The Healing Power of Hydrogen: Gut Health, Longevity, and Recovery with Dr. Paul Barattiero

WELCOME TO EPISODE 254

What if changing the water you drink could transform your gut health, lower inflammation, and boost vitality? In this episode of the Beautifully Broken Podcast, Freddie sits down with Dr. Paul Barattiero, founder of Echo Water and pioneer in molecular hydrogen research. Paul shares his journey from helping his wife overcome debilitating health issues to developing one of the most trusted hydrogen water systems in the world. He explains how molecular hydrogen works as a selective antioxidant and signaling molecule, why gut health is the foundation of immune resilience and longevity, and the role of Oxidation Reduction Potential (ORP) in restoring beneficial gut bacteria.

You’ll also learn how hydrogen impacts oxidative stress, chronic inflammation, brain function, and mitochondrial health; practical methods for using hydrogen such as bottles, baths, and inhalation; and why third-party testing is crucial in a crowded marketplace. Paul shares research-backed benefits ranging from athletic recovery and skin health to fasting support and LDL reduction, offering listeners a clear path to integrating hydrogen into their wellness routine. Hydrogen may be one of the most underutilized wellness tools available today—tune in to discover why this tiny molecule could make a huge impact on your health journey.

 

Episode Highlights
[00:00] – Why molecular hydrogen is one of the most underutilized wellness tools on the planet
[03:27] – Dr. Paul’s personal story: healing his wife’s debilitating health issues with hydrogen water
[10:44] – Understanding ORP and why gut health is the foundation for immune function
[19:30] – How hydrogen manages oxidative stress, inflammation, and brain function
[32:20] – Why Echo Water can rehab your gut in just two weeks
[36:50] – The Echo Flask: portable, unbreakable hydrogen water on the go
[48:43] – Different ways to get hydrogen—drinking, bathing, and inhalation—and which is most effective
[55:45] – The history of hydrogen-rich hot springs and their global healing reputation
[01:07:11] – Favorite studies: longevity, diabetes, and anti-cancer benefits of hydrogen
[01:14:57] – How professional sports teams like the 49ers and Dodgers use Echo Water for recovery

 

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel (00:00.877)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the beautifully broken podcast. We're back and we are talking about hydrogen with molecular hydrogen with Dr. Paul. Welcome to the show.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (00:09.858)
Thank you so much, Freddie.

Freddie Kimmel (00:11.491)
It's good to see you, man. I've seen you for years at events in the wellness world, and it's so wonderful to swing back around and have this conversation. I'm so proud of what you're doing. You guys make excellent, excellent products. Yeah. I wanted to have this conversation because there's so much noise in the world around molecular hydrogen. Let's start there. Why is this something?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (00:25.87)
Thank you.

Freddie Kimmel (00:38.441)
the near very short timeline on the planet, why do you spend time with molecular hydrogen as a wellness tool?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (00:47.096)
So I've been doing this 20 years. I know for most other people, hydrogen is new and fresh and current, but Echo water is 15, almost 16 years old now. Isn't that crazy to think 15 years, 16 years, and everyone's like, yeah, you were the first I remember. And I'm like, yeah, we were the first and we're still patented. We're still all the innovation we're doing our thing, but

Freddie Kimmel (01:03.567)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:16.268)
What people need to know is that Echo water is a result of me healing my wife with hydrogen 20 years ago. That's for me, my why, that's why I did this originally is after healing my way wife and having her thriving, I was like, there's gotta be a lot of other husbands or people that are suffering and don't know what to do.

Freddie Kimmel (01:42.265)
Yeah, can you tell us a little bit about that story? happened?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:45.518)
Yeah. So, yeah, I've been married 31 years now after 10 years of marriage. My wife, the first 10 years of our marriage, my wife was really not doing well. She had thyroid issues, gynecological issues. When she was on her menstrual cycle, we would lose her a week out of each month. So she, I think it all started when we got married and this is a little personal. So, you know, let's walk down this journey together.

Here's the deal. She wanted to go on birth control. And I was like, please don't do that. I'll wear a condom. And she's like, no, I don't want you to not have the greatest experience. said, honey, I'm a guy. We will always have a good experience during relations, right? Like, I'm sorry. It's, know, and she goes, no, no, I'll do. Well, now I know a hundred percent. I did not know then, but she went on birth control and within four months she gained 60 pounds. And

her crisis started then, which we had no idea that birth control could do that. Now that I've done all the research, birth control messes a lot of women up and it's really tragic. So my wife's health issues started then. And of course she went off of birth control and I did start using a condom. And then we found out, guess what? Four years later, I stopped and she didn't get pregnant.

And it actually took us 10 years to get pregnant with our son Jackson, who's now 22. Cause you never know how things are going to go. Right. And all this planning we think we're doing sometimes it's in vain because she couldn't get pregnant. So then we had to go through a process to get her detox and we had to get all this stuff. And so she ended up having a baby. And of course now we have our miracle son Jackson, but her menstrual cycle was so bad that she would lose 30 to 40 ounces of blood.

her cycle and she was soaking two tampons and a pad an hour. And so she was highly anemic. She would just faint. And so it was a tough time to be honest. I was, I was 31 at the time and was just like, my gosh, what is happening? I love this woman. She's the love of my life. I don't want her to pass away. There were a lot of issues. It was pretty, pretty tough at the time.

Freddie Kimmel (03:47.045)
Wow.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (04:11.254)
And so I was looking for how to help her. I had some dear friends that I went to church with and I served with and they had an organic food store. 9-11 occurred. No one's coming to Disney World. We lived in, in Kissimmee area and guess what? How their business was in trouble. Cause people were not going to Disney World. so typically people that were coming to Disney and wanted organic food, they will go to their store, buy organic food for their condos.

And then in the evenings when they weren't at Disney, they were eating organic food. So here comes nine 11 people aren't flying. My friend's business is tanked half and they're coming to me going, uh, we're in trouble. Can you help us? Can you loan us money to get us through this tough time? I'm 31 years old and I'm like, sure, I can help you. I'm not going to give you everything you're asking for. You need to find someone else to give you the rest, but I'll help you this much. Right.

And they're like, we'll pay you back in three months or four months. And of course I know, and you know, Freddie, it never happens that way. If they say three months, multiply that by five, right? And so, and then it was still longer. But the point is, eventually I just said to them, hey, don't worry about the interest, just pay the principal. And that was the greatest thing I did because as a thank you, they did finish paying us back, they took us on a cruise.

As a thank you and on that cruise they brought water with them a little suitcase with gallon Containers of water in it and I was like, what are you guys doing? What is that? Why you bring a water on a Chris, you know every other crews I've been on they've had water there, you know, they're like, don't drink that water You know, they were all into their water and I'm like, what is this water and they're like, we don't know

Freddie Kimmel (05:49.325)
Hahaha

Dr. Paul Barattiero (06:01.462)
What it's really doing, but we have hundreds of people every day buying water by the gallon That's what saved the company and that's how we were able to pay back and I'm like, okay great Didn't think anything of it. We get on the ship My wife is on her first day of her menstrual cycle on that Sunday morning and she was doubled over in pain in the backseat of the vehicle all the way from Kissimmee, Florida down to Fort Lauderdale and I'm telling you I figured out crap

she's not gonna be here for this nine day cruise, but maybe two days at the end. And I'm like, that sucks for me, you know? So we get on the ship, I get her in the cabin, she's laying down. I go to art auction, come back, how you doing, baby? I go, you know what I mean? I'm just going to doing different stuff on the ship. I don't wanna be a jerk, but I don't wanna just sit there and read a book either, right? So we're sitting there and she goes, hey, I'm thirsty, can I have some water? And I'm of course, I get her, you know, the water our friends brought.

She drinks it. Can I have more? Yeah. Can I have more? Yeah, babe. That's a lot of water. She goes, yeah, I don't know what it is. I can't stop drinking this water. And I'm like, what? And she's like, yeah, she puts her fist together like this. She's like, my body's craving this water. And I'm like, okay, odd, but all right, you know? And so I didn't think anything of it. I drank the water. I didn't sprout wings, didn't fly, didn't levitate up around. Nothing crazy happened.

I'm just like, it's water, bro. That's what I drink every day. So it is what it is. She within a day and a half was up and around and participating on that cruise. And I'm like, Whoa, what the heck? I told my friend, what's up with this water? Jacqueline normally would be bed bound almost for a whole week. And she's up and around and we're a day and a half into this cruise. This is incredible, right? Cause we were going to the Costa Rica. We were going to Panama to see the Panama Canal. We weren't going through the Panama canal.

We were going to go see the Panama Canal and watch ships go through. And I mean, she participated in the entire cruise and it was amazing. And so we're sitting at breakfast and I'm like, tell me about this water. And they're like, we don't know anything about it other than it saved our company and people with all kinds of medical issues are being healed. And some dude that had a big growth on his leg, it's gone. And I'm like, okay, can you give me some information other than these fantastic stories?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (08:23.288)
And they're like, no, not really. And I'm like, you're scaring me. But I believe, I believe them because they were close friends, but, and I trusted them, but I'm like, you guys can't say this kind of stuff. Like this is claims. Like these are serious medical clearing claims. You got to be really careful what you're doing. And of course at that time in my career, I was focused on diabetes. I had a therapeutic shoe company where we were

Freddie Kimmel (08:48.037)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (08:52.438)
Medicare approved shoes for the diabetic shoe bill. And that's what my whole world was preventing amputations really is, you know, and, the cubitus ulcers on people's feet. I definitely wasn't in the water space in any way, shape or form. And so, you know, I'm asking them what's going on. They're telling me all these fantastic stories and they know nothing about it. And then they try to say, it's the pH of the water. And I'm like, no, no, no, I can't go there with you. That's false. I can tell you that a hundred percent. It's not true.

I don't know what's going on with his water to help my wife, but I said it is not the pH because if it was pH we could put baking soda in water and she would have had the same effects and trust me She has drank making soda and water and it didn't have these effects So 100 % it didn't and they're like well, we don't know that's what we were told and I'm like I know you were told that now keep in mind this was many years ago this was 2005

Freddie Kimmel (09:44.239)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (09:47.15)
Okay, so 2005, November 2005, we got on this cruise. There was no alkaline water movement. There was, was such a small, there was no Kangen water company here. There was none of this stuff, right? This was a small little company called Alkalizer, this machine they got from Japan and the curse they're way out of business now, but it helped my wife and I wanted to understand why.

So I started to do some research. I couldn't find anything that made any sense. And what I came to after doing like a year and a half research and ended up getting into the business of alkaline water machines, Jupiter science brand, I ended up selling with a company. I was partner with a company called iron life. And what I realized is that the ORP of the water, not the pH, but the oxidation reduction potential, the electrical potential in the water did have an effect on her gut.

And that was able to help her enough for that cruise. And then within six months, her menstrual cycle was normal. And I was like, what in the actual heck is going on here, right? Like, my heavens, there's something here. This wasn't just a cruise miracle. This was like her menstrual cycle's normal and she's not bed bound for a week every month. I gotta look into this and find out what's going on.

Freddie Kimmel (10:50.789)
Hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (11:11.04)
And my wife had been going to their store and getting gallons of water. I just wasn't aware of it. And so it helped her. So I started doing research and figured out that electrolysis, which is what their machine was using, creates that ORP. The pH is also created, but the pH doesn't matter. It doesn't make a hillebenes difference with the body because it doesn't survive stomach acid. But the ORP, the electrical potential can help the gut. I found some studies on that.

Freddie Kimmel (11:15.877)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (11:40.162)
But then what I discovered is what causes the RP? Well, when hydrogen gas is present in water, it changes the RP. But I tested this water way back and there was no hydrogen in it. There was just the RP. There was no hydrogen left. And so I started figuring out if we actually get the hydrogen to stay in the water, that has even more benefits. And that's when my wife's health really skyrocketed was when we were getting actual hydrogen.

Into the water she was drinking and so then by 2009 which was four years later I Had already sold hundreds of thousands of alkaline water machines, but I knew it was nothing to do with the pH It was hydrogen I talked to my partners at the time and said we need to start talking about hydrogen and they're like you're crazy We're selling you know we're getting we're doing 21 million you we were a million dollar company when you came here We're 21 million now three years later

What are you talking about? We got to change our story. And I'm like, truth is truth. I don't want to share anything that's false. And so they said, no, thanks. I exited the company on my birthday, August 2nd, 2009. And I began developing echo. And by 2011, we launched and began shipping the echo machine, Dr. Mercola having the first one, the first echo seven machine. He'll always go down in history as the

Freddie Kimmel (12:56.197)
Hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (13:09.23)
first one to have an echo machine, but the reality is that changed our life. It changed my wife's life. Having the hydrogen in the water was everything for her and still to this day, she tells people that's why I'm alive. And she's much better today than she was then. mean, she's, you know, lives a wonderful life. And of course, 20 years later now we're married 31 years and.

Freddie Kimmel (13:25.785)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (13:34.306)
having the best time ever, but that's the story. It's a little bit more drawn out version of it, but that's what happened in detail.

Freddie Kimmel (13:41.953)
Amazing i want to go back to just a couple terms of the audience you said or p oxidation reduction potential. What does that mean what what's the value of what's the biological value to the body when that's where that's a current in us drinking this water.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (13:58.008)
So all that matters in our life is gut health, right? If we want immune function, if we want our antioxidant pathways, if we want all this stuff going on, we need to have our gut. Well, what does it mean to have your gut working right? It means the bacteria in your gut are the correct bacteria. And that would be 96 to 99 % should be anaerobic microflora.

Only one to 4 % one to 4 % should be aerobic. Well, when people have antibiotics or they do other, knows what, then you end up with more aerobic bacteria than you should. And so how do we get, how do we rehab the gut? How do we get the anaerobic microflora back? These little microbes like an electrical environment that works for them.

So years ago, they did a study in Russia to show that anaerobes, strict anaerobes want an electrical environment of a negative 300 to a negative 400 millivolts of electrical potential in the tissue of the gut. The water having that property will seed the gut and the terrain and the biome.

to create that environment for these microbes to come in and live again and participate with life and create communities and live. Right. And of course that benefits us because now you have immune function. Now you can actually digest food properly because fermentation is what happens in our body. And that requires these anaerobic microflora. They are what consumes fats and fiber and all this stuff. So

People don't understand digestion, but it's actually a fermentation process. And if we don't have the right fermentation process, that's why people have diarrhea that eats salads, because they can't process fiber. They have the wrong bacteria in the gut. So what I discovered during that time was that in Japan, they did a 15 year human trial.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (16:12.438)
And, and all they said at the end of this human trial is that they cured improper fermentation. Well, if you understand medicine and you understand the function of the body, curing improper fermentation means you fix their gut, which means you're going to fix disease models, not that we're going after cancer, diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's. We're going after the gut. We want to rehab the gut. want to have the gut in two weeks fermenting foods properly. So you no longer have gluten and dairy intolerance. You no longer have all these issues.

because you can process fatty acids, fiber, the normal naturally occurring foods. But to be able to do that, you have to have anaerobic microflora and you have to have your gut intact. And so that is what happened to my wife. That's what started to happen with other people. That's what hydrogen is able to do. And more importantly, that's what ORP does. It creates the environment for the bacteria to come back in and live there properly. And, and, and that's what people are missing. We talk about.

Gut dysfunction. Everyone's talking about gut dysfunction, but no one has a clue what's really going on. They don't know their bacteria is off. They think, I have leaky gut. And I don't know what people are thinking. Like poops rolling down their leg. I don't know what leaky gut means because it's clearly an open tube, right? But what's leaky gut? I, nothing's coming down my leg. And so the point is it's a bacterial problem. Gut dysfunction is a bacterial and it's a

electrical potential issue. And it's not like you have electricity in your tissue of your gut. It's a potential and electrical potential called an ORP oxidation reduction potential. And that simply creates the lining of the colon is really what we're concerned about the lining of the colon. If it has the right electrical potential, which ECHO water does within two weeks, you can have someone who's gluten and Darien tolerant.

Freddie Kimmel (17:42.757)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (18:08.704)
eating gluten and dairy with no inflammatory response. That's amazing to me. So that's what I'm talking about when we talk about RP.

Freddie Kimmel (18:14.02)
Yeah.

Yeah, no, it's great. I think it's just good for people to get a little background. And then can we move to what is the mechanism of action? What is hydrogen doing for the body when we're ingesting?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (18:30.478)
So first I'm gonna answer that question by giving a little background. Our bodies are designed to produce hydrogen gas. It's called flatulence. Or after today, you'll call it fart therapy, because now you know it's good for you, right? And all these husbands are like, see, babe, I'm healthy, I'm farting all the time. And that doesn't mean that's true, but the point is we are designed to ferment food. And when you ferment food, just like a car has a tailpipe, your body has a tailpipe.

Freddie Kimmel (18:35.193)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (19:01.142)
And just like a car gases are coming out of your towel pipe when you convert fuel into energy when our body converts fuel and energy we have gases that come out and so hydrogen methane right these are some of the gases that are in flatulence. So first of all hydrogen is so critical that we have a hydrogen generator built into us. I want people to understand.

Almost 65 % of our body is hydrogen. If we look down to a molecular level, we're carbon hydrogen chains. So guess what? If you are a carbon hydrogen chain and you lose the ability to produce hydrogen naturally, guess what happens to your body? You're screwed.

Freddie Kimmel (19:35.939)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (19:49.166)
So when people have gut dysfunction, really what we need to understand is you have an inability to produce hydrogen the way you're supposed to. And so your gut is off. So your digestion is going to be off. Your immune function is going to be off because 70 % of immune function is tied to gut, right? So all of these things happen to you. Hydrogen, the reason why we are supposed to produce hydrogen is because it manages oxidation, inflammation.

brain function, right? Our entire nervous system, electron transport is sped up to a trillionth of a second when hydrogen is present. The University of California San Bernardino discovered and called it a picosecond. But they said that when hydrogen gas is present, electron transport is sped up to a trillionth of a second. So our nervous system, our neurons are moving the way they're supposed to. Our mitochondrial function,

Because if we really look at us as a total or totalitarian, if we look at our entire body, we effectively are constantly keeping oxidation in a normal range because oxidation is normal and natural, but oxidative stress is not. So when we have gut damage, we lose the ability to keep oxidation in a normal range. And so we end up with oxidative stress.

And then the body is going to deploy inflammation to fix. And so if we don't take away the source problem of why the oxidative stress is there, then we're going to end up with oxidative stress and chronic inflammation. And I'm not talking inflammation, like you stubbed your toe or hit your arm on a wall. I'm talking inflammatory response in your body, subtle kind storms, right? Things that are going on inside your system that you may or may not be aware of, but

they will come up on biomarkers if you look at inflammation systemically, right? But what I'm saying is the combination of oxidative stress and chronic inflammation is disease. That's your leading cause of disease is the combination of oxidative stress and chronic inflammation. Now you have many pathways to get there, but it all comes from your gut has been disrupted. So hydrogen primary role is

Dr. Paul Barattiero (22:16.768)
manage oxidation to keep you from getting oxidative stress and to manage inflammation Well, that's where your joint issues are coming from that's where your brain issues are coming from that's where plasticity problems are coming from that's where your mitochondrial function your hydroxyl radicals in the mitochondrial respiratory chain, it's all oxidative stress and So if hydrogen is in your system all those things drop

Into a normal range again. Now your mitochondrial function is offloaded and you're able to have as much energy as you want. That means your recovery times if you're an athlete are cut down 80%.

your brain function because plasticity, I drink this water, three minutes later, I have gastric ghrelin going to the hippocampus, the hypothalamus and the brainstem because when the water with hydrogen gas, the echo water with hydrogen gas hit my stomach, gastric ghrelin is signaled to go to the hippocampus, the hypothalamus and the brainstem to change cognitive function. That should always be happening.

Freddie Kimmel (23:22.34)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (23:23.68)
And it's not if you don't have hydrogen. So people are like, whoa, I feel clarity. I feel energy. My sleep was better the first day. My digestive problems are gone. I can eat whatever I want. Like these are all the things people say within a few days, which all that is important because if you can digest properly, that means your entire immune function is better too.

And I believe that, and this isn't science, but I believe people are walking around with 30 % immune function. And if we can raise them up, my gosh, people are more, less susceptible to issues and more stability of a body. That's when we see, you know, LDL reduced 15, 16%, which is typically what we're seeing in most of the studies. When you drink hydrogen water, LDL is reduced because

Oxidative stress is reduced systemic.

Freddie Kimmel (24:21.604)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (24:23.586)
If people understand the process of why cholesterol was there in the first place, it's because the body was worried about hemorrhaging because the plasticity of the veins and vessels are gone. And so you could have a rupture. So hydrogen coming in there and going, we'll get rid of this oxidative stress. Now your veins and vessels are have plasticity, they're flexible and all the hormones that would be released when the pressure of the blood pumping through your veins happens. If they

with the process of the veins and vessels expanding and contracting releases hormones as well. People don't understand this. So cholesterol is just a patch that the body puts there to protect you. Amazingly, your body knows where it put that cholesterol. So it'll take it back when you don't need it anymore. And cholesterol is incredible because it's a huge energy source for the body. And so people need to stop worrying about

Freddie Kimmel (25:07.653)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (25:18.596)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (25:22.37)
their cholesterol levels as much as we're told to because it's a huge energy source. But where the problem is for cholesterol is if we get too many patches, we start to have blood pressure issues on the backside of blood pressure. But that really is because of oxidative stress and inflammation. And so where we need to focus isn't cholesterol reduction. It's reducing oxidative stress and inflammation systemically because the

The benefits of doing that are huge in the body does that make sense?

Freddie Kimmel (25:58.405)
Yeah. Yeah, 100%. 100%. When I was in the world of suffering really, really bad gut dysfunction, had horrible SIBO, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, had transit time issues, one thing that we did, we were looking for our ratios of methane dominant bacteria to hydrogen producing bacteria. And I started to see, now I didn't...

Dr. Paul Barattiero (26:09.859)
Go on.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (26:20.846)
Right. Right.

Freddie Kimmel (26:25.059)
I didn't know hydrogen was the thing. is back 2011, 2009, 2010. But there were studies that associated longevity with those hydrogen producing bacteria within the gut, which my ratio was off. And it was really interesting to just see some of those data points now where...

Dr. Paul Barattiero (26:35.661)
Yes.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (26:42.178)
Yeah, use them on hydrogen tropes. Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (26:51.183)
tying this in with like a longevity stream of consciousness where these things are beneficial. The other thing that happened with the methane producing bacteria were slowing gastric emptying. It was slowing transit time. now it's more well, some of the population that's treating in clinical medicine is understanding that the methane dominance, that is going to drive your severe constipation over time.

that there's gonna be the body because that ratio like we've talked about in the gut is off. That's why we get the symptom. We don't wanna just treat the constipation. We wanna look at this terrain. Again, we're always coming back to terrain. Yeah, it's fascinating.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (27:31.202)
Right? Absolutely. Yeah, it is. And so that was my wife's issues. My wife is extrinsic. very sensitive to everything. So she's my canary in the coal mine. Like, if someone says to me, this is a modality to work. I give it to her. And she's like, Nope, I nothing. Like, yeah, it's not. It always turns out that wasn't correct. But when I give her stuff that works, she's like, I feel that. Right. And so

Freddie Kimmel (27:36.58)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (27:45.605)
That's right.

Freddie Kimmel (27:59.141)
100%.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (28:01.09)
God blessed me with her and my gosh, everything I've done amazing in my life, I could say it was the healer. So there's nothing great about me. It's my wife that's great. And God was like, let me give her to him because he will do the work and he will love her and cause her to thrive. And she's one of my great daughters and I'm going to give her to this son over here, right? And they're going to make this work. Well, literally we now have millions of people.

Freddie Kimmel (28:06.309)
That's right.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (28:30.638)
that are being benefited by hydrogen because hydrogen is critical. If we went into all this, it would take us 10 hours of this podcast just to cover basics. You know, cause I said earlier, gastric ghrelin, if people understood what ghrelin manages in the body from circadian rhythms to, know, my gosh, like clarity in your brain, people with tremors, I've given people with tremors, echo water.

And in 10 minutes, their hands are still and that's ghrelin secretions. It's not striatial hydrogen. There's no hydrogen going to the brain to fix things. It's ghrelin, which is an mRNA, a natural, not the thing we've been hearing about in the news, but a natural mRNA. So understand that all these things are amazing, but we first need to focus on our gut. And when people say, what's the first thing I should do to improve my health? It's gut.

Freddie Kimmel (29:01.349)
Hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (29:28.822)
When I became an ND and I did my dissertation, I did it on longevity and I studied the 4,000 centenarians. I was like, I'm, sick of listening to people that have ideas about longevity. I want to actually study people that live past a hundred, cause that's actually people that are have longevity. Let's look at what they actually did. And the only commonality I could find beyond like, you know, they went outside every day. It was the fact that their gut bacteria was intact. So.

Freddie Kimmel (29:46.373)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (29:58.378)
I will tell you the thing that people should focus on is having your gut be intact. You will have longevity period, unless you step out in front of a Mack truck or a bus. But the point is from you won't die from, you know, early you'll age gracefully. look at telomeres, telomeres lengthen when you're drinking hydrogen water, but with cancer cells, the telomeres shorten, isn't that incredible?

And so that's where we need to understand about hydrogen is it is not like a typical antioxidant. There is no electron donors ship. It is a selective antioxidant because it's only reacting with cytotoxic or cell damaging oxygen radicals like

hydroxyl radicals, superoxide, right? These bad oxygen radicals that destroy cell function. That's what hydrogen does. And the rest of what hydrogen does is signal modulation. So it's, in other words, it's like a manager in the office. Managers don't always do the most of the work, but they just get other people doing what they're supposed to be doing and coordinate things. That's how hydrogen is. Hydrogen really isn't doing the heavy lifting.

Hydrogen is just like a coordinator or a manager getting all the stuff to work the way it's supposed to work

Freddie Kimmel (31:19.001)
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. That's usually what I explain to people when they're asking me the value proposition. I'm saying hydrogen is a selective antioxidant. And I think that's, you know, you're saying it's reactive to those cytotoxic radicals. There's no electron donorship. Also really interesting in the way it works. And essentially a signaling molecule within the body to bring these systems that again, I think we're both saying this a couple times, not hydrogen treating the disease.

It's the body's innate immune system and gut bacteria and that balance within the terrain that's doing it. just, giving something that's supportive to that terrain.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (31:50.478)
Correct.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (31:56.546)
Yeah, and gut damage causes a loss of hydrogen and therefore disease. I mean, it's really simple.

Freddie Kimmel (32:01.783)
Yeah. Yeah. So let me ask you this. So the understanding of the statement is that drinking hydrogen water, yes, we get all these beneficial signaling molecules, but how is that? Is it changing the gut dysbiosis, that flora and fauna balance, because it's just present? And that's enough so the body can hopefully innately rebalance?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (32:27.822)
Well, remember it's changing the environment with the, we call what we're calling the ORP because of the fact that the water now has a different electrical potential. It is creating the environment because as that water is going through the intestinal tract, it's creating the environment that those bacteria can thrive in. Now there are other ways to do it. You could spend two years eating mostly vegetables. You could spend time eating.

Freddie Kimmel (32:45.445)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (32:55.818)
meat that has fiber and forcing slowly the bacteria to rise, rise, rise that can handle fiber. Right? So a lot of these diets that are, have very good outcomes and benefits that are effectively cutting sugar out. What are you really doing? If you're cutting sugar and carbs, you got nothing for aerobic bacteria to eat. So they're going to go away and you're giving short chain, medium chain.

fatty acids and fiber by eating meat and, you know, naturally occurring vegetables. That's what you're putting in the gut. You're automatically going to have diarrhea initially because you can't process that stuff, but you're going to force those bacteria to come a little more, come a little more, come a little more. And after a long period of time, you're going to end up having a gut that's balanced. I'm simply saying you can drink Echo water for two weeks.

And get it done. So you don't have a one year, two year nightmare on your hands. And I think if someone really went hardcore on a diet, that's mostly mean stuff, they don't have those issues. It'll happen a little faster than two years. Cause you're not introducing all the pesticides and stuff at the same time, because you're going to be eating cleaner. You're going to be eating different stuff, but the typical population that's eating a balanced diet.

Of everything that they can put in their mouth. They will be getting pesticides. They will be getting heavy metals. They will be getting all the stuff which is going to be damaging the gut at the same time. They're improving the gut. So the process is lengthened out significantly. What happens with Echo water is within a day you start stimulating anaerobic microflora within

two weeks, can, people with a Glutidary intolerance can be in Glutidary without inflammation. Not always, not 100%, but let's say a majority of the time. And that's huge for people. Cause imagine if you're rehabbing the gut to that level in two weeks, your immune function, your antioxidant pathways, everything else has benefited as well. Your brain function is totally different.

Freddie Kimmel (35:15.449)
Yeah. How much water do people need to drink to have an impact on that scale?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (35:21.738)
If they're getting this bottle, three of these a day. That's it. That's 36 ounces of water. That's plenty.

Freddie Kimmel (35:24.814)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (35:29.033)
And you're holding up the Eco Water Bottle. This is the new one. I got the same one. Echo Flask. How many ounces is this? 12. And if I push the button on the side of my bottle, this is my favorite piece. Social media goes nuts when I post this bottle. They're like, that's so cool. So I got a little meter here on the side. We'll cut B-roll in here to show it. But it's counting down. There's little bubbles happening up here.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (35:33.479)
The echo flask, yeah.

12.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (35:45.986)
Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sure.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (35:58.209)
Yep.

Freddie Kimmel (35:58.637)
It's making a subtle little noise, I can kinda hear it in the silence.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (36:01.966)
That's just the pressure relief in the lid.

Freddie Kimmel (36:04.485)
So can I tell you a really funny story? was at a restaurant one time and I did not seal my lid all the way and mid, have you had, oh my, it hit the ceiling hard and a high 20 foot high ceiling. It hit it. Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (36:09.783)
After all.

yeah. So 60.

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I tell you right now, this, we tested up to 200 PSI, but in a 10 minute cycle, we hit 64 PSI. That's why before you open the lid, there's a little dot on top that you push and you can hear, I just released this one. And so that's how it works. And then you would drink it of course, but...

Freddie Kimmel (36:27.493)
Uh-huh.

Freddie Kimmel (36:31.256)
Okay.

Freddie Kimmel (36:40.335)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (36:47.948)
while it's under pressure, you're holding that gas, you know, and it'll slowly over time because in the lid, if you understand inside that lid, you see that little bump right there. That's, that's a patented pressure relief process. And that's the whole entire deal is you, we have to be releasing some pressure. Now I will tell you sometimes if you fill up,

Freddie Kimmel (36:56.751)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (37:16.458)
all the way. Can you see like how I filled up? If you fill it all the way to the top, which some people do, you can end up getting water into that pressure relief part of the lid. And so you won't hear that release. I, what I'm telling you though, is we have studied this, we sent it to an independent laboratory. We sent bottles that were making the noise and we sent bottles that weren't and the hydrogen is the same.

Freddie Kimmel (37:18.425)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (37:28.101)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (37:46.99)
because the lid is still working correctly, even if you don't get that nice. And what happened is water has gotten up in there, but it's still functioning. And eventually it could clear out, but not always. So I always tell people, fill it up just to the bottom of the neck so that you don't get water up in there. But this has been an incredible project. It took us 18 months. We have many patents on, we have many patents on this.

And it took us a long time to engineer this. don't, make this in the Philippines in our own facility. And so it's not a Chinese made product. is made in the Philippines. None of our bottles, you know, this is our third product in this kind of a bottle space. had the Echo Go, the Echo Go Plus. Those were only ever manufactured for us. You can't get them anywhere else. Well, now we manufacture our own and we're making 1100 units a day.

of these.

Freddie Kimmel (38:47.045)
It's a great water bottle. left it on a plane one time and you sometimes you're like, you realize they're like, they're, they're going to pull out of the gate and, somebody from Southwest ran all the way back through the Austin airport, all the way back onto the plane. And he came running out and I was just like, dude, I was like, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I really like, I really like it. And I really, noticed it, especially on travel days, you know, you know how we go sometimes beyond 30 planes in six months. And it just.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (38:49.93)
shoot.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (38:59.779)
Wow.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (39:03.544)
man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (39:12.514)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (39:16.477)
totally gases you so if i push the play button and i get a cycle through what is my what is my parts per million or my parts per billion and a bottle.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (39:25.198)
So you would have six over six parts per million, 6.25, let's say on a 10 minute cycle. So that would be 6,200 PPB parts per billion. It would be 6,200 PPB or 6.2 parts per million. If you run it longer, of course, it'll go up to eight parts per million. Right beneath the timer,

Freddie Kimmel (39:35.608)
Okay.

Freddie Kimmel (39:39.342)
Okay.

Freddie Kimmel (39:43.525)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (39:53.433)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (39:54.19)
Can you see where it says parts per million? Yeah, so that's very accurate. Now, we're not actually testing hydrogen by that. What you're seeing on the screen is a predicted number based on doing hundreds of gas chromatography studies. And it's so close to actual reality that

Freddie Kimmel (40:08.035)
Yeah, you're running the time.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (40:19.884)
We felt very comfortable in putting it after doing so many gas chromatography studies on a bottle over and over and over and over to make sure that it was dialed in we know per second What hydrogen you're producing in this bottle?

Freddie Kimmel (40:35.417)
Yeah, I'm a huge proponent. In fact, we're launching this big biological blueprint course that is 16 different modules, everything from fasting to detox and drainage to genetics, got 20 doctors involved. And it's really the it's it's the effort to educate the public, right? I'm like, I want you guys to understand all the things that go into longevity and health. It's mostly lifestyle. But but in this effort, you know, we talk a lot about water, clean water, pesticides, a huge toolbox.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (40:55.852)
Yeah. Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (41:04.547)
like it's one of the top five and that I can think of that actually saves you money is fasting. I'd be really interested to see a five day water fast and a five day hydrogen water fast. That would be a fascinating study for somebody to run. Tell me what will happen.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (41:11.127)
Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (41:19.406)
Do want me to tell you what will happen?

this is gonna be completely different on the body. Because hydrogen will modulate many of the pathways that food would, but you're not turning on digestion. So we have people that go 21 days water fast with these or Echo Water and they lose like 35 pounds in 21 days.

Freddie Kimmel (41:37.657)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (41:51.648)
And they're like, I don't think I ever needed food again. I never felt hungry. I didn't feel like I need anything. you know, Mindy Pell's fast, like a girl, amazing books, dear friend of mine. She drinks that the water, she promotes like a water. She said it changed her life for fasting. She had a very difficult time doing water fast before. And once using Echo water, changed her fasting completely. you know, ed group.

Freddie Kimmel (41:54.649)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (42:00.953)
Yes.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (42:19.886)
Ed group started doing water fasting with our water 10 years ago, 12 years ago. Now, a lot of people use our water for water fasting because water fasting, which I love is tough, but I've only ever done it with Echo water. So I was like, what's so difficult about water fasting? And people were like, no, when I did it with Echo water, it changed it for me. It's so much easier.

I get all the benefits, but I'm not hungry. My system is working because imagine all your mitochondrial function is still working. Your brain is still working and in tight, you know, everything is still working. Your nervous system, your blood, everything is great. And guess what? You're healing your gut rapidly because that's all that's in there. It's all that's in there. So you have the right electrical potential.

Freddie Kimmel (43:13.285)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (43:17.196)
You're literally healing the gut rapidly and losing fat. You're dumping fat. You know, if you really look back at the indigenous people, when they would break a bone, they would do a water fast and their body would heal itself. And you would think that's what the heck? Like how would your body heal a bone with no food? Guess what? They healed fast.

Freddie Kimmel (43:31.461)
Mm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (43:45.408)
And so I think when your body puts all its resources towards fixing itself, my gosh, it can happen fast.

Freddie Kimmel (43:52.803)
Yeah, it always reminds me of the energy that goes into digestion. Of course, all you know, we could we could also talk about you like the general practice of how we eat in the United States. That's a different podcast. It's highly, highly flawed. In our signal RNA signal. It's like, am I hungry? Or am I just am I trying to deal with how it was just shut down by my boss? And I'm just going to suppress those feelings. You know why? And that's for me, the other thing that's fascinating is when we do not have food to

Dr. Paul Barattiero (44:04.973)
Yes.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (44:09.976)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (44:15.438)
Right.

Freddie Kimmel (44:22.661)
calm that emotional tide that is rising, what comes up. That's always been the really interesting thing about when we take that away, that staple that's just always there as a creature of comfort.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (44:35.404)
Yeah, yeah, agreed. So tomorrow I'll be 53.

Freddie Kimmel (44:40.218)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (44:41.964)
And people say, well, how many aches and pains and issues? have none. I have never had a disease. I have no issues. I don't wake up in the morning in pain. I do whatever the heck I want. I stay up as late, go to bed, whatever, eat what I want, do what I want. And I never have any issues. And I would say it's because of hydrogen. I would say it's some genetics as well, because that always plays a role. But I can tell you.

Freddie Kimmel (44:45.679)
None.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (45:12.012)
that many other people that have started drinking Echo water, they start going, now I understand. I've been drinking it for five years and I don't have issues either. And I don't, it's much different than other people my age. Like I literally the other day was meeting with a guy and he's a few years younger than me, all white hair. But he didn't know my age. was trying to get, he was trying to get a position with one of my companies as a manager in management.

And he said to me, you know, I'm older than you, blah, blah, blah. And I said, really? How old are you? And he told me, and I'm like, that's fine. I'm six years older than you. And he's like, you've aged better than me. And I said, it's Echo water, man. It's it's 20 years of having really, let's be honest. It's 20 years of having a gut that's working the way it's designed to, and I'm not even perfect at anything like

Freddie Kimmel (46:03.854)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (46:10.99)
I don't exercise as much as I should. I don't, I eat ice cream sometimes, right? Like I freaking want ice cream. I eat ice cream. What do I care? I, I, you know, I'm just living life, loving life. And I don't even, when I travel, I can't always get organic or farm to table. So I have to suck it up and eat whatever's in a restaurant that I'm going to with a team of people or whatever here at home, probably 85%, 90 % of my diet is organic.

Freddie Kimmel (46:16.783)
Hahaha.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (46:40.386)
You know, non-GMO and so that's fine. But when I'm out and about, no way. I don't, I don't have that luxury, but I can tell you, I am grateful for good health because it's never a consideration what I'm going to do, how I feel. It's like, I'm always ready to go. Let's do it.

Freddie Kimmel (47:00.707)
Yeah. Wow. You know, that's, that's your, you're probably in the, you know, one to 5 % in the United States. It's just not the norm. A lot of people's lifestyle or what we do, we go dancing or we go eat out a lot. mean, listen, that's been my reality. There's so many things that are influenced by how I feel or what my pain level is. It's just, you know, part of having a lot of surgeries and going through cancer and Lyme disease and hell that shit for 25 years. It's just part of the reality. I want to,

Dr. Paul Barattiero (47:09.378)
Yeah. Right.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (47:26.488)
Yes. Right.

Freddie Kimmel (47:30.723)
I want to talk about different ways to get hydrogen in the body. We talked a little bit about water. Why would someone go with a hydrogen bath? Why would someone nebulize hydrogen?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (47:45.1)
This is a great question because we, as a company, we're the original. Someone told me the other day, you know, when Gary Brekka talked about your products, he shouldn't have said hydrogen water 50 million times. He should have said Echo water because you were the original company. You started all this. Everyone thought you were crazy. And then they thought you were brilliant. But now there's, you know, hundreds of companies selling trash on the market that say it's hydrogen. And people are confused because.

When he went on Joe Rogan and talked about echo water and he did mention echo water, but he said hydrogen water 50 times that gave credence to any product you put on the market that says it's hydrogen. And that's the real issue because Freddy 99 % of the products on the market promoted as hydrogen are scam products. They don't actually produce hydrogen. And if it's, if it's the cheap.

Like not like this good bottle if it's the cheap bottles, they're making chlorine in the water And so people are drinking in chlorinated water because they wanted to save $150 on not buying the echo product that that's proven Patented they go buy. Yeah, five-year morning. They go buy a piece of junk off Amazon or Alibaba

Freddie Kimmel (49:04.101)
Warranty. Yep. All of it. Yep.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (49:11.246)
Which they can get our product on Amazon too. They can't get on Alibaba, but they can get on Amazon But next thing, you know, they're buying a good $30 $60 $70 $100 bottle and it's not hydrogen people need to understand echo water is hydrogen water But now you have all these scam knockoff companies selling you hydrogen. That's not hydrogen. So first of all We need to understand if you're buying a device if it does not have I HSA

certification, you're not buying a hydrogen product. So what is IHSA? Shigeota, Dr. Shigeota, who I've met in person, you know, it's the International Hydrogen Standards Association. So he knew, he knew that there would be all these scam products on the market. And so he created a standard and that standard is you have to use distilled water.

And you have to be able to dissolve half a part per million of hydrogen gas. If you can't accomplish that, then you're not a true hydrogen product. And guess what? 99 % of the products in the market can't accomplish that. We're the only company, we're the first company in the world to ever have IHSA certification. And every single product we have, know, Echo Water products all has IHSA certification. And there's only

a few other companies that have bottles, but there's no other company that has a machine. And so what people need to understand is they need to be careful. They need to understand that this is the reality. Do a little bit of research. Don't get snookered into buying products that are scam products. You know, that that's what I'm really trying to have people understand and inhalation or bath.

I just did a webinar yesterday on bath. Give me one second. Can we pause for one second? You wanna ask about the inhalation bath in it or just answer.

Freddie Kimmel (51:12.549)
100 % yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (51:18.957)
Yeah, you said you had just done a hydrogen webinar yesterday about the bath.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (51:23.82)
Yeah, so just yesterday I did a whole webinar on the benefits of bathing. In hydrogen water, so we make a product called the echo revive that is a bath unit. It does not. Take. Lime or calcium or any other additive to go into it. All you're doing is putting distilled water into the device and it will.

create hydrogen water into a bath. So this unit will pull water from the bath, process it, and then push water back into the bathtub at two parts per million of hydrogen gas. And roughly you're going to have 1.3 to 1.5 parts per million in the water. But it's like milk going in. You have that clear water and then it's like milk going in. You can see that. So what are the benefits of that?

First and foremost, aesthetics, collagen. So hydrogen, when it absorbs in your skin, will increase the quality of your skin, the tone of your skin, collagen for wrinkles and other things that it's doing. So also for psoriasis, eczema, all these kind of issues, there are many, many studies that have been done on individuals with psoriasis, eczema.

that it's gone within three to eight weeks when you're bathing daily in a hydrogen bath, it is fixing the skin issues. Now, interestingly enough, I also reviewed a study on fat loss. And I don't say weight loss, I say fat loss, because these individuals change nothing about their diet and change nothing about their exercise.

Freddie Kimmel (53:10.041)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (53:20.418)
But doing a hydrogen bath every day for four weeks, eight weeks, they reduced their fat in the body without doing anything else. And so what's really interesting about that is just bathing can slim you down, which that's probably the easiest diet you could ever have drinking Echo water because of the hydrogen gas.

It is the same as a calorie restriction diet. Well, somehow bathing with hydrogen water activates fat burning. And it's very interesting. I get that for ice baths, cause I have an ice bath in my home and I enjoy it. And you can get brown fat gone, right? When you're warming your core up. But this is like a bath, which is hot. And so it's very interesting as the body absorbs the hydrogen through the skin.

Freddie Kimmel (54:08.474)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (54:19.49)
There is tremendous benefits, cholesterol reduction, skin improvements. And again, we just need to understand it's another pathway for hydrogen getting the water into, from the water to the body. And so you're going to have hydrogen in your body. I still think you get the most benefits by drinking water with hydrogen, because that's going to help your gut rapidly. It's going to help your brain. But if you, if you can afford,

The Hydro, let me tell you, it's the most luxurious bath you'll have. so tremendous health benefits. Now inhalation, breathing in hydrogen will help with lung specific issues. It will get hydrogen into the blood. There's 11 studies on long COVID having to do with hydrogen inhalation. And again, inhalation is going to get hydrogen into the body. So it's going to do

what it's going to do. But what I talked about the neurologic benefits, I would say drinking would be more effective because ghrelin is the mechanism and ghrelin is only produced in the stomach or the gut. And so drinking the water would be faster response in the body to get ghrelin up to the brain. And so you could have a multi approach, but

I would say the thing that mimics nature the most would be first and foremost drinking the water because it's going to get that down into the intestinal tract, which is where you should be producing hydrogen. And the next thing that's closest to nature is what a bath, because for 8,000 years we've been bathing in hot baths all across this world.

Freddie Kimmel (55:53.858)
Mm-hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (56:06.883)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (56:08.494)
1000 BC is when Rome and Greeks started doing baths for medicinal purposes.

And guess what they're finding in all these springs, these hot springs in Japan, Europe, US hydrogen gas. In these hot springs, they have already documented high altitude mountain streams like Mount Fuji in Japan, 0.3 parts per million of hydrogen gas in that spring water. And so you go to Germany,

Freddie Kimmel (56:27.461)
Hmm.

Freddie Kimmel (56:36.004)
Yes.

Freddie Kimmel (56:42.127)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (56:48.756)
And people, 2 million people a year go into the mountain to get water and to be in there. And again, you've got 0.3 parts per million of hydrogen gas in that naturally occurring water. So when we talk about hot baths, when we talk about naturally occurring springs, not all of them have hydrogen, but interestingly, the ones that have the most

Historic relevance of people coming to them millions of people a year are the ones that have h2 gas and them that's been documented So it's very interesting to me

Freddie Kimmel (57:22.137)
Yeah. Do you, are you using hydrogen bath when you do your bath at home?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (57:28.672)
I don't take many baths, but I'm good. Well, I'm a shower dude. My, I you, my wife has, does the baths with our echo revive unit. And after doing that webinar, I'm just being transparent after doing the webinars, I'm going to start doing some baths. Now I have a jacuzzi tub at my house. I have a steam room. have a sauna room. I have an ice bath. So I have.

Freddie Kimmel (57:31.077)
You're either a bath person or you're not.

Freddie Kimmel (57:45.519)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (57:55.646)
Definitely do hot baths because I get in the jacuzzi tub with my wife and outside We're looking across the valley and the mountains and stuff So I definitely do that so I do get that and then I love the steam room that I have I have a steam room I love to Exercise I have a basketball court so I can do basketball workout go in the steam room I like all that kind of stuff, and I think it's really important if we understand hormesis

putting the body under a little bit of stress is wonderful. And you can do that with ice bath, you can do that with hot baths, you can do that with a steam room at 115 degrees like I do. And not everybody likes 115 degrees in the steam room, but I like it. And it's tough, you gotta be able to handle that. So you don't have to go 115 to have a benefit, but to me it's great and I like it.

So I have all these things in my home. I have like a whole wellness facility. I have a red light bed, of course. I have the ice bath. have everything to work out and I've got massage chairs, and I love massages in general. So I kind of have, I guess a pretty healthy lifestyle, right?

Freddie Kimmel (59:07.141)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (59:09.686)
Yeah, I think all those things are good. Some people are scared to death of ice baths. was my first time getting in one, you know, was in Mexico at an all inclusive and I just did it in the spa area and I'm like, okay, this is so bad. And now I have one in my home and I use it weekly and love it. And so it doesn't bother me as much though. I can get in for six minutes. No problem.

Freddie Kimmel (59:21.199)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (59:37.838)
Um, and then I get out and I do not get in a sauna or a steam room. I let my body warm up naturally because that's where your core is going to warm up and you're going to get that brown fat activation. Um, yeah. So I like all these things. I think they're all beneficial. Um, yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (59:50.031)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (59:57.989)
I love it. I'm always fascinated by where people get it in. That's a huge concept on this platform is hormesis. It's like how we're using that edge where you're feeling a little bit uncomfortable as the razor of growth, if you will. So we've got the last question I want to ask about the inhalation. I do have people come in specifically around neurocognitive,

neurodegenerative, Alzheimer's, and there must be an article, there must be studies out there that are pointing people to hydrogen because they're often asking like, what system do I buy to support, you know, my, my wife's or my, my partner's cognitive journey as they're starting to get, you know, into the later years of life, they're starting to lose their memory a little bit. It sounds to me like we just have to really focus on good quality hydrogen water.

Are there studies, are there benefits that would indicate nebulizing or breathing hydrogen above and beyond drinking?

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:01:05.402)
There are a lot of studies, especially out of China, because China went hard on inhalation. Here's my thoughts on inhalation. I like inhalation, I don't have a problem. It's been 15 years. The first inhalation unit I ever did, Tyler LeBaron. Do know who Tyler LeBaron is? So Tyler LeBaron and I have been friends for 15 years at least. And in 2015, we went over to the first hydrogen symposium in Japan. We went together.

Freddie Kimmel (01:01:22.053)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:01:35.262)
And we spent four weeks traveling together to Japan, Korea, New Zealand, Australia. And we even popped through Fiji on our way back to LAX. But he was the first person to ever give me an inhalation unit to try with my wife. She did not feel as much benefit with that as she did with water or other things. So she loves the bath. She loves the water, of course.

We even have a hydrogen prebiotic drink that is amazing. Three prebiotics with hydrogen and it's clean. Unlike a lot of the tablet products out there that have contaminants in them and that doesn't, and the tablets don't taste as good. We have a fresh crisp apple flavor that people love and you've got three prebiotics to help your gut reestablish even faster. So she likes all those things, but inhalation hasn't been something

Freddie Kimmel (01:02:26.618)
Mmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:02:32.204)
that she felt a huge thing with, but there are plenty of studies from China on inhalation. Most all of the COVID long COVID studies were all inhalation. So I would say if you have a lung issue, inhalation is going to be very good. The things that I like about inhalation is there are studies that show it's beneficial. It's another pathway to get hydrogen in the body.

Freddie Kimmel (01:02:36.645)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:03:01.826)
What I don't like about inhalation is you got to sit there for 45 minutes to an hour and breathe. Now that would be good for a lot of people to do actually, but most people don't have that time or don't want to make that time unless you're sitting watching a show or something at night. What's really nice is you can basically drink water and get a treatment.

Freddie Kimmel (01:03:20.249)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:03:30.188)
while you're driving around, while you're on your busy lifestyle, and you're going to have all those effects. With inhalation, you literally have to sit down for 45 minutes to an hour to get a quote unquote treatment. And so we have an amazing inhalation unit, the Echo Refresh, and it literally, it's incredible. All you add is water to it. You don't have to do anything else. It's the best of the best in the industry, but

You and you can if you have a clinic you can run two people at a time because of the amount that we're producing You literally run two people at the same time or one person that's just getting you know a ton of hydrogen But I would say there's no issue with inhalation. I wouldn't say the benefits are As good as drinking echo water Definitely But let me tell you something

Freddie Kimmel (01:04:03.78)
Mmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:04:28.118)
if you can afford to get all of it, like Ronaldo, who has all of our products, then get it. But not everybody can. And I would say if you're just fresh to this, if you're just like, I'm on the fence, I've been hearing about this stuff and you're right, a lot of these companies seem like scams. Here's the deal. If you see me in a video and it's not an Echo product, it's a scam company automatically. Don't even give them a penny because they're dirtbags.

I can't tell you how many companies use my videos and I don't endorse anything but Echo because that is the only true hydrogen water company period. Everything else is knockoffs and scam and overpriced stuff that doesn't work. So keep in mind if you are skeptical, which you should be, that is a healthy thing to be right. Start here, start here, get a bottle, try it.

Freddie Kimmel (01:05:02.937)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:05:26.324)
Enjoy it. See how it helps you. These are inexpensive. And then when you fall in love with it and you're a water snob, like we create all the time and you only want to echo water, then you can get, we have a pitcher that's 57 ounces instead of 12. So, you know, four times this, we have machines, we have whole house filtration, we have everything for you, but this is for travel and skeptical people.

That's what this is for. And so it's a great place to start. People ask me all the time, but wait, the tablets are only a dollar per use, right? Well, that's what you need to hear a dollar every day. That's 365 days a year. You'll pay less than that for this and you'll have it for five and a half years. So this is one fifth the cost and heaven forbid you want to give Echo water to your family. If you do that with tablets, which we don't make tablets on purpose, but

You're going to quadruple your cost if you have a family of four. If you buy a device that's making water with hydrogen gas in it, you're not increasing your cost. You have a captive product. So, you know, I'm not downing the tablets. I know Alex Tarnova who makes the tablets and he, you know, I know him and it's, it is a legitimate way to get hydrogen water. That's for sure. But is the most expensive.

Freddie Kimmel (01:06:28.591)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:06:53.708)
And it's not the cleanest. It's absolutely not the cleanest. We've had this tested so many times with third party laboratories. There's nothing going in the water, but hydrogen. There's no metals. There's no contaminants. You can't say that about tablets. And so I'm just trying to have people get healthy, accomplish their divine potential and have no negative fall.

Freddie Kimmel (01:07:07.087)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (01:07:15.779)
Yeah, I I love it. love and it makes a lot of sense to me all the co factors that happen with a healthy gut. We don't even understand them all yet. So I love that that's your response. I love that I don't have to go by that, you know, the bathtub machine and the inhalation machine and I can just do it with water. It's really, really refreshing to hear. Paul will definitely do this again, because I think there's, you know, we just scratched the surface on hydrogen. Let me do this. Let me do your your two closeout questions.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:07:28.236)
Right. Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (01:07:44.875)
What's one of your favorite studies that you love about hydrogen? You're like, guys, if there's one thing you should know this one, it's just profound.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:07:55.086)
It was a study on overall health and it showed the fact that it caused people to age backwards. So it actually increased. showed by biomarkers that it increased longevity. changed telomeres. It changed blood pressure. It changed the LDL levels, about 16.2%. Some are 15, some are 16, but it, they charted brain.

heart, gut. In other words, it was an entire systemic approach to show that it really improved the human being. So those are my favorite. The ones that are the most fun is the sexual drive in mice. Another one that was fun was coffee versus hydrogen water for sleep deprived individuals. And they took

A bunch of people, 24 hour sleep deprivation, gave part of the group coffee, part of the group, hydrogen water, hydrogen water increased the energy 10 % more than the coffee did. But the coffee had a steep decline in 20 minutes after they drank the coffee. Whereas the hydrogen water did not have a decline in energy in 20 minutes. So those are fun studies because

You know, it's actual real use. Like people are tired and it's like, what can I do to have it pick me up? That's not coffee. and, guess what? Hydrogen water do it. I have a lot of people that are like, I don't have a need to drink coffee in the morning anymore. I wake up, I drink, you know, 12 ounces of the flask and I'm done. And the thing that you can do with this is you can, there's an app that controls this. So you can change the lights that come inside 14 different colors. You can choose.

Freddie Kimmel (01:09:29.583)
Yeah.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:09:52.374)
Yeah. And, you can set up a schedule daily where you have this run on its own three times, five times a day, whatever you want to do to where you can set it up to where it's, it's running. And so maybe you wake up at eight in the morning and so you tell this to run at seven 50. So you wake up, it's ready to go for you. You don't even have to wait the 10 minutes. Those kinds of things are great little hacks that you can do that, that can change your life and just bring efficiency into your life.

But those are fun. The part that's near and dear to my heart, you asked about the studies, the studies on diabetes, because I spent many years in the diabetes space and I was trying to prevent people from having ulcers and amputations. And after 15 years, there was a 65 % reduction in

amputations in the United States of America by having proper shoes.

Freddie Kimmel (01:10:52.431)
Wow.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:10:54.304)
And so I owned two different shoe companies that we manufactured shoes for people with diabetes so they wouldn't have amputations. But when I learned about hydrogen way back...

that it can actually normalize blood glucose levels in a matter of days or weeks. That was like the Holy grail for me because I'm like, it's one thing to help someone not have their toes and feet cut off. It's another thing to normalize blood glucose levels and effectively get rid of diabetes. That to me is the best possible thing because, and I say that there are millions and millions and millions of people every day walking around that are pre-diabetic.

that do not know they're pre-diabetic and they are doing micro and macular vascular damage in their body and they have no idea they're damaging eyes, they're damaging venous system, they're damaging their entire system and they have no idea because they're just walking around eating and doing. And so hydrogen water, particularly Echo water can actually...

show normal glucose levels in a matter of days. And you have 77 studies. If you want to read some of those studies, go to hydrogenstudies.com. That's a site that I own. It is a public service. It's there for you to go and type in nitric oxide, type in peptides, type in whatever you want, cancer, Parkinson's, whatever you want to learn about, whatever organ in the body you want to learn about, go and type it in.

And all the studies that relate to hydrogen will come up, but you have 77 studies on diabetes, 127 on cancer, all these kinds of things. and, that would be my next biggest one with cancer because people are so fearful of getting cancer. It it's, it's not a death sentence and people need to understand that we're always having cancer cells. You and I both have cancer cells in our body at all times. It's your immune function.

Freddie Kimmel (01:13:01.157)
That's right.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:13:03.534)
that will deal with them properly. But what people need to understand is without your gut being intact, your body can't fight. So you need to fix your gut and an Echo water is the fastest way to fix your gut in my opinion. And what I would say is that out of these 127 studies, the most important takeaway is hydrogen benefits apoptosis. So the reason why

cancer cells are duplicating in the body is because apoptosis is turned off. Normally when our cells divide incorrectly, apoptosis would cause them to destroy themselves. But somehow when a normal cell becomes a cancer cell, apoptosis is turned off and so those cells can divide and become more and more cancer cells. There are 127 studies showing that hydrogen water is very anti-cancer, okay, hydrogen gas.

is anti-cancer. So if you're fearful and because of what I said earlier that hydrogen is not an electron donor, you can use hydrogen water while taking chemotherapy. If you choose to take chemotherapy, you can use it. There's no negative. In fact, in one of the main studies that I share with colon cancer, when you used hydrogen water with colon,

Freddie Kimmel (01:14:13.54)
and

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:14:27.788)
with the five-fluorosil, which is for colon cancer, there was 100 % cancer cell death in the body. So the combination of hydrogen water and a chemotherapy drug, it was 100 % cancer cell death. So that to me is a good study. And they tested naturally occurring hydrogen water from Mount Fuji in Japan. They tested high-content hydrogen water like Echo Water.

Freddie Kimmel (01:14:46.117)
Hmm

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:14:53.344)
And they said, yes, high content hydrogen water had stronger anti-cancer activity than did naturally occurring hydrogen water. And by itself, it had a stronger anti-cancer activity than did the five, the chemotherapy drug. But then when you combine them, you got a hundred percent cancer showed up. That to me is a good study. Like they really went into this entire looking at naturally occurring hydrogen water, know, high content hydrogen water, chemotherapy with and without. And so.

I hope that answers your question, but I love those studies because that's where fear, mean, we got a of study, ton of studies on athletes and recovery time, but no one's scared to death of that, but they are scared of cancer.

Freddie Kimmel (01:15:32.515)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (01:15:38.801)
100%. It's topical. in the news. We talk about this a lot on the show. We know where the rates are going, specifically in young adults, specifically in young women. again, it's a great reminder for me. I drink hydrogen water every day. I don't drink three. Probably I do a hefty one. So I'm actually excited to be a little more diligent about my three to four bottles of using the Echo and just track

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:16:03.511)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (01:16:07.353)
how everything's going. Three to six, all right.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:16:07.95)
Three, three to six.

If you really want to really start tracking your biomarkers, start tracking your use digital devices. So this is how the 49ers started using our water just a month ago. The top eight players got all got these because the Elliott, the human performance guy for the 49ers ended up getting one of our flasks. And he called, he, he called me and said, my gosh, what the heck is going on?

Freddie Kimmel (01:16:13.891)
Alright.

Freddie Kimmel (01:16:18.979)
I do, yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (01:16:41.199)
Mmm.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:16:41.578)
All of my, all of my digital devices are telling me my sleep is better. My recovery times are down 80%. My, my muscles are functioning better. Like everything is telling me I'm doing better and I can tell he's like, what the heck is this all about? And the next thing you know, the 49ers and every, know, so it's, it's pretty cool. The Raiders, the Dodgers all use our water. So every one of the Dodgers have our system. And so understand that these teams are doing well.

Freddie Kimmel (01:17:01.413)
Amazing.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:17:09.782)
You have a lot of athletes that are doing well, but the fear is with the disease models. And so that's why I want to try and help people not have fear because fear will increase cancer. And so I want them to have some hope and understand that hydrogen is anti-cancer. It's been proven now for 10 years, there's been studies done. So thank you for having me, brother.

Freddie Kimmel (01:17:28.483)
Yeah, amazing. Anytime. And as everybody knows, we have a code. You can use Beautifully Broken. You can get a discount on all the products on the EcoSight. And I'm really excited to, again, put myself to the test of the three to six. I track everything, so we'll swing around. We'll do another one in the future. Paul, thank you so much. Big love.

Dr. Paul Barattiero (01:17:47.182)
There you go. There you go. Boom.