Young Goose Secrets: NAD, Skincare, and the Science of Longevity with Amitay Eshel

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Beautifully Broken Podcast.
1:33
I'm here with my good friend Amitai.
How are you?
Very good.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Great being here.
It's been so long since I wanted to have you on and here we are now.
I will say we are in West Palm Beach.
There's people walking down a hallway behind us.
1:51
We're at Eudaimonia.
It's a Wellness festival in West Palm.
We're really encompassing this idea of purpose and health and holism.
We're tying it all together.
And Amitai is here.
He is my expert skin care guru.
Above all things, you know about health of the skin.
2:08
If we bumped into each other in Whole Foods and I were to say, what do you do?
What would you tell me?
I aim to slow, stop and reverse skin aging.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
And have you always had this mission in your life?
2:24
No.
So in short, I was in the red light therapy space and we were kind of the first company trying to introduce, you know, low level lasers, red light to consumers.
That was a long, long time ago.
Yeah.
And the idea around like changing the lives with something that changes the appearance or improves the appearance came because we tried to settle.
2:47
And I'm sure you have had a lot of conversations around red light therapy.
You're trying to explain the people that's going to improve anything from your their circulation of paint, acute, mental, acute to, you know, really anything because it is a component of life and it doesn't always register.
3:02
And when you tell them they're going to look better, there is a shift in their listening in the way that they receive that information.
And for me, that was the first time that I realized that you can achieve success in communication as far as like improvement of health through something that people have their ego attached to.
3:21
To me since then, you know, my ego is attached to more to like my athletic performance or I don't know, to the way that people perceive if I'm intelligent or not.
But that's still ego.
And you need to know where you're motivated from and to and without judgement.
3:39
Some people it is the way that they are presenting themselves physically to the world and and that is as good of a focal point as any to affect someone's overall health.
Yeah, I'm so unattached, you know, I'm really interested in getting people in the door.
I want to help.
But if I were to put up a sign and I were to say, my joke is that if I ever made a storefront, it would be move pain free or come here for weight loss.
4:06
Because as long as I get you in the door, then I'm going to talk about heart centered mission.
I'm gonna talk about language, relationship quality.
We could go on and on and on.
You might have weight loss as a result of all the things that we're gonna work on.
I'm so unattached.
4:22
So in your experience in the red light industry, I just didn't think we're gonna go here, but I'd love your opinion.
How much impact can you make with a red light technology dependent on its quality and efficacy versus something like a serum or a cream or a supplement?
4:39
Well, it's an awesome question and I would argue that if you had made a difference, it would be coming from the same set of the mechanistic effects or mechanistic modulation, which is mitochondria driven and also the ability of cells to access useful information that's on a deep level.
4:59
So basically saying, you know, red light therapy in short, improves energy production, improves blood circulation.
And also we can argue that it structures water and other things, but if you think about and obviously deals with oxidative stress, actually moves it around if you would, which actually yields positive results.
5:20
Very similar things could be done with a serum.
I mean, sunblock is slightly different in a different conversation.
And one would argue it's not, you know, skin care, you know, something that's on the skin like a block, but as far as like positively impacting skin products that would come from the same place, useful function and stimulation for repair.
5:39
Red light does it.
I think red light is the maybe something people buy, should buy before they invest in skin care products.
And the reason is, it's because you buy it one time, hopefully for a lifetime, but at least for 5-10 years.
And the amount of nitric oxide and ATP and other molecules that you're going to invest 10s of thousands of dollars in order to introduce into your skin, you could do with the $500,000 panel that you never have to repurchase.
6:08
I would say at least you don't have to repurchase for a long time.
So I don't know if it answers the question but.
Certainly, no.
I mean, I would just join with you in saying that I have an aesthetician I work with in in Austin, TX who's always like she's like, and I tell her I was like, she's like, what are you doing for sunblock?
6:25
And I don't use any at this time.
I do believe I should and in the morning I do 10 to 15 minutes in front of my full body red light panel front. 15 I know I I watch your stories.
You watch me naked on Instagram and I do the front, I do the back and I have not sunburned.
6:43
I live in Austin, TX, I'm from upstate New York and I'm very, I'm not a dark skinned human being, but it's made an impact in how my body responds to the sun.
And so my understanding is that with the red light, I'm charging my cells, there's more energy, they're more resilient to damage.
6:59
So I think I'm doing something there.
Are you a person who believed because you have beautiful skin, your wife has beautiful skin, we're gonna get into your, your skin care line.
Are you someone who wears sunblock?
First of all, you're correct and you're doing something that is congruent with the human body.
7:16
Sunblock is not.
I'm gonna answer your question.
I do put sunblock and I think it's important, but it is not congruent with the way we have evolved to deal with the sun.
If you think about it, there is no function in our body that builds a sun.
Calais, by the way, is, is a myth.
It doesn't exist.
7:31
It's, you know, your pigment is your sunblock of sorts.
But really what happens is sun creates or UV radiation creates free radicals.
Your body then is good or bad at dealing with the free radicals.
7:47
It's imperfect because we're not meant to live forever.
And this UV also causes mutation in your DNA that are very hard to mitigate with just managing your body's ability to deal with oxidative stress.
But that's really what you're doing when you're using red light therapy.
8:04
By the way, even if you use that is where the only maybe connection that near infrared and red have with far infrared which both improve your response to oxidative stress.
That's if anyone wants to look at a study, it's called the triangle of reactive ox or Ros of reactive oxygen species, facial rejuvenation in the triangle of reactive oxygen species, Great study.
8:28
There is another study, by the way, from the University of Yonsei in Korea looking at pigmentation and obviously adverse sun effect, UV damage effects and exposing ourselves to red light therapy before going out to the sun.
And what you are feeling as a person is actually proven scientifically again.
8:46
But I do think that you should get plenty of sunlight.
I think the areas that are usually exposed to a lot of different environmental stressors, whether it is blue light.
So blue light is as adversely affecting your mitochondria is red and near infrared are affecting your mitochondria positively.
9:06
So imagine right now we are exposed to blue light and we will be for the next 8 hours.
So imagine how negatively impactful that is to your mitochondria as opposed to like a 20 minute red light therapy session, right?
But you're only exposed, you know where you are exposed right there, your face, your arms.
9:23
So those are not good areas to then expose to the sun.
If you want to get good results, you want to expose your areas that are normally hidden.
And the same thing I could say about anything from EMF to pollution to heavy metals to lyphosates that you know, really any type of like mitochondrial disruptor or cellular function disruptor.
9:41
So I would say those areas should be protected by more than just your biology.
And then when you do go to the sun, you should do it with areas that are, I would say, more effective at dealing with that damage or less disrupted.
9:58
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.
Just for the audience at home, when we talk about the body having a negative impact from blue light, what are the primary sources that blue light is coming from in this artificial environment that we live in and all the modern ease that comes with technology design?
10:16
By the way, blue light obviously is a spectrum in the sun.
You get it from the sun, but that is not the blue light that we are actually talking about.
We are talking about what is called high energy visible light, which is normally from, you know, light bulbs, but significantly more from screens and you know, your phone, computer, things like that, that has, you know, a very odd ratio of blue to other Spectra of light and it doesn't have near far infrared spectrum.
10:46
That kind of balances out it out a little bit.
So we now there are now studies showing like pigmentation from like taking selfies, you know?
Oh my goodness, yeah.
So that's just like an idea as far as like why blue light is unhealthy.
11:02
It curbs mitochondrial function.
Yeah.
It also produces oxidative stress even from bacteria.
So the reason it is good for acne is because it produces oxidative stress, which kills bacteria.
The bacteria itself produces an oxygen singlet that destroys it.
11:18
But you know, in access that also effects our skin.
Now I'll just say when you do use blue light for acne, you shouldn't actually use it together with red light.
You're kind of counteracting.
Yeah, those.
You should probably separate those.
Yeah, So interesting.
And then I know there's multiple products online right now that you can use support at a very intense blue light spectrum for acne.
11:40
There are studies to support that.
And at the same time as we're killing those bacteria that are creating an environment for acne, I imagine that we're impacting some of the beneficial bacteria as well.
Yeah.
So the spectrum that is used for anti acne bacteria is specifically to be absorbed by P acne bacteria.
12:03
OK, not saying that it, you know, the photon is so smart that the light particles so smart that it says no, no, no, I'm going to only be exposed or only be absorbed by P acne bacteria.
No, but other bacteria are more absorbent of other parts of the spectrum.
12:20
But to the most part it affects very specific colony or very specific strains and the acne bacteria are one of them.
And it doesn't necessarily affect the entire Organism.
Having said that again, it does affect the mitochondria negatively.
12:38
You don't want to use blue light Willy nilly.
Even if you have acne like there are.
There is a drawback.
You're paying something.
Got it.
It's so fascinating all the ways in which we can work with the body and the cells and the mitochondria.
But I want to come back to this idea of when we're supporting the energy of the cell.
12:56
Everything's improving.
So you said you started in red light and then you've moved into a supplementation company for the skin.
How is the health of our skin?
OK.
That's a great question.
And I think the easiest, the lowest hanging fruit is actually detoxification.
13:15
So if your skin doesn't detoxify well, you are going to suffer.
One of the reasons by the way, that chemical SPF sunblock is not good for you is because it actually impedes some of the detoxification of the skin.
But that's a really low hanging fruit and we kind of know that we need detoxification.
13:33
We can support it by again, like sauna, red light helps as well.
There are a few things we can do, but another thing that is less known is the accumulation of cellular debris and senescent cells in the skin that then affects your brain and the rest of the body.
13:52
And that's something that these are newer series of studies, mainly out of Portugal that really speak to the health of the skin as an information relaying organ to the brain.
OK, OK, so imagine we use our eyes and our sense of smell.
14:11
It's very understandable how these relay information to the brain.
They are the messengers of the environment to the brain and vice versa.
But your skin is another communication organ.
So your skin can actually sense stresses from the environment.
And it does have a direct pathway to the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis, which the kind of that is the Center for stress interpretation in the brain.
14:33
It's called the skin brain axis in what happens when we have inflammation in general, but also mouth.
Basically senescent cells are zombie cells that produce inflammation in the form of secretory phenotypes of those cells.
So we can they can infect other cells.
14:50
That's why they're called zombie cells.
They can actually send those signals down that skin brain access and actually inflamed and stress out our brain, which in turn some people claim it like changes brain size, stuff like that.
But really what it does, it then disrupts the stress response and the perception of stress throughout our body.
15:13
And if you have ever watched a president after four years in office or eight years in office, they don't look too good after they're stressed.
I mean, that's stress is one of the major aging drivers of our body as a whole.
So by managing those types of malfunctioning processes, senescence is one of them.
15:35
But you know, the lack of self, self communication, many also basically all of the hallmarks of aging.
By managing them and making sure that we mitigate a lot of their effects in the skin, we actually then mitigate a lot of the effects that in fact this cascade of metabolic events that would age your body as a whole.
15:56
Fascinating.
I had no idea that my skin health had the possibility to impact cognitive function.
It makes a lot of sense for me.
I have had people, I've, I've heard people regurgitate this fact that if you get rid of all your body hair, that the body has a different reactivity with outside world, which makes a lot of sense.
16:17
Body hair is picking up sound.
It's a, if you've ever felt the hair stand on up in your arm and you get this alert response that makes a lot of sense to me.
Now I've joined with you in the fact that the skin is what we would say in biological medicine is a primary among 3.
16:32
So it's a primary pathway for something other than self to leave the body.
So I know it's important.
I know it's not just about up here on my grill.
I have seen that.
I'm sure you've seen this image.
There's this very either a cab driver or a truck driver.
She, she always had her left window open.
16:49
So one side of her face is like, it looks like Darth Vader.
It looks not cute.
So no bueno, no bueno.
So I know the role also that when the milieu, when the internal environment is not nourished, that our skin is highly susceptible to some damage.
17:07
So can you tell me, in your pivot to skin care, what are some of the most important components you've seen to add in to a daily regimen?
Do you mean externally or as far as diet?
Externally.
OK.
17:22
I think the most.
So it's like if we go to 1st principles like what do we lose?
What do we lack?
Because really what we think of aging, especially in the skin is the accumulation of unrepaired damage.
That's really if you think of what aging is or how you how our body experiences aging.
17:38
It is every time there is damage and it is not being repaired.
So the two most impactful molecules that you could have are the primary molecules for repair processes in the body, NAD, the boosting NAD and boosting NAD sounds easier than it is, but proper NAD.
17:56
So NAD precursors, the ability to recycle NAD and you can do that by using nano sized precursors.
We at Young Goose use them.
I'm sure other companies are going to find ways to do it as well by now.
Other companies use adjacent molecules that are not that great, but I'm sure there will be companies doing that soon.
18:16
That's number one.
And there is a patent called Rejuve NAD that helps you recycle NAD.
It's not our patent.
We're actually working on integrating it into our skin care and it's a pretty small Swiss manufacturer.
So I don't actually know who else is using it.
18:32
Maybe from this podcast, other companies are going to use it, but these are two good pathways that kind of use.
And the second or maybe the most important is autophagy.
So for now, we know spermidine is incredible to trigger autophagy to the extent, by the way, new research is going to come out showing that even in the DNA expression of autophagy, you need to have sufficient spermidine.
18:56
So it's not only triggering autophagy, which is cellular recycling, the recycling of malfunctioning cells or their parts to newer cells.
So it will affect, you know, senescence.
So NAD and sperm together cover the entire gamut of the 12 hallmarks of agent.
19:12
OK.
So these two are, in my opinion, the most important molecules you could apply on your skin.
If you don't want to use our skin care, that's not why we started the company to push it down everyone's throat.
So if you don't want to do it, you want to take your NAD, NMN or NR supplements.
19:32
And if it's not in a rigid, if it's not in a condensed form tablet, you just want to pour it into your cream and pour some spermidine into your cream and mix it together.
Not sure it's the best user experience, but you could do that.
But in my opinion, these are the two most important.
19:48
Do you say with cream because it's fat soluble?
Actually, so the NAD in and on its own is not fat soluble because it's not liposomal.
If you have your liposomol version, yes, but it is carried well enough.
20:07
If you mix it immediately and you don't let it degrade, it is carried well enough to be absorbed.
Celvio spermating like a full spectrum spermating is fat soluble.
Some of the synthetic versions are de fatted and they're not.
20:25
That's a whole different story.
Look for natural sources of spermidine, ones that are not.
It's exactly like NAD one, actually.
The precursors, yeah.
So the real impactful molecules are ones that turn into spermidine, not necessarily spermidine.
So I'll ask you only because I'm sure there's going to be people who have never heard of NAD and never heard of spermidine.
20:46
So just if we just just 30 seconds nicotine, adenosine dinucleotide.
Nicotenamide Adenosine dinucleotide.
That was close.
Yeah.
Give me the elevator pitch on why NAD is important and why we need it for anti aging.
The currency of repairing the body, that's what it is.
21:01
I take it away from you, you're dead in 30 seconds.
NAD is so.
It is what helps us create energy.
It allows energy creation and 600 repair processes in the body.
All the repair processes rely on NAD as a coenzyme, not even for the energy part, as a potentiator.
21:18
They won't work if they don't have enough NAD.
That includes the DNA repair.
That includes everything that's an AD Spermatine is a fasting mimetic.
It tricks cells to think you're fasting and we know that when you're fasting cells instead of like going crazy and splitting and making mistakes, they go back and they fix what's wrong.
21:37
They recycle the, you know, malfunctioning parts.
If the cell isn't functioning correctly, the body can recognize it.
Then what is out of phase G self eating it can kind of recycle it.
So these two together are the currency and the potential repair and the trigger for recycling and repair.
21:52
So.
Yeah, it's such great information.
The Ned conversation has been around.
I've had Don Moxley on.
We've talked about spermidine.
The only other thing I want to revisit is senescent cells, because I think that's really interesting.
22:08
We've not done a deep dive on senescence.
You've said zombie cells, tell me a little bit more about what that looks like in the body and why it's something we should focus on as far as anti aging and health.
So I'm going to say something that I think would interest even people who heard about senescent cells.
Senescent was born in the body as a pro longevity process.
22:28
So we know that if we take mice and we can eliminate the senescent process, they die very early, OK?
Because senescence is basically the body's ability to halt the growth of cells that have completely no idea what they're doing, cells that have lost all their genetic information as far as like, how to behave properly.
22:48
So it's basically a cell jail, OK?
Cells can do two things, multiply and die.
And if they lose the ability, the knowledge on how to die, because that's part of their information of what they need to do.
Cell knows, oh, I need to do 1-2 and three and then I die.
23:05
Okay.
If they don't know how to die, the body has a solution, a compromise where it says, you know what, okay, don't die, but go there and just don't best with any other cells.
B in cell jail.
B in cell jail.
Yeah.
The problem is that it screams out of that jail and that that's what we call it, zombie cells.
23:23
It's because they kind of don't know what they're doing, but also they can infect other cells.
So cells work on inertia.
Our body works on inertia.
Life works on inertia.
Inertia stops.
Someone did their heart stops.
You know for see for a while that you cannot recreate that inertia.
23:39
So cells work on inertia once they're alive and they have the inertia to propel themselves forward.
It's not like they stop.
So all they create though is a senescence.
Cells is an inflammatory signal that we call SASP, which is the type of inflammatory signal that then disrupts other cells and actually drives them into senescence.
24:04
Yeah.
So that is why we call it zombie cells.
We can really imagine cells that don't function correctly and are left behind and they're like zombies.
So they slow down the whole system, they create damage, they create stress and they accumulate.
And one thing that I would say the more time.
24:21
So obviously we have a new liver every two to three years, but we have a new half a new heart every 25 years.
We have a new skin layer every if you're young, 14, if you're old, 28 days.
Why am I saying all of that?
It's because cells divide or they kind of multiply in different rates.
24:41
The more cells need to divide and multiply, the more mistakes there are, the more senescent cells you're going to find in that tissue.
Skin is obviously very prone to senescence because of that, but also because the skin is inundated with interference from the environment.
24:57
It even has more than that.
So that is why the skin specifically is a very problematic organ.
As far as the the senescent burden, it applies on the body.
Yeah, it's fascinating conversation to have, which I didn't anticipate my brain go well because a lot of times you think skin, you think aesthetics, beauty, not always longevity, health, almost a shield from the environment that does really bear the brunt of a lot of these environmental toxins.
25:31
Interface, you know, we can go on and on and on, especially again, we have a lot of modern luxuries and there is a cost to whatever we could, you know, from EMF to interference to flying 3 * a month, right, Radiation exposure.
25:48
It's so important.
Now, when you started out with a skin line and you knew there were things you wanted to include as an entrepreneur, how did you learn about formulation ratios?
I mean, I could only imagine you can probably slather a lot of stuff in a bottle and push it all over your face and maybe not get the desired results.
26:07
Well, we say in Hebrew, it's a great question actually.
We say in Hebrew, when money meets experience, experience leaves with the money and the money leaves with experience.
So it was really passion to create the most efficacious products through research as well.
26:28
And that is really how you learn what works and what not.
You know, you don't want to make more mistakes, cost you more money.
You want to hire the right people.
You want to be interested and passionate about what you are doing because the only you would care about your product as much as the product deserves.
26:46
No one else does.
You know, even if they think they do, they don't.
So true.
So it's funny because people think that they find something that they love and then do it for a living and then it's not working.
In my opinion, I think it's hard to find something that you like off the bat and that never gives you like bad vibes, like things won't go wrong.
27:06
I think you either.
You're you're the one lucky person in the world.
And these are unfortunately the people that then regurgitate it.
But I think most of the time you need to teach yourself how to love what you're doing.
Yeah.
You need to have a conversation with yourself and say, if I'm not going to be enthralled, passionate, you know, obsessed with this, this is not going to get the attention and the success that it deserves.
27:28
And I mean, I've had in my journey times when I wasn't like that.
And I've learned my lesson.
And by the time Yang Goose came about, especially when we had to launch an actual product, because when it's research, it's fun and you know, things don't go wrong because everything is hypothetical.
27:45
But when we had to launch a product, that's when the rubber met the road.
That's when I understood I need to stop.
I'll give you an example.
I need to stop smoking weed.
I need to stop other hobbies that are the only thing I have left is jujitsu really, which I am addicted to.
28:01
But everything else which would put me in danger out of, you know, sync out of whatever it needs to stop.
And I need to become the person that is obsessed with the product, with people's, by the way, with people's life results, not only their skin, but how do I create the best results for the person who uses the product as a whole?
28:25
That's why podcasts are like, we have a biohacking beauty, you know, podcast that you definitely should be on and yes, sounds good.
The whole podcast is not to talk about skin here or now.
People ask questions, so we do, but it's to create the best functioning human beings that will then if they use our products or not, they would have the best skin that they can have so.
28:50
We're learning dramatically impacts other areas of our health.
When you first lost your company, I would love to know when that was.
What was your launch date 'cause I know we met very early on.
We met in the fall of 2021 in Miami at an event.
29:07
I would love to know when you launched and has anything stayed the same as far as things that you launched in your skin care line?
Are they always evolving and changing?
Well, it's great question.
So double question number one, we launched really December of 2019, OK.
29:25
We launched as AB to B brand that basically the idea was only to set the practices, but I don't know if you know there was a little bug that was going around.
I heard about this.
Yeah, yeah.
Some people got sick anyway, so everything closed and we had the 1500 bottles that we actually bought back from clinics that closed and we had to pivot to AB to C company, basically direct to consumer company, huge learning curve.
29:53
We didn't know what we're doing.
We had a good product.
We had a few connections in the Durham world and we thought we're going to make it, but we were like, OK, what are we doing?
And no money because we basically bought back all the so that is how we started.
30:09
So the real when you met us, I think it was post pivot.
It was just a few months post pivot where we said we're going to have to educate people, maybe one by one, but we're going to have to educate people.
And then back then, nad wasn't no one knew what it is, right?
30:27
They think we spelled and wrong.
I don't know.
It was a very, very niche market.
It was very having the conversation.
Very, very.
And by the way, yeah, it's, it's crazy how it blew up, but it also gives give us a lot of confidence as far as other things that we believe in.
30:43
Likes for me, likes analytics like, you know, ergothionine that we're now excited about, which is the active ingredient in lion's mane mushroom, for example, or ectoin, which is a protein that structures water around proteins like collagen.
So we are now very confident to say, hey, we know this is going to be big, whatever that is, right?
31:03
Or exosomes, which we are heavily invested in researching.
So that's that.
And I think what stayed the same as the relationship between myself and Anastasia, my wife, we still do it together.
We love doing it together.
It is the best moments of our work when we get to do something together.
31:22
And another thing that is very uncommon as a company and actually it's kind of is innovation is pipeline is R&D is taking all the money that the company makes besides, you know, paying our bills, paying our employees and obviously marketing and stuff like that goes back to R and DA 100%.
31:42
If you go to my house, you don't think it's a, you know, 9 figure company.
You know, we have a little house in Del Rey that's basically nothing fancy.
We are obsessed with innovation and that didn't change.
31:59
Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful because we're at an event and you're talking to people and I want to let you get back to work.
I would love if you had a point to send people where do we go and learn about young Goose?
32:16
Where can they go to have a deeper dive?
And let's start with those two.
I'm going to save my last one.
OK, so younggoose.com, the website Instagram is very good.
Like Instagram is very informative.
It's young under score goose, under score skin care and the podcast is the deep dive.
32:33
It's a biohacking beauty podcast, really.
It is nerding out on, you know, whether you know how your body makes vitamin A for your skin and how can you mimic it to, I don't know why binaural beats are good for your overall health and your skin and you know, anything in between really.
32:51
Yeah, amazing, amazing.
Third question, if somebody was looking to really take skin care to the next level and they get to the website, would you as a new customer find yourself in a state of overwhelm or would you find it very easy?
OK, where do I start?
33:08
Good question.
That's a challenge with a company that is very nuanced and a lot of moving parts.
But the best thing to do is to it's a good question.
We're trying to simplify it all the time.
We have a questionnaire, very easy questionnaire because why?
Because there is a supplement company I was trying to get supplements from and the questionnaire took me 5 minutes.
33:27
That's a long time for a questionnaire, so maybe more anyway.
So very easy questionnaire, you know, what are you doing, what's your concern, stuff like that.
You get basically 3 systems recommended to you, very simple, medium, advanced.
Choose one of those.
33:43
Easy peasy.
Yeah, amazing.
Where would I start?
I don't use anything right?
Face wash, adaptogenic cleanser and Youth Daily moisturizer, which has all of the ingredients that we spoke about today.
The moisturizer and the face wash.
34:01
I take showers, man, but I gotta be.
I just very little.
I don't have hair.
I Yeah.
It's such a low maintenance game, right?
Now I.
Understand.
But I'm ready to step it up.
You know I'm gonna be 50 in three years.
It's crazy.
I know.
You look so good. 50 what?
But I do feel like an old man a little bit sometimes.
34:19
I me too.
I I I popped a rib without any contact the other day so.
I love it.
And while I got you on because I'm such a tech nerd, where are some technologies that you in this space that you just love?
34:35
And we mentioned red light, Yeah.
Metabolomic testing, I think it's the next best thing.
We've heavily invested in it.
Q1.
We're going to have the ability of practitioners to have you have a metabolomic panel and tell you what products your epigenetics need, OK.
34:52
And I think in general, it's not only us, the omics sciences are where it's at.
Yes, that's number one.
Obviously.
I think red light's going to be in every home in the end of the day.
Biological building, What's it called?
Like when, you know, eliminating EMF in the restroom and in a in a yeah, in the restroom, you can have EMF in the bedroom and things like that.
35:13
And I think that the prescription for community is going to be something the same way where, you know, 100 years ago, if people had like lung issues, they would send them to the beach.
35:29
They would go to live on the beach or at least visit the beach, which is not a obviously not an we're obsessed with molecules.
But there is something else, not only molecules, right?
I think you look at Blue Zones on Netflix, you look at any type of like pidemiological study and they all have these, you know, usually purple yams.
35:52
And I don't know what that's all BS.
In my opinion.
What is the common denominator there is having community is feeling important over time, feeling understood, loved, feeling that the rules that you play by are reciprocated.
36:07
And I believe this is at least 50% of longevity.
I.
Would go above 50 because you know, I'm so blessed to do something I love, I love.
But I will say part of the trade off is a lot of times I'm with a screen or I'm on a cell phone, I'm isolated.
36:28
And it's events like these, it's the dinners, you know, that we often get to go out.
I went out with six strangers yesterday.
I knew one person, you know, we just had a lovely time and just deeply listening on what people are going through, what they're experiencing.
And I just, I would join with you.
36:45
I think just top of my list is community.
And sometimes the tack can be very sterile that can pull us away.
It's like, well, I can have a whole biohacking studio in my home and just be alone.
And that's not really.
That's not magic.
By the way, in the same way as you know, ice baths which you have at home is is is uncomfortable to get into and we can talk about, you know, sauna, exercise, whatever.
37:11
These are things that your body, you know, whatever.
It's like the laws of physics for a body that is not in motion wants to stay not in motion still and body and motion wants to stay in motion.
The same thing applies once you when you're outside of it, when you're alone in your house, you actually don't wanna go out.
37:28
You don't wanna interact with people most sometimes, but you got to push yourself out of your comfort zone and then do it just like other health practices that are going to make you grow etcetera.
And I think technology a lot of times just makes it so easy to not do it.
37:45
There are so many other enticing alternatives.
I think for me, social media, if I really boiled it down, it is the alternative to community.
Like you go there to find a piece of connection.
I think podcast, like I think Joe Rogan is successful because he makes you feel like you're in the room.
38:04
Yeah, 100%.
And I hope people feel like that now, but that anyway.
So yeah.
I think they do.
I mean, listen, we get we have AI mean I love my audience.
People are so great.
I have a lot of real people that are really engaged.
You know, there's no bots out there.
People are saying this is amazing.
38:21
This sucks.
I can't believe you expect me to pay this price for this thing.
And you know it's very real.
So you know, I and I'm I'm aware, So I just listened to a panel.
You guys don't know this yet.
I was just listening to a panel on GLP ones.
We had we had a we had Cali means we had who we have we had a a reality TV host.
38:41
We had JJ virgin, we had A and it was wild.
It was like fight.
It was like a fight on stage.
It was very intense, lots of really powerful opinions.
Not a lot of listening, not a lot of deep listening, no joining with each other.
And I just sat back from the experience and it was so I could feel my adrenaline pumping in my body and I was engaged.
39:02
And that's what gets clicks on social media.
You didn't get a warm and fuzzy feeling.
You definitely didn't feel.
I didn't feel inspired, right?
I got talked at and above as opposed to I just think, my God, as we go into this election with this will come out after the election, who knows what happens, But this is the country, right?
39:23
We're like, it's like a coin flip.
Everybody hates everybody.
They're not willing to join anywhere.
And I, I just believe in my heart of hearts that if you got in front of someone, you did some deep listening.
I don't think we would hate each other as much as portrayed on social media.
39:38
I just don't believe it.
I'll tell you more than that.
You know, of course politics are difficult and are very dividing, but the impact on your life is I never heard anyone disliking someone because of their election for sheriff.
39:55
I don't know what, but that is significantly more impactful on your life than you know, who's president, you know what's going on in your community.
So it's funny that we have this extremely divided interpersonal communication right now, but it's really has nothing to do.
40:14
I mean the effect is just negative on our lives like the minute that you in inject.
Judgement and negative feelings to the environment because of someone's political opinions.
You might be thinking that you are serving some general good, but you're actually there is no benefit whatsoever into doing that.
40:36
So, and I think the reason people doing are doing it to begin with is actually to somehow they believe they serve some cause, but the cause is non existent.
The the king is not wearing any clothes.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And I think obviously I think it's redundancy, but it's important.
40:53
That is how the war on your attention is waged.
It is by triggering you and it is by brainwashing you to think that your opinion, first of all, that you're right.
But your opinion and the things that your opinion is about are the most important things.
41:12
And it is, it's kind of crazy, you know, someone would an alien would come in it, it would be very weird for them.
But in general, you, you inject bad juju, bad vibes into the environment.
You have made it worse.
41:27
You did not make it better, you know. 100% Well, let's close it up for now.
Again, I deeply appreciate you sitting down with me.
The time we'll do a long, we'll do, we'll do a deep dive because there's so much to talk about and we've never talked about skin care, not in 220 episodes.
41:46
I know again, I'm excited, but I also want to, I want to get on some young goose.
I want to do the Freddie taste test.
Whatever.
We'll we'll see how you know, great.
We can make me age as I approach 50.
I got 3 1/2 years and we'll do it again.
42:04
Sounds good.
If people go to the the website and they purchase, can we do a a code?
Yeah, let's do whatever you want it.
To be do we do beautifully broken.
Yeah.
All one word 'cause that's what you guys are used to.
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42:36
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42:53
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44:14
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44:32
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45:31
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45:48
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46:08
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46:27
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46:45
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47:11
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47:32
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47:49
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48:09
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