Wade Lightheart on enzymes, digestion, and optimized health

In this episode, Freddie talks with Wade Lightheart, a 3-time All Natural National Bodybuilding champion, advisor to the American Anti-Cancer Institute, and Director of Education at BiOptimizers Nutrition. 

Wade talks about the importance of digestion, why it’s important to monitor what goes in your body, why you need to be aware of your body’s enzymatic activities, and what it’s like to be part of BiOptimizers Nutrition.

This episode highlights the concept of optimizing your body through awareness of your digestion and the supplements your body needs. It you want to learn how your body’s enzymes work, the benefits of magnesium, and self-healing, this episode is for you!

Episode Highlights

02:29 Wade talks about his shift from bodybuilding to being a part of a new age supplement company, BiOptimizers Nutrition.

10:39 Why correcting your digestion and being aware of the chemicals and elements you put in your body can lead to massive improvements.

28:14 Freddie talks about his experience with metastatic cancer and his struggles post-surgery.

31:45 Wade talks about the significance of magnesium in the body and how he started testing to see what benefits it brings to our system.

39:40 The hierarchy structure behind the cell and how these factors affect how your cells function.

46:06 Wade talks about AWESOME and how to optimize your body’s function through supplements.

50:52 Freddie encourages listeners to look for people who speak and live their truth. Wade gives his perspective on the current system in society, giving listeners a special lesson.

1:05:48 Freddie gives his takeaways—everybody has their own beliefs and if you can heal yourself, you can heal the world.

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (00:00.248)
For example, if you're eating herbicides, pesticides, and fungicides on your food, and that disrupts and kills bugs because it disrupts their essential enzymatic pathways in the body, how much of that stuff do you need to eat before it kills you?

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (00:16.396)
Welcome to the Beautifully Broken Podcast. I'm your host, Freddie Kimmel, and on this show we explore the survivor's journey, practitioners making a difference, and the therapeutic treatments and transformational technology that allow the body to heal itself. Witness the inspiration we gain by navigating the human experience with grace, humility, and a healthy dose of mistakes. Because part of being human is being beautifully broken.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (00:57.528)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the beautifully broken podcast. As always, we continue to deliver guests. I wanna say the class A status here. We have with us the founder of one of my favorite supplement companies in the world, which is Bio Optimizers. But we have Mr. Lightheart, who is also, I mean, I could go through your resume, Wade, which I think is sort of annoying for the guest, but I think just a couple bullet points to give people.

the scope of some of the stuff you've done, which is awesome. He competed in the Mr. Universe contest. He was a vegan bodybuilder. He hosts the awesome health podcast. And he, like we said before, the creator, founder, the brains behind one of the best supplement companies in my opinion on the market really focuses on quality. And we'll get into some of that, but Wade, welcome to the show.

Dude, great to be here. Thanks for having Yeah, it's a true honor. It's a true honor. There's so many things we could dive into. And I wondered if you couldn't just give a little backstory on your transition. I would love to hear about your transition from bodybuilding, which someone could witness from the outside and say, wow, what a healthy human being to where you're at today. How does that journey from bodybuilding, which is perceived from the outside is very healthy to someone who is behind this

new age supplement company kind of delivering a next level of nutrition? You know, there's so many different components to that. And first and foremost, I always want to say I don't think I know everything or have it all figured out. That's number one. And I think you always need to have that kind of mindset. We're always learning and growing. But, know, I got attracted into the bodybuilding market very early on during a health crisis that my sister had. She was four years my senior when I was 15 years old and she

contracted Hodgkin's disease, which is cancer of the lymph nodes. And I watched her go through the medical model before she died at the age of 22. That had a very strong impact on me. And she'd given me a bodybuilding magazine that had a picture of Troy Zuclata when the cover had all these muscles and these two pretty girls in bikinis driven mad with testosterone. I'm 15. I'm like, dude, maybe if I could get these muscles, I'll be healthy and I can get girls. But that had a big impact because I can remember her coming home from the hospital. She'd be vomiting five, six times on the way in the 55 mile drive to our rural.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (03:21.952)
at home. Something's not right here. The treatment seems worse than the disease. What are we like? What's going on here? I'm not getting the full picture. So I went to study exercise physiology while continuing on with my bodybuilding career. And I worked at every single facet of the health and wellness industry. So I worked in the warehouse of a nutritional company delivering products and also in the warehouse of a grocery store. worked as a consultant.

In a nutritional supplement store, I was a sponsored athlete. ran a gym. I became a personal trainer. I opened my own supplement shop. I was consulted for manufacturing. ended up writing books and articles and thick periodicals and led to working with the American anti-cancer Institute as an advisor. But in 2003, after 16 years, I got to realize my dream and represent my country at the Mr. Universe contest.

And so in order to do that, you've got to win your local events and your provincial championships, which is like a state championships, your Western Canadians, and then you go to the national championships. And then if you win that, you can go to the universe. And so I had a great coach. I had Spartan discipline. pushed away. had no business being in bodybuilding. I have terrible genetics. My parents looked like

white colored smurfs, you know, so it didn't come easy, but I had to learn all these things. And so I was able to use my mind to overcome the limitations of my body and just outwork other people out, think everybody out, strategize. So I was always finding all the little details that I had to get to hack. I believe that bodybuilders are really the original biohackers. They're using all sorts of extraordinary things to overcome your natural genetic limitations. Now after the Mr. Universe contest,

explain this. I gained 42 pounds of fat and water in 11 weeks. Went from Mr. Universe to Mr. Marshmallow. What happened? Good news is I met a medical doctor. And this doctor was in his 70s. He had clear skin. He was super vibrant. was radiating health. had overcome cirrhosis of the liver. He'd overcome colon cancer. He had helped all these legends like Bernard Jensen when he got cancer at the of his career at the book Come Alive.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (05:35.31)
Bernard credits Dr. O'Brien for his recovery with some of the things we'll talk about today. And I was like, God, man, here's this guy in 70s. sees everything I want to be. I'm 31 years old. I'm a wreck. How did this happen? And I asked him that question. He says, wait, I'm going to teach you something. And this changed my life and it will change her listener's life. said, you've learned to build the body from the outside in. I'm going to teach you how to build the body from the inside out. And that landed on me big time.

And so in that process, myself and Matt Galant, my business partner, he's the co-founder of Bio Optimize. He also got to meet O'Brien and we mentored under him extensively for a period of time, six months. I transferred my health, I got my physique back, I got my health back, my energy was through the roof. felt super about, you know, the testimonial story that you had to talk through, you all that stuff. And we started the company educating people about what happened and what we realized.

is that most people are attracted into the fitness industry or sports industry for one of two areas. Aesthetics or performance. Which we call two sides of the biological optimization triangle. But oftentimes the pursuit of either one of those independently or concordantly of each other will lead to one problem. It will compromise your health. And that's the base of the pyramid.

And so most people get attracted to the physical fitness culture, the health culture, because they want to look a certain way. They want to be more attractive to, know, their sexual partners. That's really the underlying drives them cosmetic industry, the car industry, the movie industry, the entertainment. It's all about that biological drive that they're leveraging. Then you've got the performance side, you know, I'm going to be an executive. And usually you get into fitness, you want to look good and all that stuff. And then you get into your life and you got kids or you got a job. You're going for performance.

And then suddenly you walk into the office when something's not going wrong and the doctor gives you some crazy diagnosis that you're going, holy crap, I didn't think about my health. I thought that was an automatic. And in today's world, if you have an attitude that your health is an automatic, guess what? That automatic is like an automatic toxic gun that is gonna shoot you up and take you out of the game earlier than you anticipate. So I began practicing the principles of

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (07:55.438)
what I learned from Dr. O'Brien, addressing my health and then using those principles to enhance both my performance and my aesthetics. And it took me four years to master it. We coached, think some like 15,000 athletes around the world. And we got all this data from these people and we could start to tweak and optimize these things. And after four years, I made a comeback. I got ready for a national championship in three and a half weeks.

I won both my titles, I went to the world championships, instead of placing 13th, I placed fifth, which was really good for a guy like me. And after that, I was like, you know what? I'm comfortable really taking this on a wide scale and we've done that. And then the company came out to become bi-optimizers as it's known today, because we recognize there were specific areas that were really big holes in the nutrition industry, particularly around digestion, nervous system optimization.

brain optimization and these things. And so we always focused on education first. You cannot supplement your way out of a bad diet. You cannot hack your way out of a horrible lifestyle. You have to be able to leverage the tools and techniques and practices into a habitual routine on a day-to-day basis that will allow you to embrace your biological potential. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. feel like, especially in this biohacking movement,

For me, it's always, you know, people get in for a reason and then it's like, what is the why behind it that's really gonna drive it home and bring it to this place of the heart? And I think what you just mentioned, there's a little bit about where the holes are in people's health and the big gaps. And I think without getting into the current situation we're in in the world, I think everybody has been forced to reevaluate that health, longevity, it's not a given.

whatever you perceive the situation to be, but we're all forced to really look at what's going on with our bodies. And while the human microbiome is divine as it is, why are some of these people that are 40 years old, 35 years old, 51 years old, contracting a virus and boom, going down? I would love to hear about why the role of digestion for you has been such a core principle of correcting the ship first.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (10:13.736)
because I've heard you speak about this a few times and I'm of the same belief and I'm also of the understanding that within the chronic Lyme community, toxic mold, any of these long-term chronic fatigue is that digestion. It's like always the first dial on the dashboard of the car that goes and people don't always make the connection. So I'd love for you to speak about that just for a moment. Yeah, there's two things.

That's relative to this. One is the unintended consequences of rapid technological innovation. That's the first cause. The second cause is a basic assumption that I made and that almost every single person within the holistic health industry, the medical industry, whatever authoritative industry and then personalized thing makes. And that is I am what I eat. And you are what you digest, absorb and utilize as well as what you eliminate.

And so it's a single canal from your mouth to your butt. And the reality is when food is in that canal, that does not mean that it is inside the cells where you need it. There is a five stages essentially, and there's a lot of you could break that down, but there's five distinct stages of digestion, which is the conversion of what you consume into either energy units or building blocks. And in order to have that.

You're not getting the nutrition you want or you're over toxifying yourself because of the unintended consequences of technological innovation. So let's back the truck up. If you go to the emergency ward right now, 12 % of the people being checked into an emergency hospital situation or gastrointestinal related issues, a hundred million people in this country are suffering from some sort of digestive condition on any given day. 25 % of those are on prescription medications and this keeps growing each and every day. Why?

It all goes back to an interesting event that happened in 1945. And that was the dropping of the nuclear bomb in Japan. Now that ended the war. However, when the war ended, a couple of things happened. Number one, all the bombs prior to that were made out of nitrogen. We didn't know what to do with the nitrogen. What are we going to do with that? Number two, there was a baby boomer explosion. All the governments of the world are like, how are we going to feed the people? We don't know.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (12:32.276)
So government got involved in creating agricultural programs in order to produce mass quantities of food for a rapidly growing population. Now there was also technology, distribution, information, the demand for products around the world. So we radically altered the production and distribution of the food supply. So in 1900, the US Congress was concerned about the degradation of wheat products. It was 90 % protein.

Today it's less than 7%. That's how people in the middle ages could live on bread. If you get all the nutrients in it, if you were to eat a peach today versus a peach in 1955, you would need 55 peaches today to make one peaches nutrients in 1955. Well, how did this happen? Well, when we started producing on mass, we used to grow gardens with seven types of crop rotation. We'd grow one food on it. We grow another food. One year we would grow hemp and plow that into the ground because it reconstituted the soil.

And then we would let one year go fallow and you would change this because different foods will make nutrients and different foods will extract nutrients. And so you would rotate it. But when we went into large monoculture to support this group and you started using, guess what? We couldn't still, produce enough food. So.

We said, hey, why don't we take this extra leftover nitrogen and put that on the soil because it makes the food grow better. Well, it does, but guess what? It degrades the protein further. It disrupts the enzyme production. We don't extract as much vitamins and minerals because you need enzymes to get your protein, protein to get your minerals, minerals to get your vitamin. It works for plants, it works for people. This is a way for biological organisms. Without that chain, it doesn't work. So now we have a decrease in the nutrient quality. Now we're not plowing the soil in so that we're losing minerals out of the soil. So now the food has less protein, less enzymes.

we're spraying them because guess what? We still can't produce enough food. The plants are getting weaker because they create proteins to protect itself from the bugs. So we said, hey, let's put herbicides, pesticides and fungicides, which disrupt the enzymatic activity of bugs and enzymes are so critical. There's 25,000 different chemical reactions that we are aware of that enzymes race with probably thousands of more. And the difference between stones, plants and people is your enzymatic capacity of

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (14:43.38)
the body and how vibrant and how much of that you have and how many quote unquote metabolic checks you can write in your system. So guess what? That still didn't work after so many decades. So now we needed to get genetically modified food because then the bugs can't recognize the food. They eat the food. It doesn't support them. The bugs die. So guess what? Now we have food quote unquote. We have continued with the definition of food from 70 or 80 years ago.

but we don't know what food was like seven or eight years anymore. Most people have never grown up with it. And so now all of these agents, for example, if you're eating herbicides, pesticides and fungicides on your food and that disrupts and kills bugs because it disrupts their essential enzymatic pathways in the body, how much of that stuff do you need to eat before it kills you? I don't know, but what we do know is there's a rapid rise in three things.

which was predicted by Dr. Edward Howell in his book, Enzyme Nutrition and Food Enzymes for Health and Longevity. He took all these species, he fed them a chemicalized, enzymatically deficient diet, all that sort of stuff, and guess what? By the third generation, they exerted strange sociological behavior. In other words, not innate to those species. Humans are the dominant species on the planet for their ability to work.

in groups and to work in large organizational structures. That's what separates us from the animals. Suddenly we're divided about everything anymore. Second thing he said, we would see a massive rise in genetic diseases because there was all these genetic mutations within the species. Well, if you see the rise in genetic mutations in the last hundred years around the planet, it's extreme and does not fit any sort of evolutionary biological model. Third thing, the inability to procreate.

What is the rise of fertility clinics around the world and people that can't have kids anymore? Massively, and every single industrialized nation starts to see a drop off in the birth rate. So people worry about population expansion. If you look at evidence, the best way to stop population expansion is to create a radical industrialization of that society because as soon as you do, guess what? The birth rate drops. All of this coincides together to give us a world that today's

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (17:06.356)
people, they're 20, 34 years old, are living in a world, they're not eating the food that their parents had. Then they're subjected to tens of thousands of different chemicals. We have no idea what they do independently, let alone in conjunction. We increase sedentary lifestyles, which movement is the key to remove toxins out of the body. It's a lymphatic system response. A lymphatic system is three and a half times the volume of the blood system and any textbook

or any education you get in university talks all about the blood system, the respiratory system, all these other systems, the muscular system, the nervous system, doesn't talk about the lymphatic system, very, very brushes over that. Well, you can burn a lot of different fuels in a car, but if you put a couple of bananas in the tailpipe, so when the exhaust come out, the engine stops running. That's why there's paleo diet, that's why there's keto diet, that's why there's...

vegan diets, that's where there's carnivores. We can burn a lot of different fuels as humans and generally you're going to be attracted to a diet that's based on your genetic and enzymatic pathways that allow you and the level of toxicity that you have. I personally believe that when you optimize your digestive system and functioning of the body, you could do well on a variety of different fuels, a lot of variety of different diets. So when you move towards optimized health, and we have a mission to help activate biological optimization in humans,

We believe that your ranges increase instead of decrease. Now in acute phase, you might have to decrease your choices to change the lifestyle parameters that got you into the trouble that you're in. But once you get down to a certain part, you cannot starve your way to health. You cannot restrict yourself to abundance. And God knows your responsibility as a listener for health. So the reality is we have to take ownership of our health.

and assemble a team of experts around us to give us the information we need. Now we'll take it back to digestion. single canal from mouth to your butt. This is the source of assimilating the food that you need. So, first stage, taste, touch, smell, feel the food. So if I say dill, pickles, and sauerkraut, people start to salivate. Why is that? Because there is a biological Pavlovian response that food is on the way and I need to start recognizing that.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (19:23.77)
Ultimately, we were used to eat in a rest and relax space. Now we have TV coming on. have light coming on. We have EMS coming on. We have stress from our lives and all these things without the expression of physicality, which, you know, when you got stressed in the old days, you went out and hung from a tree or fought off a lion or whatever it happened to be. Well, now it's a big deal. I mean, think about this. The coming of a man in society and most tribal societies, which is what humans grew up in, you had to kill

a bear or you had to kill an elk or a buffalo or you had to kill some ferocious animal just to be a man. Okay. I'm like, we're like pounding our chest because I went to the grocery store and got everything on the grocery list today. I mean, we've gotten weak as a society, like so ridiculous. Like people came over here on boats. They were subjected to disease and starvation and they got here. There was no Whole Foods. There was no grocery store. There was no

There was woods and there were bugs and there were animals and there was famine. And these people found a way to survive. It's like we're talking infinitely tougher, hearty more people. didn't outsource their responsibility to an external authority. And so during this process, we have got to recognize that that's the first thing. And when we taste, touch and sensor food, it activates millions of years of biological preparation and eating in that kind of environment.

Then the food travel, we masticate it, which is a fancy name for chewing. And then the food goes down or esophagus. Okay, and it's a little tube that goes down to your stomach. Now in your stomach, when it enters into that stomach, there is two phases to your stomach. There's the upper cardiac portion of the stomach, which is where the food enters the first 30 to 60 minutes. This is where the enzymes present in the food are supposed to break down the food. Now, if I'm a lion hunting zebras in the morning,

I go out, I knock down the zebra, I grab the entrails where the enzymes and probiotics are, then I eat the carcass. If I'm a bear grabbing a salmon, I eat the guts and then I eat the salmon or I eat a blueberry, I eat the whole thing. I get the bacteria that was on it, I get the enzymes and the fruit. If I'm a cow or a horse, I'm trying to get the most enzymatically rich, sprout and the greenest, most vibrant food where all the nutrients and enzymes and workers are. But we're the only species on the planet that cooks our food, irradiates food.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (21:45.748)
makes it antibacterial because we're so weak. Our immune systems are so weak. can't tolerate a little bit of bugs. We can't tolerate. So what happens after that first 30 to 60 minutes, if you don't have the enzymes present, well, your body has to manufacture enzymes, which has huge enzymatic costs, which is why people feel tired after a big meal. It's not because it's tryptophan. It's because you ate too much and all your enzymatic production is going away from your brain, away from your heart, away from your toes and your nose and all that stuff. And it's shunted into your guts to try and break down this mass of food that you can't break down.

Next thing, hydrochloric acid then comes into the stomach at 30 to 60 minutes. There is not a big bowl of acid sitting in your stomach waiting for something to plop into like, you know, crap into a toilet bowl. It comes in 30 to 60 minutes. The key component to create hydrochloric acid is actually hydration. Most people are chronically dehydrated. How do know that? I tested hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people on what's called an electro interstitial water scan at my clinic when I ran it in Vancouver way back in the day. And guess what?

Everybody that came into that clinic, they were all dehydrated. I think I found like two people out of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds who were not fully hydrated. And that means they can't produce enough hydrochloric acid. And the average 40 year old has less than 30 % of the enzymes present they had at birth. And they have less than 30 % of the hydrochloric acid they had at birth. So guess what happens? The food starts to ferment. The esophageal sphincter, which is a little flap on the top of your stomach pops open.

And whatever mixture of acid in food that you have starts to splash up and creates acid reflux and heartburn. If you feel the food sitting in your stomach, like a rock, you don't have enough enzymes to break it down. If you're getting acid reflux and heartburn, that's because you don't have enough hydrochloric acid to further create the... And isn't that when I go to my doctor to get my proton pump inhibitors? Right. And if you look at the literature in the research, you're only supposed to be on a proton pump for four to eight weeks.

because it has severe complications because hydrochloric acid does two things. One, it changes the pH of the stomach and food chime, which activates some enzymes and deactivates others and various amino acids and things are cleave and at different points of that process. The second thing and maybe the most important thing that hydrochloric acid does is it serves as a disinfectant. It donates positively charged ions to kill

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (24:13.04)
foreign invaders like insects like parasites like bacteria and like viruses That's what its job is and when you have lower hydrochloric acid as we age We're more susceptible that we're more susceptible. It's an open canal into the body. Guess we've got problems after that the food Exits the stomach our body produces a wonderful thing called bicarbonate buffers, which is a fancy name for alkaline minerals And that buffers the acids

so that it doesn't burn our intestinal tract. If the acids aren't being buffered because of low mineral content in the body, you start getting things like duodenaletes, ulcers, and these type of things where you get perforations in your intestines, because your intestines aren't made to have that kind of stomach acid in. This final stage is all this food chime enters into your intestines. Inside of there, at various stages, there are different types of bacteria. 10 % good, 10 % bad.

80 % opportunities. I call it the good, the bad and the ugly. I love that film. Well, the reality is, is these probiotics operate within a symbiotic relationship in our body. They're hooked to our nervous system. They make our neurochemicals. When you are craving ice cream and Doritos at two o'clock in the morning from 7-Eleven, there's a reason. It's because the bacteria in your stomach want to be fed. That's not your food craving. That's the back.

that are being supported by it running your nervous system. And people have a hard time believing that, but the reality is if we didn't have any bacteria in our stomach or in our intestines, we'd all be dead. And so these guys, there's 10 times of those compared to ourselves at least. There are hundreds of different strains. They're discovering new strains all the time. And these things complete the final stage of digestion. In other words, they convert the pre-digested food into either energy units or into building blocks.

And what it doesn't use needs to be eliminated from the body or it becomes a toxin. And because of the use of chemicalization, because of the use of widespread use of antibiotics and a variety of different chemical elements, we get holes, perforations in the biofilm in our body, which is like a mucoid layer that protects the enzyme. And when you get holes in there, you actually start dumping crap into your blood.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (26:35.78)
Thesis is are entering in your blood these things start floating around and causing all kinds of problems You get pathogens floating in the system you get all these fungal things all that sort of stuff starts going on and the bottom line is The final stage is elimination. So we've gotten so weak and our lower abdomen, right? First off, there's a lot of women can't get on a trampoline without peeing their pants

And a lot of men can't pee properly and the thing because they have lost prostate control in their body because we sit all the time and we don't act and we don't stand, we don't squat, we don't move all the time like our ancestors did. So any muscle that doesn't work atrophy. So in strengthening the pelvic floor is a critical component to strengthening the internal muscles that we do not see on a bodybuilding stage. There's something that is essential to our functioning as well as the peristaltic smooth contraction of the body.

Right. Which require key elements like magnesium in order for that to work. And then the elimination happens. So anytime there is a disruption in any part of that, not only does it cause some nutrients not to be absorbed or toxins to be absorbed, but it also compromises the next stage. And that's how we've got into such a digestive error. So I could make all kinds of products. can make all kinds of supplements. If I haven't addressed someone's digestion first, I'm only getting a fraction of that product.

into the cells where the body needs it. And that's why we started our company focusing on digestion because I had my own digestive crisis. I went through that. learned about it. And thankfully I had that crisis because there's a great book called The Crisis. The obstacle is the way when you've run into an obstacle, oftentimes that leads you to a whole career point. And that's why we're on this podcast from your situation. mean, it's the shaman's experience. Most shamans are birthed into this transcendent healing work because they've had this crisis within their own body.

There's so many things, the digestion, I just want to like parallel that. I have never done an episode on abdominal adhesions, but because of the metastatic cancer I experienced, because of where it went my abdomen, I had to have, you know, pelvis to sternum. Cut open, take out all your small bowel, let's pack it back in, stitch it up. Shortly after that surgery, I started to have, I'll never forget this. It was, my God, it was two months after surgery. I was eating clams and it was a lot of fat in the meal.

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (28:54.524)
And because I had all this new scar tissue in my belly, I just got up the wrong way, small intestine twisted, and I was on the floor screaming. I had never experienced pain. Had a partial obstruction of the small intestine. You know, went to the ER, puke for two days, they gave me an IV. I went home. Over the next 10 years, I went to the emergency room 20 times. I had four more surgeries to go in and open up where

I didn't know this, learned it. But if you touch the small intestine with the human finger, it leaves a fingerprint and the body starts to grow scaffolding and all the scar tissue, you can imagine the intestine wanting to move around like spaghetti in a wet bag. It starts to stick like there's gum in there. So I had to, and believe me when I say there was no help or authoritative guidance on this issue, when doctors told me, they're like, we got nothing for you as opposed to cut you open again. That was it.

So I have literally, you know, knock on, I got to, I'm going to knock on plastic or whatever this table's made out of. But I biohacked my way out of that situation using one was enzymes, know, seropeptase high, high, dose enzymes. And I just started to read. And another one was a mechanical manipulation of that tissue actually just skin rolling. other things that work were delivering energy to the intestine through pulsed electromagnetic field, and then a little bit of red light.

Beautiful, beautiful combo. And realizing the mechanisms of the body. And there was a time, and I'm going to bring it back to your digestion, your crisis. There was a time in there, and this is so funny, when I would poop like once every three days, maybe like once a week, like three years. mean, there was a time when I was like, pooping is like better than sex. It was like, it's amazing. You don't miss it until it's gone. And I was like,

Was there a time when I just pooped every day and I didn't even praise God for the amazingness of pooping? You know, there was, there was a time when it was just a normal body function and I had to work so hard because of the surgery to get it back. I'm just so thankful to be able to do that on the regular now. And I would love to talk a little bit about the role of magnesium because

Freddie Kimmel and Wade Lightheart (31:19.13)
I played with so many different types of magnesium and a lot of times it would make my heart race or it would make me just have straight up diarrhea. I could never find the balance. I really had to find the right combination of magnesium elements to help with that elimination process. I'm sure you have really good insight on why or where people try it and it's like, it didn't work for me. Great question.

So magnesium, going back to our soil situation, is probably the most deficient mineral that we have. The other thing is, is we've augmented almost all our diet with calcium. So we have too much calcium and not enough magnesium, and they operate in a two to one ratio, magnesium being the control. So when you have too much calcium and not enough magnesium, you start to dump calcium in order to make magnesium, and that's what creates osteoporosis. oftentimes osteoporosis conditions are not related to calcium deficient, they're actually related to magnesium.

issues which or the unabsorbability of the minerals that you're taking if you're taking both magnesium and calcium And now I have to give credits to A guy by the name of the strength sensei charles polyquin. So for those who don't know who charles polyquin is He was a guy that learned multiple different languages so he could learn about the research From different countries because oftentimes countries focus on different things And he's also known because he trained I think it was

gold medalists in 27 different Olympic sports and who's who of professional sports. And he died not that long ago, much too urgency. But one of the things that he attended a conference with him at bulletproof in California out here in California, and he had all these different questions. It was phenomenal. And one of the things that he talked about was how he used different types of magnesium to augment the stress from

professional athletes and Olympic athletes. And so he described to us how different types of magnesium were uptaken by different tissues inside the body. And I thought, wow, that's fascinating topic. Now, what concordantly, I was a serial entrepreneur at the time running three businesses, not sleeping very much. I was the kind of guy that had a lot of energy and a lot of ambition. So I was just, you know, being a typical alpha male running crazy and thinking you can live forever and do everything. And I had all this tool sport.

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I got myself into a physiologic trouble. had some problems with another business partner and there was some legal stuff. It was a disaster and I was under some stress and it was just horrible. And so I got myself really wiped out. And I did some tests with my naturopathic doctor and says, you're extremely magnesium deficient because what's interesting when you expose yourself to high levels of EMF, high levels of blue light and high levels of stress, guess what?

you actually burn through magnesium at a rate. I was like, oh, this is kind like Charles was talking about. I'm exhausting. I thought I was getting enough magnesium, but I realized my lifestyle was just torching magnesium at an excessive rate. So I said, well, I'm going to fix this. I'm going to start with what Charles said. And I started buying all different types of magnesium and like a good biohacker would, I started documenting and testing this. And I was so interested in it. Matt got interested in my business partner and he started documenting and testing.

And we got our naturopathic doctor, our geneticist, and she's doing it and we're running this thing. And all of a sudden I have a cupboard full of magnesiums. And I discovered a lot about different types of magnesiums, what they were good for, what they weren't good for. And so we categorized them. And then what we did is we sourced them down to the precise amounts that we thought would give the best results and put seven different magnesiums in one pill. That was a problem because when you do magnesium, they have different bondages. There's aspartate, there's bisclisinate.

There's malate, there's orotate, there's all these different magnesiums. And what that refers to is the bonding agent that goes with it. Now there's the bonding agent, but there's also the chemical agents that cause what they call the expedient, the thing that causes the flow. And these molecules are different size. So nobody had put all these together because it wouldn't flow through the machines properly. And then when you put it in the cap, the cap would bust because it couldn't get the permeability. So we had to overcome all these different challenges with the people that we worked with, get the right magnesiums.

Make sure there wasn't no chemical agents in it. Make sure the flow was good. Make sure the capsules would hold it. Put it all together in the right dosage. And we came out with magnesium break-tube. That's how that product came to fruition. Again, trying to solve my own problem. Tim Ferriss says the best companies and the best products are usually built by people who are trying to scratch their own itch. And that's been very much the same at Biooptimizer. We have an issue or someone close to us has a big issue. We want to solve it and we just go after it until we do. That's amazing. So.

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What have you seen from this form of magnesium when we apply it to say the athlete, the high sports performance individual? Just the general public from start to finish. I was not prepared. So we produced it said, Hey, well, we got this magnesium to solve our own problem. I'm to have a dozen bottles of magnesium to take every day. And so we produced it and we started selling it. didn't think that much about it.

All of a sudden we got this flood of testimonials. I'm not stressed out anymore. I finally sleep through the night. I'm not getting muscle contractions where I'm twitching. I can now go to the bathroom properly. Right? Like I don't get the jitters from caffeine anymore. I'm able to maintain focus for a long time. like, how is this even possible that magnesium is this girl? Well, magnesium plays a key role in a lot of enzymatic processes, regulation of the nervous system.

relaxation of smooth muscle tissue and striated muscle tissue. And it also supports the nervous system under high stress environments. does anybody under those conditions? Yeah, everybody is. And so the bottom line is it now quickly accelerated. People had their migraines go away because migraines happen from a constriction of the blood flow due to some sort of reactive protein. Usually that's been activated, causes an allergic response. causes contraction.

Well, now we open up blood flow. When we open up blood flow, we are able to neutralize the tissues and you're able to get other supplements. So magnesium becomes a carrier mineral to open up vasodilation to tissues that aren't getting the nutrients that they require. Because even if the food gets into the body, if those nutrients aren't opening, you mentioned pulse magnetic technology. What do those things do is often open up the arterioles and the little like dental floss components that supply all their cells.

And by opening those up, get blood flow, we get nutrients in, we get toxins out. And right now everybody's gummed up with all sorts of toxic goop inside their systems and the blood is not flowing and the lymphatic system is not able to drain. And so by hitting all of these components, we're able to reverse the trends for the unintended consequences of technological innovation and magnesium is a key element to that whole process. I mean, I found like it's the indispensable.

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element that you've got to include in someone's paradigm if they want to feel better, if they want to perform better. know, Wade, I know somebody could listen to the show and they could be like, my God, these guys have talked about so much stuff. It's so overwhelming. And you mentioned education is a big part of the mission behind bio-optimizers. Is there a certain place where you recommend people to start dipping their toe in the water? And for me, I do feel like it's helpful to understand

like we've been saying, the role of minerals, the role of hydration, the role of digestion. Is there some type of a bird's eye view that people can start learning about through bio-optimizers? 100%. So I ran into this problem, my own self. And keep in mind, this is all I've done in my life. I'm a health guy. This is what I've done from the time I was 15 years old. And I saw all this competing information. And what I recognize is like, okay, how does anybody

Even with someone with a background, let alone someone that's not a background, like, don't know how to fix my car. I take it to a mechanic, right? He knows what to hook up to it and what to fix and all that stuff. I need experts. need someone to systematize the process. And so what I did is I thought about this for years and years and years as how do I systematize this system? And I went, okay, what is the one common element of the body that every organ shares? Every tissue, it's a cell. If we can make cells.

function properly, we should be able to make the health. And so there should be a hierarchy structure that we address in order to make cell function. So I went, okay, well, everybody's talking about diet, right? It's all about your diet, every expert. And then they tell you a totally different diet than the other expert. I go, wait a minute. What's the common element here? And I said, okay, well, how long can you actually go without food? And you can go months. It's not.

comfortable, you can go a time. I've seen like people say 42 days. think David Blaine did like 44 and in a cage in Las Vegas. know a Dr. O'Brien that my mentor did over 80. Wow. Okay. So you can go a long time. 40 days is kind of 40 days. Yeah. 40 days, but long time. So I'm like, all right, how long can you go without water?

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Not nearly that time. So when the hierarchy of importance, is important, the food you eat or the water you drink? Water. Water is more important. Wait a second. Is water the most important? We're mostly bags of water, right? No. No, we're not. If I was to sit here and hold my breath, how long can I go without holding it? Like the best divers in the world is like 30 minutes or whatever. Those guys in Indonesia that go under the water, they go under for an hour or whatever and hunt. They can still only go an hour without air.

Unreal. So we got an hour, let's say a week to 10 days to like seven to 10 weeks. Okay. So now we know the order of magnitude. Now, interesting enough, when I started Eastern philosophy, the first step in changing your physiology, your brain state and your biochemistry is the breath. What's interesting is they don't start with the intake. They start with the exhale.

And the lymphatic system inside the body is three and a half times the blood system. I can burn variety of different fuels in my car for gas, but if I plug up the tailpipes, the exhaust doesn't come out. And in the toxic world, I wrote a book called Staying Alive in a Toxic World. And I recognize that all these toxins that we can't control are going into the system. So it's not so necessarily how much toxins we're taking in. That's a factor, but it's really how fast can we eliminate the toxins in our body? That's the big thing.

So I said air, water, and then there's another piece before we get to food. If you put a person in a bed or you put your leg in the cast, what happens? Atrophy. Right. Atrophies very, very quickly. Astronauts, that's a big deal when they go into space. The atrophy is significant. It's a huge issue. So we need stress on the system or the cell starts to contract, not have resistance. The cell comes up from, so guess what? Exercise is more important than food. So we go air, water,

Exercise. These three things are non-negotiable. Before people start doing anything else, start with those. And the first types of exercise, especially if you're really compromised, need to be focused on moving the lymphatic system. So that's walking and rebounding. Those are the best ways to detox the cells of my body using acceleration, deceleration, and gravity, which causes the contraction of every cell.

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my pancreas, my liver cells, my brain cells, my toe cells, my nose cells, all that sort of stuff is contracting, which is creating a pumping situation, which is pumping toxins out and bringing in nutrients. You get me excited about life. I want to go rebound right now. I just bought during the pandemic. I bought an 18 foot trampoline. I a huge one because I was like, okay, the little one's okay. But the big one, I haven't been on a big trampoline in forever. And I'm just like, totally re-experiencing the joy of bouncing.

It's exhilarating and every kid knows this. We tell the kids, stop jumping on the table, stop jumping on the couch, stop jumping on the bed, but they're actually doing the process of detoxification. Tell me a rebounder that you love that's good for home. I use David Hall's cellar sizer because it's portable. It folds all up in a little box and I can carry it. And it's made out of steel and it's super durable. And he's got the three stage springs and it's, I got it out in the sun here. It's indestructible. This is just a

really well, but there's other rebounders, know, the bellicon and the Reebok rebounder. Some of them are a little softer, a little smoother, but his is probably the most all purpose one, but do whatever one they want. Don't get a cheap one. A cheap one will cause shearing forces. Like you go the one at Walmart and all that sort of stuff. It's like 50 bucks or something. You'll damage your spine and your knees. Don't do that one. Go, go invest in a good one. So then I realized, okay, I studied two things in university, chemistry and physics. And what I found in

interesting point of chemistry that used to round off the chemical. still remember this. The equation wouldn't quite work, but then they would just round off the other elements. We're just going to forget about that. And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. if I did that in accounting, I go to jail. Okay. Like this is a crime. Like you, just can't fudge. I don't complete stuff. There's problems with that. Right. If I just don't put the nuts on the tires properly, the wheels fall off the car. So that doesn't make sense.

But I had an aptitude for physics and I learned that the entire universe is based on condensed light. It's vibration, it's frequency and amplitude and all these sort of things. So I looked at food. I looked at everything as information coming in, coming through, coming out of. And so we live in a solar system and everything is just condensed light. Light is both a wave and a particle. The table.

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Hardness is relative to the vibratory rate of that if you increase the vibratory rate through burning it it disappears if You condense it it gets harder. Mm-hmm, right? So how we see the world is solid liquid and gases are just different rates of vibration it's the same thing for our bodies or for our health and for our mind and so everything is information and including the Thoughts and feelings that you bring in from others which can affect you okay, and so I went for that then

This constitute, by the way, I created an acronym for people around, it's called the awesome acronym, air, water, exercise, sunlight. And the next thing is optimizers. What are the things that optimize the cellular function? Enzymes, probiotics, essential amino acids, vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids and herbs. Those are the things that the body requires. Those will optimize cellular function. None of this works if you have a bad belief system. It doesn't work if your psychology are not willing to take ownership of your health.

So mental beliefs and attitudes really important. So you need to have the right attitude and the right mentality, the ability to be open, the willing to follow coaching, that stuff. And it's like, coaching, God, how do you figure this all out? How did I figure it out? I got coaches. And how do you get coaches? Well, you get coaches because you learn from a coach. And what is the primary component of education? Well, I looked at the root word. What is the root word of education? It's a deuce, comes from Latin. And if you look at the definition in it, it says to learn from within. Well, how do you learn within? You run a test.

Test could be, I walk up the stairs or hold up a mirror. Right. That's a test. I don't like how I look. You know, I can't run very fast on a treadmill. You know what? I did a genetic test and there's some mutations that I need to address. How do you interpret data that you don't know into something that you do know? You get a coach, you get an expert, you get an informer, you get a teacher. That led to the E, et cetera. So the whole philosophy comes.

Air, water, exercise, sunlight, optimizers, mental beliefs and attitude, education, testing, culture, which create the awesome acronym. And I created a course. It took everything that I learned from all that and condensed it into 84, five to 15 minute videos where I share where I learned it, where I got it, who's the references. And I put them on our website and I give them away to

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the listeners of this podcast for free because I can't coach everybody in the world. love coaching people. was my passion. It was Matt's passion. We loved helping people. We got totally addicted to seeing people transform. We created a company that we never wanted to get away from our roots. We never compromise our mission for margin. We have a formula one philosophy, which means that we test things at an extreme level like race car drivers.

A lot of things fail. We're willing to break ourselves down. We're willing to get ourselves fat. We're willing to get ourselves sick. We're willing to go through bad experiments in order to find the nuggets of gold. And that's how we have like power steering. And that's how we have better braking systems and better engine system technology, because people are willing to put there. And then we learn from that and we apply it to the regular life with those people having to put themselves at risk. And then we created an education system that we teach people how to create a philosophy that actually works for their lives.

How to select the right coaches, the Jedi Council, as we said, the people that are gonna give you the inference to run the corporation of your life as a CEO. You're the CEO of your health. So a CEO has accounting teams, has sales teams, he has marketing teams, he has operations teams, he has logistics, he has all these people that come and tell him what's going on and he makes decisions and that's how we need to look at health. Not one authority, you need a whole team of people and you gather them over time and by doing that.

We give that away to people because you look you can't supplement your way out of a bad lifestyle. You just can't I have a supplement company the supplements augment and accelerate both the optimization of the cells or the recovery from the lifestyle I subject myself to I did a post this morning. I hadn't eaten 36 hours. I got up in the morning and I got on the attack bike. I went sprinting for 10 minutes on my thing doing

things, jumped on the rebounder, jumped up and down for 20 minutes dancing to some great music, right? Walked down to Bulletproof, said hello to a couple of my friends, walked down the beach, came in and been running ever since. And I do this every other day during this experiment. I go 36 hour periods without eating. I'll go up on the gym, I'll do a weight workout, I'll train, no food. Right? We have this ability. I want people to understand you have the ability to walk hundreds of miles without food.

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You have the ability to kill wild animals with a stick. You have the ability to overcome huge obstacles in your business, in your life, in your personal region. You have communication powers, you have information. And suddenly we have outsourced all of this awesomeness, all of this power, all of this capability to externalize people who are telling us to worry about an invisible thing that's gonna kill everybody and ruin our lives. That's a

very, very dangerous belief system. Very, very dangerous because we are turning over our authority to other people. And when you do that, you turn over your life. The power that we have inside is not realized, you know, it's, to a fraction of our potential. Your life force, you know, you can feel it. It's visceral. It's exciting.

Here's what I would offer people. The people that you're following and accepting information as truth from, know, listen to their vibration. Listen to how they're showing up. Listen to their words. Listen to the passion behind their words. I want my leadership to come from a passionate, passionate speaker. And maybe that's because I have a background in performing and I understand what it is to be an orator, but God, I want your words to resonate truth.

And that comes from your life force. That comes from digesting foods. That comes from enzymatic activity in the body. That comes from heart. So I would just offer, know, anybody listening to this podcast, if you're following somebody that's not inspiring you and not getting you up off the chair to pump your fists, go look somewhere else because there's plenty of people out there that are living their truth. They're walking the walk. They're eating the way they're supposed to eat. They're living the lifestyle.

I mean, you can pick that anytime you listen to you talk on any show. Wait, you're like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You're like, I'm on fire. I like being alive. I mean, it's so funny. The people that have platforms, whether it's political or health or entertainment industry that I just don't, I don't get that from, you know, and I think it's so important. It's so important. You know, we need to live in integrity. need to show up and integrity. And for me, that's why I wanted you on the podcast. That's it.

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Plain and simple. Well, thank you. And everything that we kind of enjoy, like, and here's the thing we've we've created a society of containment to people. we were children, we ran and we looked at the grass and we smelt the flowers and we stared at the bugs and we got fascinated with the world. And then we went into school and someone told us to sit at a desk and someone told us that we needed to learn this and we needed to learn that. And we learned about things in books.

but we didn't go and we start shutting down our sensory experience, our emotional awareness to listen to this person so that I would get a mark. And if I didn't follow that system, what would happen? I go to detention. I'm being excommunicated. You're a bad person. You're stupid. You're not paying attention. You got ADD. How many people are going through life thinking that they're broken? They're not broken.

The system of authority that is contracting you as a human is broken and it's time to break out of it. And people go, well, it's risky to go against what the group think is. Yes. But if the group is running off the cliff to a pied piper, the riskiest thing to do is to follow the crowd. And Joseph Goebbels, maybe one of the most evil manipulators in history, leveraged a book called Propaganda.

And he said, if you tell a lie big enough that you would not dare tell a lie that big and then you broadcast that lie over and over and over and over again, people will take it as a truth that plunged the world into an entire war. The world right now is shut down because of very shoddy science and a very poor situation and a continually moving set of goalposts that nobody can agree to.

Nobody can adhere to and there's no limit to it Therefore the chances that this is a lot of bs topped on top of this i'm not saying there isn't a virus i'm not saying that's the case i'm not saying That you shouldn't practice health things But I really think we ought to think about when we condemn others for having a different opinion than our souls I think it's really sick that we have divided families because people vote for a different party

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We have moved away. We can't go to churches anymore. We can't gather in large groups anymore. There is a movement to take away our weapons, which were put in by the founding fathers to prevent tyranny of governments. Thomas Jefferson, I'm a Canadian. I don't get the both. Thomas Jefferson said, liberty is bathed in the blood of patrons and tyrants every 50 years. That's the historical aspects of it. Now I'm not calling for civil war or anything.

What I'm calling is for civil disobedience. The movement that Martin Luther King found, the movement that Mahatma Gandhi found to transform the You don't have to hurt people. You just have to say, no, that's a stupid rule. I'll choose freedom. And those who choose security over liberty deserve neither. That was also written by one of the founding fathers. Look, we're on this planet. We're gonna leave. We're all gonna die. Every one of us. Sooner, maybe today.

Maybe next week, maybe in 100 years, maybe in 20 years. We don't know. We're gonna leave. We're all gonna go. We're gonna go. All of us. The question is, when you get to your life where you were worried about how secure you treated your life, you know, I'm so happy. I never took a risk in my life. I lived in a life and I did everything that I was told to do. And, you know, I'm a good person. I can tell you, I've sat with too many people on their deathbed who were too young really to die.

both old, middle age and young. I sat at their deathbed and I talked to them and I asked them the questions that they have in that moment. I learned this when I was 15 talking to my sister about her terminal illness. And it's not the things that you do in life that people are upset about, not the mistakes, not the failed components, nothing. You know what it is? It's the things that you didn't do. And the reality is when tyranny comes knocking at your door, what will you tell your kids or grandkids?

that you did. Yeah, I think what you said in relation to, you know, we're in this world where the most important thing that I think right now, because everything you just said resonates with me. I also, you know, I also want to see and envision and hold a path through where we can get through. And I think the most important thing is the idea we have to respect each and every individual's

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Right to have a belief system and to have a different opinion and to have a different set of values. That's what the whole country is based on. And it's led to an extraordinary. It's led to prosperity all over the world. It's led to art and literature and culture and music and prosperity and technology and science because of the value that's existed, which has never existed. It is so fragile and easily taken in the history of the world.

The history of the world is the history of psychopaths trying to take over the rest of the world and fighting against some other psychopaths says no, I'm going to take over. That's history. That hasn't changed. And here's the thing. Look, policies can only take you so far. Responsibility for oneself and oneself alone and maybe the dependents that you have who do not have the ability to

think logically or rationally understand consequences until they become an adult. That's why we have minors and your job is not to make your kids like you is your job is to get them to do a set of components so that they can deal with the world. You do not want your kids running the show and there's a lot of kids running the show in this country. Children who are bickering and arguing and taking political positions and politicizing medical stuff. You cannot trust these people.

You cannot trust people on the left. You cannot trust people on the right. You cannot trust the pharmaceutical industrial complex. You cannot trust them that the military industrial complex, you cannot trust a society that says you can't go to church, but you can go to a bar. You can't go to a gym, but you can go to a shop and get alcohol or marijuana. doesn't make any logical sense. It make sense, does it? It doesn't make sense. if it doesn't make sense, what does that mean? It's a falsehood.

Now what degree of falsehood? It's very hard to tell because, you know, truth is like light. It comes in the full spectrum of the rainbow. Truth is relative to different states. What is true when you're 10 is not true when you're 20, which is not true when you're 40, which is not true when you're 60. There's variance of degrees of truth. Falsehood is the absence of truth. And when you have a pervasiveness of falsehood, the natural result is war.

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the conflict between truth and falsehood, the conflict between good and evil, the contrast between dark and light. And it's part of what makes this human existence vibrant and enjoyable and exciting. You know, I watched the UFC. Why? Because I'm seeing two guys and I might think that one guy's on the light and the other guy's on the dark, but it's an encounter and somebody wins. And what's, what's amazing about it at the end of a good UFC fight between two great competitors is after they battered each other's a bit, they walk up and hug each other.

because they say, guess what, thank you. I honor you as my opponent because you have honed me and allowed me to reach out my best part. And I do believe there is an opportunity with this crisis that's happening. I'm not saying that people haven't died. I'm not saying there isn't a virus. I'm not saying those things. But what I'm saying is I'm hoping that people take from this, that you cannot outsource your health.

You are the authority over your body. And when somebody impairs you from following the path that you see best to produce health, then you need to get that person out of your life and you need to rebel against that in that aspect. Not in a violent way, just in a like, Hey man, that's your program. Somebody wants to go to the hospital and take pharmaceutical drugs or go to the doctor and get on 17 different prescriptions. I'm okay with that. That's their choice. Who am I to say that they shouldn't do that?

Who am I to tell that person that they shouldn't take those 17 prescriptions? I can present an option that they might be able to get off some of them or maybe even all of them, but they're going to have to do the work. can't do the work for them. I can only offer options. And the beauty of a democratic Republic that which we find ourselves in is that you have a vast array of options in life. And I don't have to hate chocolate to love vanilla. I can just like chocolate better than vanilla. Maybe one day I like vanilla.

The other day I like chocolate. I don't have to hate what I see as an opposite or something in opposition. But why do people feel that way? Because deep down inside they're fearful and they're fearful because they're saying there's something that's not right in the world. There's some kind of, being lied to, I'm under threat, I'm feeling security because everything that allows me to feel secure has been taken away from me. And that creates an anxiety when people are anxious.

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or people are in a state of distress, they produce dis-ease. And there's a lot of dis-ease in our societies today. And so the reality is, I can't change the world. What I did is I got myself a bio here, home here. I got four floors of glory. We got food in the place. We got exercise in the place. We got my work in my place. I'm ready to stay here and camp out. I'm in lockdown here at California. Can't go to the gym. I built one. Can't go to the office.

I built one. Can't grow my own food. Can't get the food I want. Grow it. Can't get the supplements I need because the soil is deficient. Made the minerals. We have this ability. The people that founded this country, they were farmers, they were politicians, they were military leaders, they were inventors, they were philosophers. Did we get so stupid so sudden that we can't do all these things? Of course we can. But we got to give up comfort and we got to give up entertainment.

I want to be entertained. I want to eat chips. And then I want to like blame somebody else for the problems in my life. The unintended consequences of technological innovation is we become observers of life instead of participants. We've become condemners of that which is different instead of curious kids saying, hey, how do you do that? We've become followers instead of leaders. And we've become attackers.

instead of connectors. And our job is to connect with people. know how many people scream at me on a given day because I'm walking down the street in the sunshine without a mask? Probably happens to me every day. Yet I go down here to all the homeless situation, which is a crisis of mental health, anything else. And I see all these homeless people living out there, interacting, they have terrible food, they're on drugs, and they're not dying of this virus. Why?

So I always believe study outliers. When you study outliers, that's where the breakthroughs are. Why does that person run so fast? Why does that person have so much health? Why does that person have so much energy? And when you start studying those, when you study what it is that you want, or study that which opposes your own beliefs, you experience the discovery in life. And that's what makes life when you're five years old,

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staring at that four leaf clover. Wow, look at this mom. Look at this clover I got. A clover becomes the excitement of the day. And there's so much excitement and so much richness and so much opportunity for all of us. It's just extraordinary. And like embrace it. And I get up every day and I think about that and I give gratitude for what I have and the things that people have done in the 10,000 generations.

that sailed on ships that were infected with disease and starvation and scurrying landed here and had to chop down trees and fight off wild animals. There was no stores. There was no Instacart. There was no Amazon. There was no internet. There was no power. There was no cars. There was no roads. And yet somehow these people scratched out. They went over and people lived even generations before they lived in caves and fought off bears and hunted wooly mammoths and walked across the savanna and picked berries.

and did extraordinary things. And all of us are the product of that. It's in your DNA, it's in my DNA, it's in everybody listening to this. We have this ability and my thing is, is wake up, activate it. So incredible. It's awesome. Yeah. You know, one thing you said, it's like, is you walk out in your environment and you meet adversity and you do have people challenging, you know, your belief systems. And it's so easy. It's so easy to always view evil on the outside or view

You know, the challenge it's outside of me. But what I would offer people again and again is that there is no good movie, no good play, no good story is anything without a foil. Like we need, this is, it's my belief, you know, that we're human, we're having this human experience and it's okay if it's a little dramatic. I love the drama. We can welcome this experience that you're offered a foil in your story to experience growth, right?

And that the idea that, like you said, it's like, all the problems are outside of you and me. Then the solutions are outside of you and me. But if I can entertain the idea that evil and good move right through this human being, that I can work with that now, today. And if I can heal myself, we've heard, how many great people have said that? Till this pandemic, I really didn't understand it to this level. If I can heal myself, I can heal the world.

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And in fact, that's all we're responsible. I'm only responsible for healing myself and any dependence I might have upon me who do not have the ability to do so for themselves. That's it. And I have a moral and an ethical duty. And I do believe a biological duty if we want the species to continue on to do those things, because I'm here because of what my ancestors did. And the generations to come will be here because of what we do. And you need to do that to the passion that you are.

And I do believe that if you offer solutions that are better than the ones in the past, that can be universally accepted ultimately, because they are in alignment with what's good and what's wholesome and what's valuable. They will at first come up with extraordinary resistance. Then they will eventually become accepted and embraced. Wade, it is an absolute pleasure to have you on the podcast. I would love to have you on again. There's like 200 topics we could go deep on.

And I'll give people a link where they can jump in. First of all, everybody's, you've got to get over to the site and you've got to just dip your toe in the water of the education that this company is offering for free and dip your toe in the water of if anybody out there is listening to this, and you're like, my digestion is not as optimal as I know it could be. I'm not eliminating the way I'm supposed to be eliminating if I'm not sleeping well, you know, like

Wade offered, take a look at what's not working. Look at your minerals, look at your hydration. I've never seen a person who's been hydrated well in all my years of coaching, ever, ever. You can drink all the water if you want. If the water's not structured, if it doesn't have the right minerals, if it doesn't have the right light, because we're light beings, it's not gonna work well with the light body. These are all things you can look at and learn about. I think Wade, you would agree with me on this, that before you just go start buying anything,

Do the reading first. Educate yourself on how the body works. Look at the system that Wade put together. Awesome. You know, look at the pyramid and then think about where do I want to start? Where do I want to dip my toe in the water? Because I promise you, you can feel better. The resources are there and the sense of overwhelm has been solved by people like Wade, by people like myself. We're putting together platforms so you can sort through the piles of crap information and you can make a better choice on your life.

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Wade, I got to ask you this final parting question, although you've kind of answered it in many of your rants here. It's been so good. If you had a magic wand and you could gift the human race a level of awareness, what would that level of awareness, what would it focus on? Discernment. Discernment is the ability to sort the truth that's right for you. And that is the earmark of wisdom.

And it is a very difficult and elusive piece to get. But if you have discernment, then you inherently understand both the opportunity of choices that you have as well as the consequences of those choices, both positive and negative. And if you could have discernment for everyone, we would eliminate conflict. Let's hold that. Let's hold the space for discernment for the human race. I love it.

Wade, it's been an absolute honor. I can't wait till we can meet at a live event. Hey, you know, I got all kinds of things happening. So when you come out to California, come over to the Bio Home. We'll hack it up, optimize it up and have a great time. Thank you so much, Wade. Thanks so much. Have a great day. Ladies and gentlemen, you made it to the end of the podcast and here we are at season two. I think this is the beginning of something really beautiful. So one way to support the podcast

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To treat any medical condition in yourself or others, always consult your physician for any medical issues that you might be having. That's it for today. Our closing, the world is hurting. We need you at your very best. So take the steps today to always be upgrading. Remember, while life is pain, putting the fractured pieces back together is a beautiful process. I love you.