know, the Internet trolls. They're pretty kind. No, I don't think they're pretty kind, but I don't pay attention to them and I don't have a lot of them yet. The Instagram at one point, it's sex workers. This is sort of a bit of a sad phenomenon and it's shifting. I can see shifts made in the sex industry, but it's women that profane.

feminine taking down taking down each other so It's from sex workers that are like who that you don't have street cred. I mean coincidentally I I don't know what I look like and I don't I don't really Concern myself with how other people see me in that way there is I do think about it But I'm not my gosh, do I look like this that or the other people don't?

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (55:08.602)
Sometimes they don't even believe I was a sex worker, that I was in the sex industry, that that is my story. Because you're too straight. You could never have been. get it. So I get it all. And that's probably the extent of it. And I bet you I will get more. Now that I am more, my work has been more contained. Now my work is more, my work is, I'm offering up to the bigger community of the planet.

Yeah, and you have a really clear direction on what you're offering is. So I also believe that to be true. And I don't want to call that in for you. just wondered. was like, I wonder how that plays out only because, you know, I do witness a lot of self-sabotage in the social media. I have a friend, Marcy Richardson, and I've been dying to give her a shout out on the podcast. This girl, Opera Gaga, I think is her Instagram handle.

And she is like a baller. First of all, she's a baller opera singer, unreal. And then she's she does, I mean, professional pole dancing and she does these opera arias on the pole. She's part of this massive theatrical company in New York City. I think it's company XIV and I've seen her in a couple of productions and and known her forever. And it's like, you know, she totally defies.

like this, like the definition of an opera singer and she puts it all out there on her Instagram and owns it, owns, takes her power. It's really beautiful. And I mean, I know people get very like, that's too much for me. Like she gets a lot of kickback and she, know, Marcy in her, in her own beautiful divine way, she just puts it out there, but her talent. And like, when you see her do her thing, it's off the hook. Right. Right. She's bought. I mean, it's just, it's just, she's owning that.

She's all on that and owning it. And so she has a community behind this social media. And like, I know social media is important for my work, for the voice that I have to actually reach further than what it could reach if I'm standing on the street corner in Seattle. Right. But I also have a community behind the scene, like behind that social media. And I am not dependent 100 % on these trolls.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (57:26.182)
Acceptance right or changing anyone's mind or if you vibe with me That's one of the reasons why I love social media because I can I can hop on there and talk and if you don't vibe with me Then right away you're gonna do what you do. But if you do vibe with me, that's the beautiful thing that I am That's what I'm looking for. That's what I'm looking. Yeah Yeah, that's all I'm working for. I've definitely had my experiences with crappy little trolls and

Thinking, you know, listen, that's what am I going to do? Should I not? Do I not? I have a little small story. Actually, I was just starting to use social media right before this. So my mother died in 2017. This may sound like a bomb sort of story. It's it's perfectly fine. She suffered a great deal physically chronically ill. I there was my marker right there. She died. I was rebuked.

In the process of that, this Me Too hashtag, Me Too started. And at the same time, I was also writing my love letters to a stripper book and I was using social media to sort of engage the sex industry. And in that, one of my abusers tried to contact me through social media. That to me was more of a,

Okay. And I literally shut everything down. I'm like, Whoa, that's too much. Like the me too movement is happening. I'm starting to come out there with my voice about sexual abuse and being a sex worker, et cetera. And then one of my abusers from my childhood is trying to contact me through. I shut it all down. And the coach I was working with, thank Susan Hyatt. I love her. She just said to me, are you going to let those MFs shut you down?

Or are you going to rise the way that you that you do in your life? It doesn't matter. So she sort of held space for me to realize that that that power that I got scared that I gave him in that moment of being afraid of being on social media. I was in agreement with that. Right. And so I just, you know, he couldn't hurt me anymore. And it was a cut. didn't.

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (59:40.582)
I didn't realize that I had to go through the entire process of owning that experience. So I had to have that moment of fear and I literally shut down my body stopped. got fatigued like crazy. You know, I had the whole thing just start. I'm like, oh my gosh, this isn't okay. I don't want him to know anything about me. And I want to see, I don't want him to see my daughter. And, and then I just went into the stories of all of that trauma and she just picked me up and held the space. She's like,

but he's not here. And if he does, you block him. And so she just sort of walked me through the process of owning the other side, the me that I had already become, that I had arose, that I had arisen to and meet me there. And through that, I just healed that piece. So that was probably my biggest to date experience with something immediate-wise. Yeah. Amazing.

So I wanna, we're almost at our hour, we're a little over our hour. So I wanna ask you, I wanna ask you a final question that all guests answer except for like the 25 that I forgot to ask. What does it mean to you to be beautifully broken? Oh wow. The first word that comes to my mind is excitement, alignment. I'm just getting words in my,

My body feels happy and joyful.

humbled, really humbled that I can see the beauty in the brokenness and the trauma that I experienced in my lifetime. And I just hold and pray for grace to continue to feel that excitement about feeling broken when I do and to continue to embrace and embody

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (01:01:41.793)
my inner truth, my inner authority in deep resonance with my soul, spirit, and who I came to the planet to be. That's beautiful. I love your word association and how easy those flowed. And truthfully, you know, for people out there that want to listen to this podcast, just, you know, when you hear an episode like this, and I know this one will be a great episode for people to listen, I'm already excited.

And not to self praise, but I'm to go ahead and self praise. the last six episodes of this podcast have been off the hook. mean, it's like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. There's like, you know, it's just you, get into the pocket and you get these guests on that are just inspired and they have an amazing message to share. You know, we've just been really blessed. So

Yeah, channeling some good stuff. Channel some stuff from the highest, yes. So I think we have, we'll have an opportunity, Angelina, if you want to do this again in the future, we can do another one. 100%. I would love that. I also, can I just add? I also want to gift any of your listeners my books. absolutely, I would love to actually send.

Any one of the listeners on this podcast if they want to send me an email and just put your name and They can send an email to Angelina at Angelina Lombardo calm Super simple and I would love to gift my books to any of the listeners who are and they can take one or both But I I'm happy to gift anyone interested That's so kind. Yes

That's a really beautiful way to move the world forward. agree. Thank you. I thank you for being here. You're an awesome guest. You're like right at the top. I love it. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. You have no idea. I truly, I adore you. I feel very, uh, can use the same word, resident. I feel aligned with you. I do. Your energy is, is, is really nice. It compliments. We're probably going to

Freddie Kimmel and Angelina Lombardo (01:04:01.049)
collaborate on like an alive, event and bring people some next level healing shit. That sounds amazing to me. I am so game for that my friend. You got it. I love it. Well, thank you for being on the podcast. Angelina Lombardo. Thank you for having me. Yes. Namaste. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, you made it to the end of the podcast. Now in a world where the average attention span is less than 10 seconds,

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