The Hydrogen Frontier: Brown’s Gas, Electron-Rich Water & the Future of Healing

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel (00:01.181)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the beautifully broken podcast. am so excited to welcome back to the show, George Weissman. Good morning, sir.

George Wiseman (00:12.302)
Good morning, and it's very, very good to be back here. I really enjoy this platform. And the name of it, it just gets me every single time, beautifully broken. It's like God's gift to us. We're not perfect.

Freddie Kimmel (00:18.441)
Thank you.

Freddie Kimmel (00:23.774)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (00:29.981)
That's right. That's right. You know, and I find is, is the show has gone on and we're, you know, in February, we're year seven and to ask every guest, like, what does it mean to you to be beautifully broken and hear all these different, beautiful answers? It, it, the pain I find comes from wanting life to be something other than it is that this experience that we're given and as co-creators of our own reality, it's very painful.

There is hardship, there is loss, there's grief, but it's how we manage that. And we do that with our best aptitude and our best abilities. That's when the beauty comes, when we navigate it with grace. It's so interesting to me. it just keeps coming. A lot of the conversation and the marketing, which I hate in our space, I hate the marketing. I hate miracle language around any of it because

You know, I'm sure you've heard this, right? It's like people must come to you, which we're going to talk about Brown's gas and hydrogen and molecular hydrogen, electrically, electronically expanded water that they want to, they want to like remove the thing that they're suffering from. And they, want it to be just a device. Sometimes we want it to be like, this is going to be it for me. Right. And it's just a tool in that, in that toolbox. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that, George.

George Wiseman (01:59.042)
That is well said. Obviously you've been doing this a long time. Yes, there is no panacea. There's no one size fits all. I do see that the people that are searching find me one way or another, or they're looking for answers and we provide one of the possible answers kind of thing. And I do want to help everyone. do want to hydrogen

Preferably browns in every home in the world. It would be my Goal at this particular time and I'm an alternative energy researcher I also have my my dream is to put free energy in every home, but God has Directed me on this particular path and I can I have a whole story about that as well my Jonah's story, but the the point is we are really helping people find answers and

And this is one, one answer. It's not the answer, although in some particular cases, and there's a particular video online about this young woman in her 20s who developed cancer. I'm just giving an example. And she was looking for an answer. Her fiance lives in Australia and she lived in California. So two continents apart.

Freddie Kimmel (03:16.169)
Mm-hmm.

George Wiseman (03:27.006)
in their particular situation. Her fiance's father rented an aqua cure from an Australian affiliate that I have down there. And in fact, he didn't have any for rent. He actually rented out his own personal machine because the father was begging for it, pleading for it, maybe a better word. And Dave is very compassionate. In any case, they put this young woman on the brown scass to back up a step.

She had one of the worst cancers, most malignant in the world. She had been at that point given about two weeks to live. And of course she's very spiritual and she was praying for an answer and her father-in-law got this particular machine to her. She just jumped right on it, did like I'm doing here, just full bore, sleeping with it. So getting at least eight hours a day on it. And she changed her entire life.

Freddie Kimmel (04:22.194)
Hmm.

George Wiseman (04:24.696)
So it wasn't just the Brown's gas. She gives Brown's gas a lot of credit, but she changed everything, got all toxins out of her body, like a lot of detox, a lot of doing things naturally and stuff. By the way, it had started as breast cancer and it metastasized right through to her spine. So her spine was actually growing cancer bone and they wanted to do a major surgery which would have left her like being a quadripeat.

Freddie Kimmel (04:50.175)
Mm.

George Wiseman (04:54.552)
quadriplegic. So she accepted a minor surgery and that was it as far as oncology was concerned. No chemo, no radiation, no aggressive surgery, anything. She went 100 % natural and with the Brown's gas. So long story short, if you watch the video, it's very inspirational. She's an amazing woman.

One year later, she's crying. She has in the video where she's doing what she calls ugly crying because she's waving the papers as she's being driven away from the hospital. 100 % cancer free. Absolutely amazing. But as you pointed out, this is just one tool and it isn't necessarily the tool or combination put in a combination that a particular person needs. You have to go with your heart. You have to make your best choices and

Freddie Kimmel (05:32.561)
Amazing. Amazing.

George Wiseman (05:50.095)
And we've been helping a lot of people and it does generally help people even if it isn't the answer for whatever particular ailment that the person is looking for, it usually helps. There's over 2000 scientific studies now. They find virtually no negative side effects to the hydrogen and almost 100 % positive. In fact, every time they tested for a new ailment, it does help that ailment.

Freddie Kimmel (06:03.411)
That's right.

George Wiseman (06:20.418)
But then the side effects, it helps a whole bunch of other things around the body as well. It's pretty amazing. So yes, you make a good point. There is no one size fits all. This isn't what we're saying. And to support that, we have a one year satisfaction guarantee. Nobody else does that. Where you get your money back if it isn't doing what you expect, if you aren't getting what you think your money's worth.

Freddie Kimmel (06:28.329)
amazing.

George Wiseman (06:49.646)
or you don't like the paint color. whatever. It doesn't, doesn't matter. No questions asked, uh, because we want every machine out there to be working for someone. If you're not using it, we'd rather get it back, give you your money back and get it out to somebody else who can.

Freddie Kimmel (06:51.581)
Yeah, the paint color is the best.

Freddie Kimmel (07:04.031)
Man, amazing. That really, I mean, that ethos, it makes my heart open when I hear that, that people get a one-year guarantee. George, I'm gonna point people back to episode 142, which we recorded shockingly November 21st, 2022. I cannot believe that. It feels like we talked six months ago, eight months ago. It's really wild how time unfolds so quickly.

George Wiseman (07:28.406)
It does.

Freddie Kimmel (07:33.481)
But go back and listen to, I want people to listen to your story. I want people to hear the origin story of Brown's gas. But for these people who have not heard episode one, and we're just jumping in, you know, what is the aqua cure and what is the, let's just say, let's do a different definition around Brown's gas to start.

George Wiseman (07:54.445)
Yes. Okay. A lot of people are hearing because I'm going to say it's now being a fad about hydrogen for health. And it's getting out there. I rode the beginning of the wave of it. If you listen to the origin story, you'll understand how my customers convinced me to be using Brown's gas for health and on like that. the

Freddie Kimmel (08:03.071)
That's right. It is very big right now.

George Wiseman (08:21.698)
people are going to realize there's a lot of different ways. In fact, I even have, there's nine different modalities that I know to get hydrogen into a person's body besides the normal one. And so we, we're looking at hydrogen. Brown's gas is what I call the next generation of hydrogen for health, because it not only has the hydrogen, all the hydrogen you therapeutically need. And that's what a lot of people out there are saying. A little is more, I'm sorry, if a little is good, more is better. That is not true.

There's several reasons why and we can come back to that later if necessary. But the therapeutic volume of hydrogen needs to be met and after that the rest is just a waste and could even be dangerous. So getting up to what Brown's gas is, back in 19... Well, in the early 90s, I was building electrolyzers that were over efficient, Faraday equation efficient. In other words, for a certain amount of amperage in an electrolyzer that's splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen, you should get a certain amount of gas.

Freddie Kimmel (08:54.078)
Yes.

George Wiseman (09:19.054)
And that has been known for hundreds of years. But I was getting more gas than that. Significantly more gas than that. Couldn't be like a mathematical error or experimental error. And I was very careful with my experiments because I was experimenting to find the most efficient way to split water. Well, it turns out I not only found so far the most efficient way to split water in normal electrolysis, but I discovered in 1996,

that I was generating a third gas beyond oxygen and hydrogen, there was this electrically expanded water. And that was, so you get hydrogen off the cathode and oxygen off the anode and in between right in the middle, and I have pictures on the websites and stuff so people can see this, a line of gas solid enough to almost be like a plate, like an electrode coming right out of the middle of the fluid. And that was the extra gas. So I was still,

Faraday laws weren't broken. It turns out that that gas is still water, H2O. It's not separated into hydrogen and oxygen. So it's not part of the Faraday equations, but even though it's coming out as an extra volume of gas. Well, all that was interesting, but it turns out that that electrically expanded water was what was giving Brown's gas more effect than just pure hydrogen. Back in the days when I was selling fuel savers and also building what I call water torches where they were

we were using a Brown's gas to replace the settling in oxy acetylene torches. And it could do everything. Acetylene could do better and at 2 % of the cost. So it was, it was pretty incredible. Now on the flip side, oxy acetylene outfit is like 150 or $250. And these machines were like a few thousand dollars. So, you know, you had to be using a lot of gas to justify getting it.

Build your own I have books out there like Brown's gas book 2 where people can literally build their own large volume For less than a thousand bucks they can build an experimental version of the Brown's gas machine. Okay, so Brown's gas is Has six different constituents it has it does have monatomic oxygen and monotopic hydrogen But only a little bit in my Brown's gas book 2 book 1 I theorized it had quite a lot to justify this extra gas

George Wiseman (11:40.771)
But it isn't so. If we do a spectrographic analysis, we do see that there's a tiny little bit of monatomic hydrogen and oxygen, which shouldn't exist, but it does. Then the major portion of the gas is H2, or pure diatomic hydrogen. And then there's the O2, which is the diatomic oxygen, which is the normal gases that you would see in electrolysis. And then you have water as water vapor. Anytime you have water in a glass or anything, there's some water vapor hanging around.

So you've got that water vapor coming off the exuding off the gases with the gases as well. But then you have a different form of water. And this is what we call the electrically expanded water. It's water that has soaked up electrons in the electrolysis process until it energized enough to become a gaseous form of water that is not water vapor or steam. This is plasma, a cold plasma form of water. It's a negatively charged because of the extra electrons

cold plasma form of water. So I'm inhaling all six of those gases now with the Brown's gas. Now what the electrically expanded water, it really helped when you're the combusting of fuel as a fuel saver because it increased the energetic value catalyst and all of that. It increased the efficiency of combustion. And when you're using it in a torch, that extra electrons helped oxidize the steel even better.

faster, cleaner, like a laser, incredible. So in the body, those electrons are bioavailable and do a thousand different things. But one thing it does, mainly it helps stop inflammation. It stops oxidative cascade, which is where if your body doesn't have enough electrons, then some molecule may grab an electron from something else.

But then that thing doesn't have enough electrons. And so it grabs an electron from something else. So they call that oxidative cascade. And it helps the body heal any oxidative damage. We need oxygen to live. Like, a few minutes without oxygen, we're dead. But it's an oxidizer. It literally is burning. And if the burn isn't controlled in your body, then you get damage. So you'd...

George Wiseman (14:02.926)
Your body knows how to control the oxygen, but it does that mainly with the electrons and hydrogen. Well, Brown's gas has all of that. It also gets rid of things like a cytokine storm. So during this last pandemic when they were going to be putting people on ventilators, because, and particularly this is over in China, that Brown's gas was the number one treatment for the pandemic in China. And in two months, they were back in full business. Two years, we were still struggling. Okay.

because we were putting people who had blood oxygen levels down at 70 instead of almost 195 to 100, and theoretically shouldn't have even have been conscious, but they could still, they were still cognitive even though their blood oxygen levels were down at 70, but they were gonna, and they put these people on ventilators and usually within a few days they would die because that particular virus wasn't a lung virus.

which the people, the doctors assumed because the people's oxygen levels were so low. It was a blood virus. What it was doing is kicking the heme or iron or ferritin, whatever you want to call it, out of the red blood cells. And then the red blood cells, even though they were circulating in the body, couldn't grab onto oxygen in the lungs. So as soon as the people started inhaling with the brown scabs, within five minutes, their blood oxygen levels started coming back up because the...

Freddie Kimmel (15:24.083)
Hmm

George Wiseman (15:25.582)
electrons in that they were inhaling, what attached to the iron that was still in the red blood cells increased its efficiency at grabbing oxygen and their oxygen levels would start to come back up. No ventilator needed. Within three days, walking out of the hospital completely, I'm going to say cured, mitigated, you want to say, healed. No longer having the symptoms of the virus. So that's how dramatic it can be. and then

Just if people look at my the things that happened with me and I was expecting none of it when I started inhaling the gas I just simply did it because I wanted to I always experiment myself and on myself before I recommend anything to anyone and My customers were telling me the various things that they were The ones that were experimenting with it Achieving including a guy who had cured a melanoma on his for forehead within three weeks time

And so I started to inhale just to prove it was safe, because I knew it was safe if you inhale at a certain value, which was under 2 % in your intake breath. You want your hydrogen, no matter where your hydrogen's coming from, doesn't matter if it's Brown's gas or one of the other machines that make pure hydrogen, you don't want more than 2 % hydrogen going into your intake breath, because once your body's blood is saturated,

you will be exhaling any excess hydrogen, just like you normally do, which I'll just quickly say, your normal hydrogen comes from your food. You eat hydrocarbons, your digestive system splits the carbon and hydrogen apart, the hydrogen goes into your bloodstream. If there's more hydrogen than your body needs, you exhale it, just like exhaling excess carbon dioxide. So we aren't getting the hydrogen that we need because our digestive systems have been decimated. And there's many reasons why. I'll just leave it at that. I talked about it before.

So we are inhaling the hydrogen in order to get back to health. And I kind of got off my track there because there was several other things that all fit together there. So I'll just simply say, if you don't have enough hydrogen, your body starts to shut down extraneous systems it doesn't immediately need. The first one to go is your regeneration system. So you get scars, your skin just patches instead of actually healing.

George Wiseman (17:54.839)
If you still don't have enough hydrogen, your immune systems start to go because they're not immediately life-threatening. And then if you still don't have enough hydrogen, your organs will start to fail. So when you get enough hydrogen, your organs heal. Like my heart, I had a heart murmur for over 50 years. It's gone. I've been to several examinations now, because my wife has me go at least once a year. And I don't have a heart murmur anymore, but I had it most of my life.

I no longer wear glasses, my eyesight healed and that sort of anyway, my organs healed, including my skin, because not only did my immune systems come back online, I don't get sick. I haven't been sick since 2005 when I started drinking the brown scabs water. And then since 2016, I've been inhaling, but my immune systems came back online. And then after I started to inhale, my skin healed like all the scars on my body.

I usually can try to show people one that is right there. I see it right there. There's a place where my skin bends in about a one half inch square there. That's where I used to have a scar. And scars like on the tip of this finger, you can see it's misshapen. It looks like a bit of a heart there. It's not flat anymore. There was a scar on the front of that finger. I mashed that one with a four pound mallet. It was a...

Freddie Kimmel (18:53.503)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (19:04.829)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (19:19.726)
quite spectacular, but the finger is still misshapen, but no scar. My arthritis is completely gone. have full functionality and strength in all my fingers. Just one little click in this one, and that's in that joint, and that's it, left. So in any case, you want no more than 2 % going in, because once your body has enough hydrogen and you're exhaling, you'll exhale any excess. And if your exhale breath has more than 4%, some people say 4.7, but...

Freddie Kimmel (19:32.819)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (19:48.527)
let's say 4.7 % hydrogen, it's potentially combustible. And you don't want that. There's been several people doing things like smoking while inhaling hydrogen, okay? And they get an explosion. And if it was to go down into the lungs, that would be really bad. So far with these particular people, it would just go in their sinuses and then back into the, and backfire down in the tubes kind of thing.

Freddie Kimmel (20:05.087)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (20:10.066)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (20:18.318)
which that's all designed to handle it. But the point is you get a therapeutic, scientifically with thousands of studies proven 2 % inhalation gives you a therapeutic level and is safe because you're not going to have the combustible coming out. Now, if a person goes to 3 % instead of 2%, let's just say, and work out the math. So you have 3 % coming in. And if you only need 1 %

because your blood is now saturated, you only need 1 % to maintain the saturation. Now you have 2 % coming out. That's 5%, which is over the 4.7 % lower combustible limit of hydrogen and air. Plus you have the hydrogen coming out of this at the same time at 3%. Now you're at 8 % of gas coming out. You are definitely having a combustible mixture there. So this is part of the safety thing. When you're looking for the various options out there,

Freddie Kimmel (21:11.507)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (21:16.11)
Make sure that first you're getting a therapeutic mixture. You're gonna get the 2 % in your inhale breath and there's people that lie about that. There's one particular hydrogen machine out there that makes, I think it's 40 milliliters per minute instead of 120, which gives you the therapeutic value. And he did a really weird thing to prove he's making 120, but he's not making anything close to that. So you get the scams that are too low.

Now they're obviously safe because you'll never get a combustible limit, but you're not getting the therapeutic value either. Whereas our aqua cure has it so that you can adjust the amount of gas coming out to every single body to optimize it for every single body. So down to an infant up to a 300 pound man or person, you can adjust the aqua cure to optimize the amount of gases that you're inhaling.

And the other side is you don't get too much. You don't want to get inhaling. Now, the external applications where you're putting your cupping on a particular spot, that was another thing. My immune systems got rid of all my hand warts. I had hand warts since I was a kid. And they are a virus. And for over 50 years, my body didn't get rid of them. And yet, when I started to inhale in a relatively short time,

They were all gone. It's those scars, warts, all that kind of stuff. So the external applications, you can pretty much have any amount of hydrogen you want. It'll absorb through the skin. One particularly dramatic thing that happens is if people have carpal tunnel syndrome, very, very painful. You put a glove on, one of these long gloves, like it covers a cast or something like that when you're going to go shower, or even a bread bag.

and put the gas in there, then the gas will penetrate right through the skin and take care of the inflammation of the tendon sheath within minutes, 10 to 15 minutes, carpal tunnel's gone. It's fantastic. So I've covered a whole bunch of things, was there any?

Freddie Kimmel (23:27.281)
Yeah. No, I, it's all great, George. I just want to go back and just a couple of things I just want to mention is that we've talked about this before is that it's, we have microbiomes within each body, which is very individual. And I think I would, I would have a working theory. This is why people have different outcomes with some of these devices, because you can be a methane dominant producer within your gut.

which is not great for longevity, it's not great for health, it's horrible for transit time of food. This is usually our really bad constipated individuals. And then we can have this hydrogen, right? Hydrogen, and there is a hydrogen breath test that people will do. And that's one way to determine if we've got a lot of bad bacteria in the gut. If you drink a sugar solution and you're burping all this, they're gonna measure how much hydrogen, how much methane. And so you can have this,

small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, SIBO, which is really reflective of this internal milieu. So there's things that we can do as far as like nutrition, transit time of the gut, minding our stress every single day because we have this natural wave that moves through food throughout the body, right? And so I just want to remind everybody that we do have this internal mechanism and this microbiota that makes hydrogen.

You know, it's, it's, it's, this is part of my design. So what we're doing here with some of these different devices is we're supplementing right where we're deficient. The thing I want to touch on George, you mentioned a couple of times is there's Brown's gas, which has this now, this is kind of new to me conversation, the six different types of gases that we're breathing in. And then we've got just molecular hydrogen. And I think this is where it gets confusing for people. Cause you get online and say, well, I can take hydrogen tablets.

Or I can do the hydrogen water bottles, or now what is this Brown's gas thing? And I want to offer two things here for people. The Brown's gas, from my understanding, is we have the ability to donate electrons, extra electrons. And hydrogen, from my understanding, works without, it's a selective antioxidant without donating electrons. So they're very different.

Freddie Kimmel (25:45.48)
It's almost, from my experience, it's almost hard to compare them. There, I think there's use cases for breathing, really high, high concentrate hydrogen in which there are some really good case studies is even a standalone cancer treatment coming out of Japan that Tyler LeBaron has looked at a little bit. And then there's this other piece of like donating electrons is, is like, that's like your vitamin C. So we're getting a very different therapy. is tough to compare them.

I will tell you before you answer this question, and I just want to go in, what are we talking about here? What's the difference? When I breathe the hydrogen gas, and now when I do the micro bubbler, and three friends have mirrored this exactly, they said, what is the tingling in my hands? I feel energy in my hands and feet. And that's one thing where if I put a bag on, like you said, and I...

sub the cannula in there and I let it fill up with, I'll have this big bag around my arm. If I'm treating a scar or a spot or a sore wrist or something, I feel tingly everywhere. That doesn't happen when I do hydrogen water or I don't feel anything. I feel the tingling and the energy from the Brown's gas specifically. And so what is happening there? How are those things different?

George Wiseman (27:07.438)
Okay, wow, so many different things. And bring me back if I get too far off track. Another thing that the, okay, so first of all, when you are, have an ailment, generally speaking, the body is energy, has used up its energy reserves and its energy generation systems have become compromised, especially with severe ailments. But even,

Freddie Kimmel (27:13.642)
I will.

George Wiseman (27:37.675)
even relatively minor chronic stuff, the body's doing the best it can with what it gets and it's still putting some things aside. And one of the things that I learned or had happened to me with the healing of my skin and stuff is I had neuropathies. I'd literally lost the feeling in the palm of my left hand and in the shins, my shins of both legs from my knees to my feet. Zero feeling total.

total numbness. And when I started to inhale, those nerves healed. I was able to, they regenerated. I have full feeling back in my hand. I was thinking I was going to lose the use of my left hand because it was getting number and number and my legs I was getting so I couldn't feel them. I, and I was worried about that totally healed. So I'm thinking the tingling.

could be directly related to the nerves getting the hydrogen and electrons that they need directly. So one of the things about the hydrogen bubble bath that we're talking about right here, micro bubbles in the water that you're bathing in, is that it's in what I call an exterior application. There's four protocols that are currently out there. There's another couple that are coming, but four that are out there right now. You've got your...

inhalation of the gas, but then you can also apply the gas externally. You've got your drinking of the hydrogen rich water, or you can apply the water externally. Now applying the water externally was the way that several people have gotten rid of melanomas. And also there was one guy who got rid of it in the same amount of time using a shower cap over his head. He had a large area about here on his, it's on the website, I have pictures of a melanoma and he just put the gas in there.

So you've got your external treatments and your internal treatments. When you inhale the gas or drink the water, your body decides where it goes and what gets addressed. And if you apply it externally, like the bag for carpal tunnel, you decide because you're putting it on there and it has to go through that area. Now, of course, one of the first things when you're inhaling that gets treated is your lungs. So people with COPD and various lung ailments and a lot of scar tissue and stuff,

George Wiseman (30:02.178)
that starts to resolve first because the first contact. But once it gets in your bloodstream, the body's deciding where it goes. And that brings me to another really important thing about the electrically expanded water that pure hydrogen cannot do and is vitally important. And that has to do with easy water. Are you familiar with Joe Pollock and easy water?

Freddie Kimmel (30:26.631)
Yeah, we've talked about that quite a bit.

George Wiseman (30:29.12)
Okay, so I call it easy gel and I've talked with him about it. We're acquaintances and I might even say friends. the, because we've done quite a lot of work, including he's had me three times talking at his water conferences. And during the first conference that I talked at, he was in the front row. And after I gave my presentation and Q and A, he stood up and he says, you know, everything, if you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

And that's what we're talking about with this one shot panacea type thing. He says, but I work with this easy gel. He calls it easy water or structured water. But I call it easy gel just for definition because it's a gel, it's not water. It's H3O2 negative. It's not H2O, it's H3O2. You don't call H2O2, which is hydrogen peroxide water. So this isn't water and it's in a gel form. So I call it easy gel.

And it should have been that from the start, but things get misnamed and then it just carries on. Okay. So the EZ gel, he says, what does the Brown's gas do to the EZ layer of when water touches a hydrophilic surface, it automatically and spontaneously forms this EZ gel. And he says, if you have Brown's gas, what happens? Well, this happened to be then during a pandemic time. it took a couple of three years to finish all the

testing and stuff, but in the end we discovered that if you put oxygen in the water, the EZ gel increases a little bit. You can see it in electron microscope, it's a little bit, fraction, a percent. But if you put hydrogen in the water, nothing happens. The EZ gel isn't affected at all. If you put Brown's gas in the water, the minimum increase in the EZ gel was 300%, three times.

Freddie Kimmel (32:11.871)
Hmm.

George Wiseman (32:21.838)
And if you continue doing it over a period of time, I did it over months of time, the gel layer reaches a thickness that you can see with your eyes. You don't even have to have an electron microscope. So we're talking thousands of times increase in the EZ gel. Okay, why is that important? If you research gel polyc and this water, this EZ water or structured water, you'll start to get some clues.

but to zone right in on it, everything in our body is hydrophilic, okay, water-loving. And so everything in our body has this gel around it. And that solves three medical mysteries. First of all, our hearts do not produce enough pressure to push the blood through all the thousands, hundreds of thousands of miles of capillaries in our body. Second, even if it did, hydrodynamically speaking,

Fluid always flows the path of least resistance. Why does the blood flow all the way out to the tip of my head, to the tips of my fingers, to the tips of my toes, evenly, instead of just going the path of least resistance back into the heart and not going to the extremities? And third, how come a red blood cell, which is twice the size of the capillaries, able to slide through a capillary, instead of just plugging it up like a cork?

There's three mysteries, all solved by the same thing, which I will now say the second thing that Gerald Pollock discovered was, Professor Gerald Pollock, Jerry to his friends, if you have a tube small enough that's hydrophilic, it will spontaneously start to flow water with no pump, no pump. is absolutely...

worth it. He should be getting Nobel Peace Prize for these sort of things and his his he keeps getting just crazy. No water based life form on the planet, no planet, no no plant, no fish, no no reptile, no mammal, no no trees, nothing, no plant. Nothing can can survive without this effect. When you have a capillary small enough, the water flows spontaneously. It's why

George Wiseman (34:47.894)
Water can flow from the roots of a redwood tree 150 feet into the air to the leaves of the redwood tree to bring minerals and nutrients up as far as it needs to go. Theoretically, if it was just transpiration, which they say the leaf is evaporating water, so it creates a suction, which then pulls the water up from the roots. No, not saying that doesn't assist, but the point is...

Freddie Kimmel (34:54.227)
Mm-hmm.

George Wiseman (35:14.51)
trees even start flowing fluids in the spring before they even have their leaves out in order for the leaves to come out. So obviously that's not the thing. But now in our bodies, we have the heart producing maybe a PSI of pressure. Okay, they have these inches of mercury measurements that make it seem pretty high, like 120 or whatever the case may be, 80 over 120, 120 over 80 kind of thing. But really,

that's only operating in the one to one and a half PSI range. It's very low pressure. And so all the heart has to do is get the blood to the capillaries and the capillaries actually do the blood pumping in your body, which is why you can get blood flow evenly to all your extremities and why the heart doesn't need to have a hundred or 200 PSI pressure. And then as far as the red blood cells go, going through the capillaries, the inner

Freddie Kimmel (36:06.099)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (36:12.674)
part of the capillaries is all with this EZ gel and a gel is very slippery, but it's also negatively charged. It's H3O2 negative, okay? And that negative charge repels the negative charge of the EZ gel around the red blood cell. So you have not only a gel, but two negative charges which repel each other. So it's almost frictionless. And so the red blood cell can squeeze into a sausage shape and slide right through that capillary.

Freddie Kimmel (36:36.435)
Yep.

Freddie Kimmel (36:41.107)
That's right.

George Wiseman (36:41.75)
which has now got the power to push it through on its own. it, it, those are three medical mysteries that this solves. So the Brown's gas does something that regular hydrogen cannot do. And that increases the, the efficacy of making the easy gel in the body, which

Freddie Kimmel (36:53.779)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (36:58.921)
Thank you. think that's from now I want to offer everybody at home something too. If you wanted to have a real life example of this, grab two magnets, put the positive ends together and push them across the table. That's we're saying the negative charge on the net positive charge on the outside of a cell, we're pushing these against each other and they're moving throughout the body because of the pushback from each.

Little charge red blood cell, every surface in the body, the mitochondria, the fascia, collagen, capillaries, and cell membranes, they're all like George is saying, they're all hydrophilic. And this is not alternative medicine. is known, this is the research of easy water, which ironically, George, and this will get me in another thing is like, you know, this year in August, I lost my whole YouTube channel. 10 years of videos, 600 videos, hundreds of hours of

content stuff. Now it's not the podcast, it was one of those things, just heartbreaking, right? It's like two things. It's heartbreaking and it's life. It's the reality of impermanence. know, I was really frustrated and it was about the, the, audience knows this. was, I talked about a substance called, AG four four, which is a silver charge marduk particle.

which again has this great electron conversation and it can neutralize lots of stuff in the body. said that was medical misinformation and said it was harmful to YouTube. They pulled me down very similar conversation. You cannot mend. cannot use the word structured water. I want everybody to just hear the wildness of this world. This also is a term that will get you flagged and I've seen it happen to companies. So people

develop different terms or like, well, the fourth phase of water or water that impacts protein folding. It's the same conversation, which has been dictated in the scientific literature, but there are flag words out there because for whatever reason, people don't like the story to be connected in the way that it actually traces. This is just the breadclumb. it's what everything that you're saying about this fourth phase of water and creating an environment, I'm a protein expression.

Freddie Kimmel (39:13.637)
All my proteins are going to fold properly when they're in this fourth phase of gel-like water. And this is the water the body makes from my understanding of the science. And this is why we feel a little better when we include things like Brown's gas in the world. But the big thing I'm hearing you say, this is not a property of molecular hydrogen. They're different. I honestly think people could save themselves a lot of heartache.

and stop comparing them. I think you'll look at Brown's gas devices, and I think you'll look at hydrogen, and I think you'd save yourself a little bit of headache. They're very different.

George Wiseman (39:44.938)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (39:54.541)
Yes, I like and I tell us that I figure it this way. You need three things to be healthy. You need nutrition, you need energy and you need intelligence. The body has the intelligence that it needs. The body. We haven't even scratched the surface of the intelligence in the body, so it knows how to heal. As far as the energy goes, this is what the electrically expanded water does. It provides energy.

Hydrogen itself is like a building block or a brick. We are 62 % hydrogen by volume. It's our most important macronutrient. There's nothing in our body that even comes close to the volume of hydrogen. So we need to have hydrogen. It is either directly or indirectly involved in every chemical process in the body, as well as the building structure of the body, the hydrocarbons that actually make up us. So hydrogen is important.

but it does nothing without energy. If you consider hydrogen like a building brick for a brick house, it does nothing by itself. It needs energy, somebody to pick it up and move it. The intelligence moves it, the energy provides the movement. So you need those three things. And so the body has the intelligence, the Brown's gas has both energy and nutrition, which is what the body needs when it isn't in a healthy state because

our energy reserves are often depleted. And so we get into a upward spiral, because so many people are in a downward spiral. It's amazing how this exacerbates that and it gets as worse and worse as you go down. Well, now we start an upward spiral and then eventually the body's energy generation systems come back online and you just do better and better. There's athletes out there that are saying so many good things about Brown's gas.

because it increases their reaction speeds, their strength, their ability to heal quickly, their cognitive ability, all these things, the brown's gas increases.

Freddie Kimmel (42:02.791)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, phenomenal. We got to get some machines over to the Buffalo Bills.

George Wiseman (42:07.916)
Yes, we do!

Freddie Kimmel (42:09.369)
I, I, I, I'm obviously a huge bills fan, but man, it's been one of those years and I love sport. love football. It's been one of those years where you watch everybody play and the injuries are, I feel like I've never seen a season with so many injuries across all the teams. Right. It's like one, they're in two weeks. They're out. We tore our calf. We heard a thumb. It's a violent game.

But I'm always wanting, I was like, man, I wish people had the resources or some of the technology. I would just love to see. I'd love to see if we could pick one NFL team and just you guys go all in. We're going to get your lymphatic drainage suits. We're going to get you nano bubbled oxygen. We're going to have a Brown's gas nebulizer on every recovery table and just see. It wouldn't be an expensive experiment compared to what these teams pay. You know, it's, literally pennies in a bucket. It'd be phenomenal.

George Wiseman (43:02.594)
Yeah, that's absolutely true.

Freddie Kimmel (43:03.283)
Let's put that out there. Let's put that out there. George, want to get in in our time today. I want to get in the conversation around the bubbler. Because one thing I've been through, go back to episode one, the AquaCure is a device that operates, you're going to use an electrolyte solution, which in this machine is Lye. And every 100 hours or so, I go through a process and I always have to be reminded, I pull up the video.

how to clean my machine, how to change out the electrolyte. And I've got a couple backup jars. I just did it again last week. Really easy to do, but it's a little bit of a fun. If you're a citizen scientist, you're going to absolutely love it. So I go through this process of changing over the electrolyte solution. I primarily, I think I'm through two or three cycles now, I primarily...

use it as a breathable gas. I honestly, I don't drink the water that much. I just breathe it because it's really easy for me to pop on a cannula when I'm on a computer. And so I find most things again, as a technology, you know, hoarder, for lack of a better word, I use the things that are available to me in workflow. There's only so much time in the day and you really don't want to be plugged into a device. But if I'm writing emails or I'm working, I'm like, whoa.

why not use the electronically expanded water and the hydrogen? It's a no-brainer. You just came out with, or I just heard about a device that allows me to bubble my Brown's gas into the bathtub. So I'm getting this electronically expanded water into the tub. And I've been, I think we may have talked about this via the cancer, via, I had a big lipoma removed from my arm.

about a year and a half ago, I got a great scar over here. I got this huge one on my belly. So I'm two weeks in and I'm gonna just take, I have some initial pictures. I wanna see what these scars do over time. Cause they're big, right? I should see some movement in these, but I'm doing this new application. Can you tell us a little bit about what that bubbler is doing? And did you make a lot of noise about it when you launched it or just kind of put it out there?

George Wiseman (44:56.878)
Thank

George Wiseman (45:17.678)
Well, we just did a soft launch. my wife would like to make a lot more noise and my affiliates have been telling me to, I just, anyway, soft launch. So it goes like this and you're pretty much, we're introducing it kind of now, even as far as that goes, more than just the soft launch kind of thing. Brown's gas could always be bubbled into water using little bubbling stone. And, but,

Freddie Kimmel (45:20.158)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (45:35.634)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (45:43.187)
That's right.

George Wiseman (45:44.865)
If you think of the water molecules, they're obviously very flexible, but they have little tiny air gaps in between them, just little tiny. Any volume of water can absorb a certain amount of gases. And depending on the partial gas laws and the gases introduced, generally water has oxygen, nitrogen from the atmosphere already entrained in it. And if you put in Brown's gas,

It'll kind of drive those other gases out and fill those spots with the browns gas. So your oxygen and your hydrogen and your electrically expanded water can go in there. But there's only just a certain amount that can be held there. by the way, there's people that love infusing CO2 into their water, which I love too. It's great. But as soon as you do that, you drive out all the hydrogen. So you can't do them both at the same time. All right. So we.

Freddie Kimmel (46:31.283)
Yes.

Freddie Kimmel (46:34.644)
CO2 tolerance breathing, that's one of the things in our course that we do. It's excellent hack for immediate energy in your brain.

George Wiseman (46:38.251)
Yes.

Yes, yes, I'm hearing that. I haven't done that myself. I find that the browns gas does a good job, but like I don't drink coffee or anything and I can just go for hours and hours with the the browns gas, but I am hearing good things about the CO2 treatments as well. Okay, so in the water, how do you get more gas in there is big bubbles, but if the bubbles are too big, they will just immediately rise to the surface of the water, pop out and be gone.

Freddie Kimmel (46:49.161)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (46:55.944)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (47:10.904)
So what we did, we were experimenting with for quite a period of time was making a micro nano bubbler. I call it the micro bubbler generally speaking, but it makes some nano bubbles as well. The difference is that nano bubbles are usually under 50 microns in size and micro bubbles are under 200 microns. In any case, the micro bubbles look like a fog when you put it in the water. You've seen that yourself by now. And if you let that fog just...

Freddie Kimmel (47:34.972)
I have, yeah. Wait, have to tell you this story quick. A friend of mine sent me a picture of his bubbler and it was making these big, big bubbles. And I was like, you've not hooked up the machine correctly. And he was like, the tubes are backwards. And so he did it. And then he got the gray. You kind of see this gray floating fog move through your bubbles, through your bath water. And you can't see in the tub anymore. Anyways.

George Wiseman (47:50.926)
No

George Wiseman (48:03.566)
Right. No, perfect, perfect. So you get this fog in the water and that's the micro bubbles. If you let the fog dissipate, because eventually over a few minutes time, I don't know, half an hour or something, those will go out of the water. if you shine a laser, like a cat toy, like you play, or a laser pointer for demonstrations and stuff, you shine that in the water, you'll see the mic, nano bubbles, excuse me, nano bubbles.

Freddie Kimmel (48:04.105)
Sorry to interrupt.

George Wiseman (48:32.972)
You can't see with the eye. The water looked clear. But if you shine a laser through, you can see the nanobubbles. So just a couple of hints is to see and be able to tell the difference between these and other types of ones. There's one out there that's doing oxygen therapies now making kind of a wave on that using supposedly the micro bubbles. But the bubbles are way too big. They're just bubbling out of the water.

Yes, there will be some micro and nano bubbles in there, but nothing like our machine is doing. So what you do is even the micro bubbles, which are 50 microrons or smaller, are still hugely bigger, 100 times bigger than those little tiny spaces in between the water molecules. So even that is giving immensely more. So we'll just take a figure out of the air and say 100 times more.

browns gas in the water with the micro bubbler then you possibly could get just by bubbling the browns gas in the water and getting into the spaces between the molecules. So now that you have that much more, in this particular case it is true that more is more therapeutically effective than glass and you can't get essentially too much because any that is more than the water can hold is just going to dissipate out into the air anyway.

incidentally makes the air more therapeutically helpful. So you win every which way it is. In any case, my wife, who used to be a rock climber, was, I think I told you the story, but for your audience. So she had lots of scars on the front of her legs. she was, I think it was a matter of weeks. It took months to a year or more just for the inhalation.

Freddie Kimmel (50:13.001)
Yes, coming.

George Wiseman (50:26.19)
for my body to heal from the inside out. But this healing of her scars, it was a very short time and all her rock scars were, from rock climbing were gone. But she bathes two or three times a day at it. She loves the micro bubbler.

Freddie Kimmel (50:45.265)
I love it. love it. Yeah. I've noticed the tingle and I probably the same machine we're talking about George or you alluded to, know, there's a divide is that you're talking about the bimini the bimini. So I have a bimini and I've talked about this a lot on the show. It was again, it all goes, all goes back to experience. was the one thing to like truly like transform my sleep. I'm at 57 days in a row of a 93 to a hundred sleep score.

George Wiseman (50:55.65)
That's one.

Freddie Kimmel (51:15.123)
And I've never, I'm a problem sleeper always have been. but it's oxygen. And so I tell it, keep telling him like, don't the oxygen is different than Brown's cat. We, they're all different properties, but if you're in a severe sympathetic dominance and you micro capillaries are compromised from mold and lime, you're going to notice a difference in your attention index from that oxygen finally get into the tissue. And you just said the other way we could do it.

We could infuse CO2 into the body and we're going to have CO2 work as this lever to allow this push catch of oxygen delivery. That's another method. And then we have again, this electronically expanded water, which I think just, you always got to go try things and you have to see how your body responds. It's the best way. that's the best way, but it's really, I'm always reminded. The science is so strong on easy water.

the hydrophilic nature of tissues as they exist, and this electron donorship conversation. However, if we get into searching the available science, it's very weak. You know what I mean? It's not there. People are always, you know, go do a deep pub med. It's gonna say, you know, this is the mixture of hydrogen. This is this, this is this. Brown gas is alternative health.

And I just have to say, I've done the plant experiment with giving my plants, my Brown's gas water, and then my normal plant, the Brown's gas water is incredible. The growth it's incredible. You can't deny it. We sort of our plants, right? We, we convert light to energy and we need water and we need minerals and we have this, you know, hydrophilic nature of our micro capillary system. I, I just notice it. And I, I always tell people like, you know, there is.

the available science or settled science, if you will. And then there's this, there's these things that just haven't been looked at in the realm of health. I'm going to offer people two things. If you're a skeptic, have a one year, one year return policy on the aqua cure. No other device does that in the world and the, and the health space. don't do it. I think that's really impressive. And I have lots of friends that have gotten devices and they love it.

Freddie Kimmel (53:36.433)
It's what runs forever. It's easy to use. It's serviceable. And now we've got this other cool applications on it. think it's, I just want to keep that in the conversation. You know, I don't know, George, are people doing research and continued examination of Brown's gas alone?

George Wiseman (53:54.831)
That's a good question and generally the research has skewed over to pure hydrogen for the time being. In the very beginning, it was kind of, let's say 25 % was browns gas and then 75 % was pure hydrogen. But the permanent electrolyte membranes, PEM technology, SPE, solid polymer electrolyte,

Freddie Kimmel (54:02.164)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (54:24.664)
pretty much has dominated the electrolyzer field because it's so simple to build, quite frankly, and it's easy to maintain. So there's people out there that don't want to go through the extra maintenance of maintaining a brownscast machine where you have to dump out the electrolyte to get rid of it and clean it to get rid of the sludge and stuff. There's none of that with the pure hydrogen machines. They just simply, they have that solid polymer electrolyte instead of lye and they,

and you put in distilled water, be sure to put in distilled water in all electrolyzers, Brown's gas and the other pure ones, but especially with those pure ones, because if you put it in with Brown's gas, it just makes more sludge and maybe some plating out on the electrodes or something. It doesn't really hurt the machine, but in those solid polymer electrolyte, SPE or PEM machines, if you put anything but the purest distilled water in there, the impurities plug up that membrane really fast.

Freddie Kimmel (55:16.703)
Hmm

Freddie Kimmel (55:23.889)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (55:24.174)
So if you wanna keep it lasting for the two or three or four years that they're certified for, you definitely want to use as pure distilled water as possible. But even in the Brown's gas machine, you want to use as pure distilled water as possible because essentially what you put in is what you get out. And if you put in the impure water, your gases coming out are not gonna be as pure as they otherwise could be. So.

Freddie Kimmel (55:49.704)
Yeah. And important. And again, that's to the, is built into the solution of this device. That's that cleaning. That's why it's important. That's why we a maintenance cycle. But all my friends, Luke's story still uses his AquaCure. He's, you know, he has all the devices in the world. He still uses it. My buddy, Nick Urban here in town loves it. And he has, you know, we get to try things. We get to try stuff all the time. I have a discern of, I can feel it.

And I tell people that like molecular hydrogen, a hundred percent I use, I have a bottle. I use it every day. I believe in its, in its selective antioxidant capabilities. And I, especially when I'm traveling on a plane, we're exposed to DNA damage all day. So I use that therapy. but this is from my experience, this is one where people say, I feel good. And I don't think, is there a reason why hydrogen doesn't cause a discernible shift sometimes?

George Wiseman (56:46.351)
It comes back down to the energy. The hydrogen itself doesn't do anything. It doesn't react with anything. It takes it like even with oxygen, it's the oxygen doing the reaction. If you put hydrogen with some other relatively inert thing, it just doesn't do anything. It's that brick I was talking about. So it can be oxidized with oxygen and then you get the energy. But also those electrons in there

Freddie Kimmel (56:50.057)
Yeah.

Freddie Kimmel (56:54.675)
Yeah.

George Wiseman (57:15.491)
They make the difference. They provide the fuel to make things happen.

Freddie Kimmel (57:21.907)
Make energy. Yeah. And I'll, want to go back to this for everybody too. It's just, if you guys listen to this podcast and go out and start exploring, can hear George, your story, the, the, what I want to say, your, your, your pain to power stories, incredible. your mission to bring this to the world. That's all an episode. The first one we did, I think it's one 41 back in 2022. Everybody go check that out. But

You're gonna hear this, you're gonna see from my experience, I always hear people say, I'm really happy with the device. I'm happy with the service. If anything ever goes wrong, there's good reviews. You know, and you guys are all over the world. I had a woman ask me yesterday, she's like, can I get this in New Zealand? Can she? Yeah, doesn't matter. Great, great, can get it in New Zealand.

George Wiseman (58:07.503)
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter. We'll ship to Antarctica. It's no problem.

Freddie Kimmel (58:15.107)
that was, that was one thing somebody had just asked me about. And the other thing that I just want to mention before we go about the micro bubbler is that you can, you could bubble. What I like about it is someone who is a citizen scientist. If I want to bubble CO2 in my tub, I can. If I want to bubble hydrogen, can bubble. I can add an oxygen concentrator. could bubble anything in. Yeah.

George Wiseman (58:32.813)
It's true, you can bubble pure oxygen.

George Wiseman (58:40.163)
Yes, yes, it It takes a gas from wherever and infuses those as micro bubbles into the water. Yes. So ordinarily, if you just turn it on, it'll infuse just regular air, oxygen, hydrogen, or sorry, nitrogen mixture into the water. But yeah, you can feed it with anything. Yes.

Freddie Kimmel (58:49.48)
Awesome.

Freddie Kimmel (59:01.065)
So fun. Now, let me ask you this. Are there any other add-ons or inventions or tweaks that we're going to make to the AquaCure that'll come? Let me say this too. I want to tell everybody, you're good about adding to the machine. Like, you can, I got like a torch. Like I have this Brown's guess I could weld my device or it goes into the bubbler. I haven't had to buy a new machine.

George Wiseman (59:09.111)
Yes.

George Wiseman (59:26.521)
Right. So our machines are designed right from the very beginning to support add-ons that we intend to put in right from the beginning. And this micro bubbler was one of them. Another one is what we're calling the deuterium depleted water system. And that is a fad that's going on out there as well. I'm saying fad, but it's again, another modality, healing modality, because we are literally getting too much deuterium in our bodies.

And I don't know how much time we have for talking about deuterium, but let's just simply say, if you have too much, it tends to shut the body's metabolism down, just like heavy water, because that's what it is, heavy water, shuts down nuclear reactors, or mitigates the energetic. So to get the person's metabolism coming back up again, you have to get rid of the excess deuterium, and the body does get rid of it over time. So if you could just simply stop

ingesting deuterium, the way they've discovered, so if you get deuterium depleted water when you're drinking and eat foods that have low deuterium levels, particularly foods that have been grown with low deuterium water, if you're growing your own gardens and stuff, then, and the browns gas can help with that, as we've already pointed out, people with orchards and stuff, if you're doing the browns gas, you can get amazing growth

It grows much faster. The fruits are much better and everything like that. Back to the DDW. So, but DDW can cost you a thousand to fifteen hundred dollars a month just to, if you're buying enough to make a difference, a serious difference. And the aqua cure with this attachment that we've already proven scientifically can work. We're just kind of working out the mechanics of getting something that's commercial. In some cases, we're showing immeasurable

Okay, not measurable amounts of deuterium. And you cannot get deuterium depleted water out there that pure. And you can make it in your own, with the aqua cure, with these condensing apparatus that would be going with it. So that torch, we put it out with every single machine, not only so you could attach it and weld metals and do all sorts of fun things with a little micro torch, but we include it because it's an integral part.

Freddie Kimmel (01:01:37.951)
Mmm.

George Wiseman (01:01:51.362)
of the deuterium depleted water system. So that $150 addition that we give as a bonus, now when you get the deuterium depleted water condensing apparatus, you'll be able to shoot the browns gas flame into it. And the condensed water, because you're taking hydrogen and oxygen, which is straight H2 and O2, not D2, which would be deuterium, because that tends to stay in the electrolyzer.

So the water that's coming out, when you combine that hydrogen and oxygen in the flame, it makes steam. And the steam condenses, makes this deuterium depleted water. Or in some cases, I call it deuterium deleted water. And so that is an additional modality. It's the number five. Remember I said there's four modalities now? Well, that's number five. That every aqua cure that's ever been made.

has this capability of safely making the browns gas steam, if you will, that can be condensed into DDW. So that is another modality that will really help people have their bodies come back to life and regain metabolism that they had lost.

Freddie Kimmel (01:03:11.721)
Amazing, amazing. Well, when that is launched, we got to do a show about it. And we've done a show on deuterium depleted water. And if you guys really want to blow your minds, I think there's a really big study on pets and cancer using DDW. And this is another thing. There's like some really cool science. And there's a Deuterium Depletion Centers of America in LA who does research around DDW water. So.

George Wiseman (01:03:16.761)
Yes.

Freddie Kimmel (01:03:38.565)
Really, really fun, George. I always feel like these are the mad scientists podcasts that we do and it's, they're, they're exciting. They're edgy. Love what you're doing. And thank you for, taking the time this morning. Really appreciate it.

George Wiseman (01:03:52.791)
I really have fun and I really appreciate and thank you for providing these platforms where people can learn about this stuff.

Freddie Kimmel (01:04:00.446)
That's right. if you guys want to go, George's site is eagle-research.com. And you can use code beautifullybroken. There's a discount on the Brown's gas system, the Aqua, Aqua, AquaCure. And you could just go in there and you jump into the car. It's a great opportunity as we're going into Christmas. We'll get the show right out. Awesome gift. Awesome gift for somebody.

George Wiseman (01:04:08.249)
Yes.

George Wiseman (01:04:25.871)
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Freddie Kimmel (01:04:43.446)
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George Wiseman (01:04:45.807)
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We have some inventory we're selling right now that was assembled with the lower price product components and labor and all that. But the prices of everything have increased and we just, we have to pay people more because the prices of everything has increased. that, and so we're to have to raise the price after December 15th. So do get that 25 % off and get in there right away. And there's a one year satisfaction guarantee. you're.

Freddie Kimmel (01:05:41.011)
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George Wiseman (01:05:43.565)
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Freddie Kimmel (01:05:47.603)
Yeah, that's great. I love it. I love it. Thank you, George. Really appreciate your time. Big love.